The next xpac looks amazing to me, and the patch looks like it'll add or fix a nice amount of stuff, but, but why the card art changes? Are these responses to some people complaining about succubus card images or something? They are a legit and essential warlock pet in WoW lore. I'll bet the other ones involved removing blood or something as well. I guess that's ok, but I don't see anything wrong with the way they were before either. If any art is going to get changed, it should be for those early cards like Gruul that have art of the wrong character on them in the first place.
I suspect it was to comply with (ridiculous) censorship in China. It's a bit annoying because I really liked my golden Headcrack and Bite, but now their animations are mediocre at best.
Why should we have to abide under the rules of China? I refuse to bow to them as Hearthstone overlords, lol. I guess it would be hard to manage two sets or art for different countries, but I'm sure it could be done. At least we'll have records of the art in books and sites like this.
I half-understand changing the oversexualized female characters (although I don't think anyone was offended by this), but removing the blood is a bit strange.
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Four cards changed for Boobs, four cards changed for Blood.
I think the new art is better than the old art (with the exception of Headcrack... and Eviscerate, obviously). If they want/need to be PG, they can be PG. I don't play card games for the sexy men and women.
I wouldn't even say they were oversexualized, given the purpose of a succubus, it's just the right amount of "sexualized". I never even noticed it on the harpy or secretkeeper, although I'll admit that their new art does fill the space better from a composition standpoint. I don't know about anyone else, but none of these ever aroused me in the slightest. It's not really any worse than a lot of people choose to wear in real life anyway.
They literally removed Succubus as a card and replace it with a random demon. LMAO
And Headcrack looks like hot garbage now. Come on, Blizzard
Felstalker is the same card as Succubus, but with "less offensive art" (?) At least until someone starts finding Felstalkers sexual! And the Felstalker pet for Warlocks in WoW is a pretty classic thing related to that class. Similar to Voidwalker.
With that in mind, I get why they changed it to Felstalker, but I'm still a little unsure of why it had to be changed so much instead of just updating the card art. Also, I'm confused by Mistress of Pain being changed to Queen of Pain. Is "mistress" a bad word in some parts of the world?
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I can understand the changes. What im confused about is how they pick these cards to be changed. I guess cause they are from bacis/classic sets? Cause there is waaaaaaaaay more suggestive card art out there, some hell of a lot more revealing. For example Silver Hand Regent :o
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They literally removed Succubus as a card and replace it with a random demon. LMAO
And Headcrack looks like hot garbage now. Come on, Blizzard
Felstalker is the same card as Succubus, but with "less offensive art" (?) At least until someone starts finding Felstalkers sexual! And the Felstalker pet for Warlocks in WoW is a pretty classic thing related to that class. Similar to Voidwalker.
With that in mind, I get why they changed it to Felstalker, but I'm still a little unsure of why it had to be changed so much instead of just updating the card art. Also, I'm confused by Mistress of Pain being changed to Queen of Pain. Is "mistress" a bad word in some parts of the world?
From what I understand, "mistress" sounds a bit too "BDSM-ish", although I thought that was supposed to be the point. You know, with the whip and everything?
Hilariously, now that they changed the name, they will need to change the flavor text as well, because it made a joke relating to the name.
I agree that, while understanding the reason behind those changes, they're removing a bit of flavor from the game itself. [Hearthstone Card (Succubus) Not Found] was not only a Warcraft-themed minion but a common demonic creature spread across all media: the first incarnation of a sexy winged girl as a succubus was introduced for the first time within Castlevania - Symphony of the Night (1997) and then it has become pretty canon as concept.
Pretty sad that they've decided not only for a censorship but for a total rework of the card, imho.
At last the majority of those new artworks are better than the old ones.
"For what profit is it to a man if he gains the world, and loses his own soul?"
The new art looks better, I don't think anybody but the sensible governments that are offended by everything cared about those themes being present..
I hope we will see more art updates just cause some cards could use them rather than because of some regulations from some crybabies that hate blood and boobs.
I'm guessing this is Blizzard complying with chinese censorship. What I find fascinating though is how this bowdlerisation of art, at least when it comes to "sexualisation" totally falls in line with emerging western puritanism.
Not a single person was ever harmed by sexy pixels in a video game. To any reasonable person this should be no less ridiculous than "D&D causes satanism" or the idea that uncensored Headcrack art leads to violence.
The next xpac looks amazing to me, and the patch looks like it'll add or fix a nice amount of stuff, but, but why the card art changes? Are these responses to some people complaining about succubus card images or something? They are a legit and essential warlock pet in WoW lore. I'll bet the other ones involved removing blood or something as well. I guess that's ok, but I don't see anything wrong with the way they were before either. If any art is going to get changed, it should be for those early cards like Gruul that have art of the wrong character on them in the first place.
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I suspect it was to comply with (ridiculous) censorship in China. It's a bit annoying because I really liked my golden Headcrack and Bite, but now their animations are mediocre at best.
Yeah, they ruined Secretkeeper, unfortunately. First Jaina, now this. RIP
They literally removed [Hearthstone Card (Succubus) Not Found] as a card and replace it with a random demon. LMAO
And Headcrack looks like hot garbage now. Come on, Blizzard
Why should we have to abide under the rules of China? I refuse to bow to them as Hearthstone overlords, lol. I guess it would be hard to manage two sets or art for different countries, but I'm sure it could be done. At least we'll have records of the art in books and sites like this.
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Whole thing for reference, stolen from Reddit.
I half-understand changing the oversexualized female characters (although I don't think anyone was offended by this), but removing the blood is a bit strange.
Four cards changed for Boobs, four cards changed for Blood.
I think the new art is better than the old art (with the exception of Headcrack... and Eviscerate, obviously). If they want/need to be PG, they can be PG. I don't play card games for the sexy men and women.
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The bright side is that most of thenew artworks are actually better than the old ones.
I wouldn't even say they were oversexualized, given the purpose of a succubus, it's just the right amount of "sexualized". I never even noticed it on the harpy or secretkeeper, although I'll admit that their new art does fill the space better from a composition standpoint. I don't know about anyone else, but none of these ever aroused me in the slightest. It's not really any worse than a lot of people choose to wear in real life anyway.
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They changed Jaina because she was showing too much cleavage?
The new secret keeper is showing loads of cleavage. Just as much as Jaina surely?
Felstalker is the same card as Succubus, but with "less offensive art" (?) At least until someone starts finding Felstalkers sexual! And the Felstalker pet for Warlocks in WoW is a pretty classic thing related to that class. Similar to Voidwalker.
With that in mind, I get why they changed it to Felstalker, but I'm still a little unsure of why it had to be changed so much instead of just updating the card art. Also, I'm confused by Mistress of Pain being changed to Queen of Pain. Is "mistress" a bad word in some parts of the world?
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I like the newer art More.
Although I will miss the old one.
I'd love to have a choice for cosmetic same as alternative hero .
alternative cards art .
I can understand the changes. What im confused about is how they pick these cards to be changed. I guess cause they are from bacis/classic sets? Cause there is waaaaaaaaay more suggestive card art out there, some hell of a lot more revealing. For example Silver Hand Regent :o
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From what I understand, "mistress" sounds a bit too "BDSM-ish", although I thought that was supposed to be the point. You know, with the whip and everything?
Hilariously, now that they changed the name, they will need to change the flavor text as well, because it made a joke relating to the name.
I agree that, while understanding the reason behind those changes, they're removing a bit of flavor from the game itself. [Hearthstone Card (Succubus) Not Found] was not only a Warcraft-themed minion but a common demonic creature spread across all media: the first incarnation of a sexy winged girl as a succubus was introduced for the first time within Castlevania - Symphony of the Night (1997) and then it has become pretty canon as concept.
Pretty sad that they've decided not only for a censorship but for a total rework of the card, imho.
At last the majority of those new artworks are better than the old ones.
"For what profit is it to a man if he gains the world, and loses his own soul?"
“You’re in trouble now”
the irony
The new art looks better, I don't think anybody but the sensible governments that are offended by everything cared about those themes being present..
I hope we will see more art updates just cause some cards could use them rather than because of some regulations from some crybabies that hate blood and boobs.
I'm guessing this is Blizzard complying with chinese censorship. What I find fascinating though is how this bowdlerisation of art, at least when it comes to "sexualisation" totally falls in line with emerging western puritanism.
Not a single person was ever harmed by sexy pixels in a video game. To any reasonable person this should be no less ridiculous than "D&D causes satanism" or the idea that uncensored Headcrack art leads to violence.
Don't like any of the changes, specially bite, and I will really miss Sucubuss. How long before Kor'kron Elite and Whirlwind change too?
For anyone wondering, the also change the voice lines.
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