If Zayle is any indication, it's likely that they will just continue printing new Whizbang-style cards every so often.
It's a much more efficient way to achieve the same result.
Efficient is not a way I would describe such action.. It's by no means efficient if anything it's clunky what they should have done is to give every single new player whiz bang after a milestone "have all classes at level 20" or something similar, make the card part of a reward set which should be reintroduced idk why they removed the whole set( I know why they wanted to remove murkeye though).
And that's a really good move, you have a card that new players can experiment with once they got to know the classes and removed the need to print a card every year with the same effect.
The current owners of whizbang will get 1600 dust or 3200 once they complete said quests I would say a golden whizbang is given to players with all classes at level 60.
I mean that's the logical solution, but I know blizzard will not do that and will create a new one every year/2 years..
Moving Whizbang to Classic would mean having to update that card for as long as the game receives updates. Team 5 can barely muster up enough interest to do anything with Wild, why would they pore that much effort into a single card?
What? They literally have to do nothing to keep him up to date. He simply uses the deck recipes that are in the game since day one and are getting updated since the very first expansion
They needed a reasonable reward for the Dalaran Heist that is not influencing the meta by any means. Zayle was perfect for that. Locking a relevant card behind 2800 gold would be outrageous for players that have no interest in single player content.
I don‘t think he ever was intended as a Whizbang replacement. The timing would be totally stupid. Zayle has become irrelevant already and there are still almost 8 months before Whizbang rotates.
I doubt that Whizzbang is influenzing Blizzards profits aswell. He is available for allmost 2 full years. People won‘t start buying more packs next year just because Whizbang rotates.
And the guys, claiming that new players need no collection when they have whizzbang... you‘re joking right? He‘s a demo at best. Fun for a couple days but a 1/18 chance for your favorit deck sucks!
Impossible to predict what Blizzard will do. They never moved a card to classic, that makes it unlikely. But if any card ever had a chance, it‘s defintily Whizbang the wonderfull! New player experience is a hot topic for HS and this card is three steps inthe right direction.
What? They literally have to do nothing to keep him up to date. He simply uses the deck recipes that are in the game since day one and are getting updated since the very first expansion
If doesn't matter if they could, they are not going to. If they were going to, then why print Zayle, Shadow Cloak which effectively does the same but shuffles out of Standard on another year?
They want those cards to have a limited lifespan, it's part of their intended design.
It matters a great deal if that's the reason you presented for Blizzard not moving Whizzbang. If you want to change your argument now that it's been refuted, that's fine, but at least have the decency to acknowledge you were wrong before shifting those goalposts.
I won't be surprised if they print another version of Zayle with all the good guy classes as a reward for this expansion's adventure, as opposed to Zayle itself, which contains the classes that make the League of E.V.I.L.
But as for Whizbang, I agree that he should be moved to classic. He is evergreen, and uses deck recipes that exist in-game. I just don't know what's a good move for Blizzard in their perspective.
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As for Zayle, Shadow Cloak, he has a smaller amount of decks that were not provided by Whizbang the Wonderful. As I mentioned once before in this thread, if they move him and want to keep the same number of 23 legendary minions in the Boomsday Project set, they already accomplished this by introducing SN1P-SN4P. Seeing as SN1P is the only random legendary addition to a set (not counting recent Classic set additions to replace HoF cards), it really leads me to believe they put him in the game as a planned replacement come April 2020 when Whiz moves to Classic.
As far as the "it'll hurt their profits" argument, it will ALSO be great for new players if Whiz is made Classic (or maybe even the final Basic reward card for unlocking all cards on all classes?). And I've continually seen veteran players complain on sites like this how Blizzard caters to new Hearthstone players and doesn't care about long time players. So why wouldn't they make a change to always allow new players an easy option to play new Standard constructed decks without having a large collection? And ultimately, bringing in new players and keeping fringe players going by always giving them the Whizbang option should theoretically help get more profits in the long run. Larger player base = larger base of potential spenders.
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What? They literally have to do nothing to keep him up to date. He simply uses the deck recipes that are in the game since day one and are getting updated since the very first expansion
If doesn't matter if they could, they are not going to. If they were going to, then why print Zayle, Shadow Cloak which effectively does the same but shuffles out of Standard on another year?
They want those cards to have a limited lifespan, it's part of their intended design.
With the difference that Zayle uses decks specially designed for the card. Whizbang simply uses a random deck recipes, which, as I mentioned already, are updated with every expansion and sometimes inbetween anyway.
If they want a certain lifespan for a card it's possible it's gonna rotate, but to keep it active they literally have to do nothing but putting it in the classic set, without any work else as you said in your first post.
Most likely not. They introduced Zayle, Shadow Cloak in the first expansion of the year. They are probably trying to set some sort of trend to allow themselves to release these types of cards at least once a year.
If they were evergreened, that would basically mean fewer packs sales because players are getting free, okayish decks to play with
Well it would be kinda cool if they would add him to classic but i think this will not happen. I guess it is more likely that they will print other cards with the same or similiar effect like they did with Zayle !
Is there a way to close a thread? I started this one over 2 months ago, and I'm very pleased with the discussion it generated. At this point, people are just repeating what others have already said, sometimes several times over. I think folks ought to read through the whole thread before posting, but in this case, can we just shut it down? There won't be anything new to say until Blizzard announces any change to Whizbang, if they ever do.
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Is there a way to close a thread? I started this one over 2 months ago, and I'm very pleased with the discussion it generated. At this point, people are just repeating what others have already said, sometimes several times over. I think folks ought to read through the whole thread before posting, but in this case, can we just shut it down? There won't be anything new to say until Blizzard announces any change to Whizbang, if they ever do.
True, but the forums are not having high enough traffic or anything I don't see anything wrong if some people have debates or anything important to say..
Is there a way to close a thread? I started this one over 2 months ago, and I'm very pleased with the discussion it generated. At this point, people are just repeating what others have already said, sometimes several times over. I think folks ought to read through the whole thread before posting, but in this case, can we just shut it down? There won't be anything new to say until Blizzard announces any change to Whizbang, if they ever do.
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You joke, but they've already done this by printin Zalye shadow cloak, so I think it's safe to assume they won't make him evergreen
Efficient is not a way I would describe such action.. It's by no means efficient if anything it's clunky what they should have done is to give every single new player whiz bang after a milestone "have all classes at level 20" or something similar, make the card part of a reward set which should be reintroduced idk why they removed the whole set( I know why they wanted to remove murkeye though).
And that's a really good move, you have a card that new players can experiment with once they got to know the classes and removed the need to print a card every year with the same effect.
The current owners of whizbang will get 1600 dust or 3200 once they complete said quests I would say a golden whizbang is given to players with all classes at level 60.
I mean that's the logical solution, but I know blizzard will not do that and will create a new one every year/2 years..
What? They literally have to do nothing to keep him up to date. He simply uses the deck recipes that are in the game since day one and are getting updated since the very first expansion
They needed a reasonable reward for the Dalaran Heist that is not influencing the meta by any means. Zayle was perfect for that. Locking a relevant card behind 2800 gold would be outrageous for players that have no interest in single player content.
I don‘t think he ever was intended as a Whizbang replacement. The timing would be totally stupid. Zayle has become irrelevant already and there are still almost 8 months before Whizbang rotates.
I doubt that Whizzbang is influenzing Blizzards profits aswell. He is available for allmost 2 full years. People won‘t start buying more packs next year just because Whizbang rotates.
And the guys, claiming that new players need no collection when they have whizzbang... you‘re joking right? He‘s a demo at best. Fun for a couple days but a 1/18 chance for your favorit deck sucks!
Impossible to predict what Blizzard will do. They never moved a card to classic, that makes it unlikely. But if any card ever had a chance, it‘s defintily Whizbang the wonderfull! New player experience is a hot topic for HS and this card is three steps inthe right direction.
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It matters a great deal if that's the reason you presented for Blizzard not moving Whizzbang. If you want to change your argument now that it's been refuted, that's fine, but at least have the decency to acknowledge you were wrong before shifting those goalposts.
I won't be surprised if they print another version of Zayle with all the good guy classes as a reward for this expansion's adventure, as opposed to Zayle itself, which contains the classes that make the League of E.V.I.L.
But as for Whizbang, I agree that he should be moved to classic. He is evergreen, and uses deck recipes that exist in-game. I just don't know what's a good move for Blizzard in their perspective.
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As for Zayle, Shadow Cloak, he has a smaller amount of decks that were not provided by Whizbang the Wonderful. As I mentioned once before in this thread, if they move him and want to keep the same number of 23 legendary minions in the Boomsday Project set, they already accomplished this by introducing SN1P-SN4P. Seeing as SN1P is the only random legendary addition to a set (not counting recent Classic set additions to replace HoF cards), it really leads me to believe they put him in the game as a planned replacement come April 2020 when Whiz moves to Classic.
As far as the "it'll hurt their profits" argument, it will ALSO be great for new players if Whiz is made Classic (or maybe even the final Basic reward card for unlocking all cards on all classes?). And I've continually seen veteran players complain on sites like this how Blizzard caters to new Hearthstone players and doesn't care about long time players. So why wouldn't they make a change to always allow new players an easy option to play new Standard constructed decks without having a large collection? And ultimately, bringing in new players and keeping fringe players going by always giving them the Whizbang option should theoretically help get more profits in the long run. Larger player base = larger base of potential spenders.
Quick! Someone give me something clever to write here.
With the difference that Zayle uses decks specially designed for the card. Whizbang simply uses a random deck recipes, which, as I mentioned already, are updated with every expansion and sometimes inbetween anyway.
If they want a certain lifespan for a card it's possible it's gonna rotate, but to keep it active they literally have to do nothing but putting it in the classic set, without any work else as you said in your first post.
Most likely not. They introduced Zayle, Shadow Cloak in the first expansion of the year. They are probably trying to set some sort of trend to allow themselves to release these types of cards at least once a year.
If they were evergreened, that would basically mean fewer packs sales because players are getting free, okayish decks to play with
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Well it would be kinda cool if they would add him to classic but i think this will not happen. I guess it is more likely that they will print other cards with the same or similiar effect like they did with Zayle !
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Is there a way to close a thread? I started this one over 2 months ago, and I'm very pleased with the discussion it generated. At this point, people are just repeating what others have already said, sometimes several times over. I think folks ought to read through the whole thread before posting, but in this case, can we just shut it down? There won't be anything new to say until Blizzard announces any change to Whizbang, if they ever do.
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True, but the forums are not having high enough traffic or anything I don't see anything wrong if some people have debates or anything important to say..
My reason might be totally selfish then. Since I'm the one who started the thread, I get notifications every time someone posts to it.
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