New Rogue Minion - Vanessa VanCleef

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A new Legendary Rogue Minion, Vanessa VanCleef, has been revealed!

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Robot Black Lotus 1265 5754 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    A new Legendary Rogue Minion, Vanessa VanCleef, has been revealed!

    Vanessa VanCleef Card Image

    Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!


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  • iAardvark's Avatar
    Swamp 130 10 Posts Joined 01/18/2021
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    I’ll have to see the rest of the set before making my decision on this card. Seems interesting, though

    I think everybody’s nuts.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    This is a very interesting direction for the burgle mechanic. Before the game, this will effectively be giving you a random card, but during the game you will always know what this will give you before you play it. I think this will be a lot of fun for the rogue players.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • darkjak's Avatar
    Shadow Rager 860 1147 Posts Joined 07/06/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    This is will a great tool against secrets.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5610 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    Well, that's basically confirming rogue's legendary, and a fitting one too.

    It has good applications, but I'm afraid its always going to be on the fringes. Its just simply not possible for a card to see inclusion into a deck that only sometimes do good stuff. But if shadowstep makes the cut in standard then that would explain why this card is on first sight sems so underwhelming.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    I like it. Very interesting and flavourful. But i guess it`s not gonna see that much play because it is not that consistent. 

    Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    Ayyy, she's finally here.

     

    I like the non-random burgling effect and it's about time it became part of Rogue's core gameplay. At 2-mana this is flexible enough to be used in multiple situations.

    Just take for instance your opponent goes first and plays their 1-drop of choice. YOu can coin this and get a combo activator for later or something similar.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    I really like her effect, it's a nice spin on Burgle Rogue and she has premium 2 drop stats. Glad to see that Vanessa VanCleef replaces her dad Edwin VanCleef in standard, but i also still hope they bring back Tess Greymane in the core set. :)

    Vanessa VanCleef will probably see play in combo/burgle rogue decks and maybe midrange/control or combo rogue decks that would love to copy an opponents board clear. Vanessa VanCleef seems really flexible and i like it.

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • ShareYourThoughts's Avatar
    100 3 Posts Joined 08/01/2020
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    It Seems much more a Priest card

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  • Synnr7's Avatar
    Winter Whisperer 1050 648 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    What a great card effect. Burgle always had the downside of possibly getting something unusable when they stole from an opponent. This makes the enemy have to rethink the order they play stuff in just to not get killed by their own fireball or charge minion the next turn. 

    Such an interesting card who's skillful use can swing games. fantastic design.

    Casual Dragon Cardgame enthusiast. 

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  • UVE's Avatar
    1180 832 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    If you survive after the enemy plays C'Thun, the Shattered, that card will give you a Trolden fuel. :D

    By The Holy Light!

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  • Zyella's Avatar
    Valeera 590 586 Posts Joined 10/16/2020
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From FieselFitz

    I like it. Very interesting and flavourful. But i guess it`s not gonna see that much play because it is not that consistent. 

    Imo its nto flavourfull. Not for Vanessa. 

    She is master of poisons and toxcins.

     

    This wouldve fit more on a different rogue character thats more about stealing or spying.

    even somethign like  Battlecry: add a deady poison to your hand would be more fitting for vanessa.

     

    I do like the card, just doesnt fit vanessa.

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  • PLANETCRUNCH's Avatar
    E.V.I.L. Dragon 820 1248 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    This is an interesting card, not only does it add to Rogue's burgle identity, but it makes the player put some thought in before playing her, as their opponent may have played a weak card on purpose. 

    Her cost is great for shadowstep, too (IF that makes it into the core set) allowing for potential 2 powerful cards your opponent played last turn.

     

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  • Caro's Avatar
    Draconic Rager 2225 2544 Posts Joined 03/12/2020
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    Love the flavour and the effect, definitely a go to substitute card for your rogue deck if you missing other legendaries 

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  • aposteljoe's Avatar
    COMMENT_COUNT_600_HS 1170 644 Posts Joined 06/18/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    What would have been nice, would be if she gave you one of 5 possible poison cards. One that gives your next attack poisonous, freeze, lifesteal etc.

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  • Ilphelkiir's Avatar
    550 254 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From ShareYourThoughts

    It Seems much more a Priest card

    I mean [Hearthstone Card (Murozond, the Infinite) Not Found] exists. There are a handful of similarities between the two. People wouldn't complain too much if this were a priest card (obviously with combo replaced).

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  • Zyella's Avatar
    Valeera 590 586 Posts Joined 10/16/2020
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From aposteljoe

    What would have been nice, would be if she gave you one of 5 possible poison cards. One that gives your next attack poisonous, freeze, lifesteal etc.

    Or the toxcins from xaril the poisoned mind (1mana draw 1, deal 2, return friendly minion to hand give +3 attack and give a riednly minion stealth)

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2285 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 10 months ago

    This looks like a very useful card: a burgle type effect that you have a bit more control over. In wild with cards like Spirit of the Shark it can do a lot. In standard, we'll need to wait and see how many bounce effects remain, and how good they are.

    "Be excellent to each other." -Bill and Ted

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 830 1229 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    I love this kind of cards, would like to see a similar effect but with battlecries.

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  • Hydrafrog's Avatar
    Gul'dan 1840 3268 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    This just seems really lackluster.  I know that this card cannot compare in power to edwin, but JUST the last card when Plagiarize does the whole turn?  

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  • sinti's Avatar
    Senior Writer Chocolate Cake 2070 2792 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    I think ppl might be grossly underestimating this card. It might force your opponnent into suboptimal plays, 'wasting' a card to deny something they played prior etc. Or you can simply get a huge banger your opponnent just played. Hero cards, stuff like Ticktacus, Old Gods you name it. Just its existance will make opponnent question their play vs Rogue. 

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  • Spotiker's Avatar
    140 8 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago

    should read - discover a copy of card your opponent played last turn.

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