New Hunter Weapon - Desert Spear

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A new Common Hunter Weapon, Desert Spear, has been revealed!

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Robot Black Lotus 1265 5754 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago

    A new Common Hunter Weapon, Desert Spear, has been revealed!

    Desert Spear Card Image

    Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!


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  • RandomGuy's Avatar
    430 614 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago

    This seems like the first whiff from hunter this set. I assume the locust is a beast (I can't find it for sure), (it is a beast) but I don't think it matters. This card costs 1 too many mana.

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  • kaladin's Avatar
    365 396 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago

    Wow that's........pretty weak.  

     

    • competes with existing 3-drops
    • competes with an existing 3-drop weapon that is arguably better
    • weak stats for a weapon
    • "summon a 1/1 with rush" is outvalued by Springpaw
    • control hunter is not a thing

    Going to need a ton of support to make this worth a card slot. 

    worst community ever

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  • reallypowerfulwizard's Avatar
    105 12 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago

    Because the beast has rush, it's essentially a 3 mana 2/3 weapon with some beast synergy. Stormforged Axe is probably the closest comparison, which hasn't seen play, so... probably same with this?

    Really solid arena card though.

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  • AliRadicali's Avatar
    465 713 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago

    I too enjoy spearing desserts.

     

    In seriousness though, this seems overcosted. The effect has obvious synergies with Hyenas and Timber Wolves but that's not enough to warrant playing the spear over Headhunter's Hatchet, which effectively does the same amount of damage for 1 mana less.

    Piranha Launcher 2.0: Slightly improved, still bad.

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  • kaladin's Avatar
    365 396 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From AliRadicali

    I too enjoy spearing desserts.

     

    In seriousness though, this seems overcosted. The effect has obvious synergies with Hyenas and Timber Wolves but that's not enough to warrant playing the spear over Headhunter's Hatchet, which effectively does the same amount of damage for 1 mana less.

    Piranha Launcher 2.0: Slightly improved, still bad.

    I guess ask yourself which is better, Scavenging Hyena + immediately buff it by +4/+2 or better?  OR, for the same mana cost, buff it by +2/+1 this turn, and then +2/+1 next turn (assuming both the Hyena and your weapon are still around)?

    And then you answer, "Scavenging Hyena + Hounds is objectively better in every way."

    worst community ever

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  • AliRadicali's Avatar
    465 713 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From kaladin
    Quote From AliRadicali

    I too enjoy spearing desserts.

     

    In seriousness though, this seems overcosted. The effect has obvious synergies with Hyenas and Timber Wolves but that's not enough to warrant playing the spear over Headhunter's Hatchet, which effectively does the same amount of damage for 1 mana less.

    Piranha Launcher 2.0: Slightly improved, still bad.

    I guess ask yourself which is better, Scavenging Hyena + immediately buff it by +4/+2 or better?  OR, for the same mana cost, buff it by +2/+1 this turn, and then +2/+1 next turn (assuming both the Hyena and your weapon are still around)?

    And then you answer, "Scavenging Hyena + Hounds is objectively better in every way."

    That's a false dichotomy. You could include both in your deck. If it cost one less Beast hunters would instantly cut their hatchets for this so they could run it alongside 'hounds and springpaws.

     

    Even if we set aside the false binary your analysis is still skewed. Hounds is situational: it requires enemy minions on board. The weapon can be played proactively, so you don't have to wait for the ideal Hyena turn to use it, and it comes down earlier. Does that make Desert Spear better than Unleash the Hounds? No, and if you'd left it at that it would have been fine, but instead you're fallaciously arguing that Hounds is objectively better in every way, and that's just silly and hyperbolic.

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  • Kovachut's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 675 756 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago

    The weapon reminds me of Piranha Launcher in the sence of both being understatted and summon beasts to compensate for latter thing. Now, granted, the new weapon is better than the MSOG one, but I agree with Kaladin and everyone else, that the spear is very underwhelming in general and there are other, more attractive competitors for the 3-mana slot.

    Right now I'm just thinking how this makes Hunter's Pack a bit worse.

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  • kaladin's Avatar
    365 396 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago

    I don't want to run a bad 3-drop weapon in Hunter.  Not alongside other really good 3-drops.  What are you going to cut in order to make space for this? 

    worst community ever

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  • Chimera's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 685 680 Posts Joined 10/22/2018
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago

    I think this will only be worth playing if you can get a lot of value from the best tokens.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From Chimera

    I think this will only be worth playing if you can get a lot of value from the best tokens.

    Exactly, the tokens might have enough value for this to be good, pirahana launcher had a niche sometimes this is so much better but all the comments thrash it

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  • RavenSunHS's Avatar
    Refreshment Vendor 880 1487 Posts Joined 03/27/2019
    Posted 5 years, 4 months ago

    This thing is bad statted, but it has the perk of shining against Reborn/Token, which is likely to be a thing in the incoming meta (sticky minions are always powerful).

    Put it in a Beast Hunter, and what you get is a solid anti-meta card in an already solid archetype.

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