SoU - Quest Druid with 2 win Conditions

Submitted 4 years, 7 months ago by

Edit: I updated the list  !

I took out Chef Nomi and Tending Tauren.

Put in a second Nourish and im trying a Dreampetal Florist because we go the Maly Route now :) 

Edit: Updated the list a little bit! 

I took out the Dreampetal Florist because so far it was not needed nor performing good for me - and i put in a King Phaoris - let's see how it goes!

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Hi there

I wanted to try my Own Quest Druid build :

 

Right now there are 2 win cons - Malygos and Chef Nomi - you either shoot your Opponent down using Maly and Moonfires (or swipe) normal or with duplicates or you draw your Deck and try to win with Chef Nomi! If you played Elise at the right time you can Slam Nomi down twice :)

I also thought about including more Heavy Spells and King Phaoris but that seemed way to inconsistent. Well right now the list is not even that consistant. It´s doing decent and so far i'm standing 5-3.

I do not have Cards like Wardruid Loti or Cenarius - that's why they are not in there :)

 

What do you Guys think? should i focus on only one Win Condition or could this deck work ?

  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    Edit: I updated the list  !

    I took out Chef Nomi and Tending Tauren.

    Put in a second Nourish and im trying a Dreampetal Florist because we go the Maly Route now :) 

    Edit: Updated the list a little bit! 

    I took out the Dreampetal Florist because so far it was not needed nor performing good for me - and i put in a King Phaoris - let's see how it goes!

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    Hi there

    I wanted to try my Own Quest Druid build :

     

    Right now there are 2 win cons - Malygos and Chef Nomi - you either shoot your Opponent down using Maly and Moonfires (or swipe) normal or with duplicates or you draw your Deck and try to win with Chef Nomi! If you played Elise at the right time you can Slam Nomi down twice :)

    I also thought about including more Heavy Spells and King Phaoris but that seemed way to inconsistent. Well right now the list is not even that consistant. It´s doing decent and so far i'm standing 5-3.

    I do not have Cards like Wardruid Loti or Cenarius - that's why they are not in there :)

     

    What do you Guys think? should i focus on only one Win Condition or could this deck work ?

    Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!

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  • RavenSunHS's Avatar
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    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    I doubt you have enough card draw to reliably unleash Chef Nomi and Elise the Enlightened. Not before being already dead.

    You can hope to survive Aggro by running them out of steam, but i hardly see you actually winning with your own winconditions.

    I think you should go harder down the draw/combo path. At the moment, your deck is neither Control nor Combo.

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  • UVE's Avatar
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    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    I can't see a reason to add Elise the Enlightened unless you wanna play two Chef Nomi.

     

    A second Nourish could help you to draw Malygos and empty your deck for Nomi. :)

    By The Holy Light!

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From RavenSunHS

    I doubt you have enough card draw to reliably unleash Chef Nomi and Elise the Enlightened. Not before being already dead.

    You can hope to survive Aggro by running them out of steam, but i hardly see you actually winning with your own winconditions.

    I think you should go harder down the draw/combo path. At the moment, your deck is neither Control nor Combo.

    Well i had some games against aggro were i stabilized on turn 5/6 (after finishing quest) with Hidden Oasis and Oasis Surger but sure if i face aggro and he has a strong opening it´s very hard to stabilize or even turn the game. 

    I will cut Nomi because most of the Games i won i finished with Malygos into Moonfires :) - so far i'm 7-4 and 6 of those wins were with Maly into Moonfires :) 

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From UVE

    I can't see a reason to add Elise the Enlightened unless you wanna play two Chef Nomi.

     

    A second Nourish could help you to draw Malygos and empty your deck for Nomi. :)

    Elise is mostly in there to Copy the Moonfires - Nomi was not needed so far so i guess i will cut him for a second Nourish

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  • RandomGuy's Avatar
    430 614 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    You're trying to do too much here. And they don't work together, IMO.

    If your ending the game with Maly, you don't need Nomi.

    Nourish is the best or second best card in the deck and you definitely need to play 2x.
    Tending Tauren seems really out of place here. I presume you're playing him b/c you don't have Cenarius. He's not a substitute. Just don't play him.
    Likewise, Mark of the Loa is weird here. Tauren and Mark are for token based Quest decks, which this is not.
    Stalladris hasn't impressed me.
    If you're ultimately going the Maly route, you probably need dreampetal florist.

    With all of that out of the way - I'm not yet convinced that Quest Druid needs a combo finisher now. We'll have to see where Warrior goes from here, but yesterday, at least was primarily aggro warrior. More honest quest decks might be the way to go for now. FWIW, King Phaoris is a beast in those.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From RandomGuy

    You're trying to do too much here. And they don't work together, IMO.

    If your ending the game with Maly, you don't need Nomi.

    Nourish is the best or second best card in the deck and you definitely need to play 2x.
    Tending Tauren seems really out of place here. I presume you're playing him b/c you don't have Cenarius. He's not a substitute. Just don't play him.
    Likewise, Mark of the Loa is weird here. Tauren and Mark are for token based Quest decks, which this is not.
    Stalladris hasn't impressed me.
    If you're ultimately going the Maly route, you probably need dreampetal florist.

    With all of that out of the way - I'm not yet convinced that Quest Druid needs a combo finisher now. We'll have to see where Warrior goes from here, but yesterday, at least was primarily aggro warrior. More honest quest decks might be the way to go for now. FWIW, King Phaoris is a beast in those.

    Yes i will cut Nomi because like i said most of the Games get finished with Maly - therefor will cut Nomi for a second Nourish.

    Kinda yes , i put Tending Tauren in for some pressure on the Board and because i do not have Cenarius :) 

    Mark of the Loa is kinda like the Tauren - to contest the Board - Keeper Stalladris worked good for me so far , because if i play him early on the Spotlight from the Enemy is allways on him and if he does not have something to clear he can help you with early wraths for example. 

    I will try Dreampetal Florist but so far he was not needed :) :)

    any suggestions for a replacement of the Tauren or Mark of the Loa ? (or both) 

     

    And i thought about Phaoris - but i wasn't sure if he would be good - mabye i'll try him.

    Thanks for the Input

     

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  • RandomGuy's Avatar
    430 614 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    I'm not 100% this is the way to go, but it's how I've been playing the deck the last week. Instead of adding Choose One cards that don't really fit what I'm doing, I've been playing Worthy Expedition. If I could play 3x Nourish, 2x Loti, 2x Cenarius, etc. in this deck, I would.

    Unless I'm playing a token version, Tauren, Mark, and Power of the Wild don't do much for me. With Expedition, I at least get a shot at the cards I actually want in the deck.

    I also noticed you aren't playing Innervate, and I'm being increasingly convinced that it's core to the deck. There are obvious uses with the quest when you aren't on coin, but it has some fun tricks later in the game as well. In your early quest completion phase, you can toss the Innervate out as a way to continue quest completion, while still removing something with BEEES!!!! or Swipe. In the mid/late game, you can fill out your curve and then toss out Innervate to still draw with your Crystal Merchant.

    Though, admittedly it really sucks to draw a dead innervate after quest completition.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From RandomGuy

    I'm not 100% this is the way to go, but it's how I've been playing the deck the last week. Instead of adding Choose One cards that don't really fit what I'm doing, I've been playing Worthy Expedition. If I could play 3x Nourish, 2x Loti, 2x Cenarius, etc. in this deck, I would.

    Unless I'm playing a token version, Tauren, Mark, and Power of the Wild don't do much for me. With Expedition, I at least get a shot at the cards I actually want in the deck.

    I also noticed you aren't playing Innervate, and I'm being increasingly convinced that it's core to the deck. There are obvious uses with the quest when you aren't on coin, but it has some fun tricks later in the game as well. In your early quest completion phase, you can toss the Innervate out as a way to continue quest completion, while still removing something with BEEES!!!! or Swipe. In the mid/late game, you can fill out your curve and then toss out Innervate to still draw with your Crystal Merchant.

    Though, admittedly it really sucks to draw a dead innervate after quest completition.

    I realy thought about putting in Innervate but was not sure - maybe because if i would draw them late they would suck ... maybe i'll try them and see how they perform. 

     

     

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  • RandomGuy's Avatar
    430 614 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    FWIW this is what I've played since the nerfs.

    I added the Siamat today because that last open slot could be basically anything. I've seen a bunch of people playing something else there. Siamat is kind of like a 3rd copy of Oasis Surger. Or on an empty field with windfury becomes very scary with Cenarius

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From RandomGuy

    FWIW this is what I've played since the nerfs.

     

     

    I added the Siamat today because that last open slot could be basically anything. I've seen a bunch of people playing something else there. Siamat is kind of like a 3rd copy of Oasis Surger. Or on an empty field with windfury becomes very scary with Cenarius

    Looks pretty decent but i do not have Cenarius or Wardruid Loti so i would have to change it a bit - and i`m also not sure about King Phaoris - i will defenitely try him because i have seen him in a lot of lists, but shouldn't i put more Heavy Spells in for Phaoris? Like Overflow for example?

    I updated the List and took out the Florist in Favour of King Phaoris.

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  • RandomGuy's Avatar
    430 614 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    VS likes Overflow, but I have not. At least not in these more midrange-y lists. Perhaps I'll add it back in if I go back to being all in on Nomi if control warrior is still popular (it doesn't seem to be at the moment).

    Phaoris has really performed well for me, but it was only 1 day of testing. He's one of the few ways to proactively apply pressure if you aren't running the token Taurens and the like. You're usually summoning 2 or 3 six drops with him plus a few odds and ends. Obviously, the drops you get vary wildly, but it demands an answer because a Cenarius follow up would be game ending.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From RandomGuy

    VS likes Overflow, but I have not. At least not in these more midrange-y lists. Perhaps I'll add it back in if I go back to being all in on Nomi if control warrior is still popular (it doesn't seem to be at the moment).

    Phaoris has really performed well for me, but it was only 1 day of testing. He's one of the few ways to proactively apply pressure if you aren't running the token Taurens and the like. You're usually summoning 2 or 3 six drops with him plus a few odds and ends. Obviously, the drops you get vary wildly, but it demands an answer because a Cenarius follow up would be game ending.

    Ok for now i will play without Overflow and see how it goes with Phaoris! even tough the only way i could follow up with a Cenarius is if i Discover him from a card, but my opponent does not know that :) 

    Thanks for the input! 

    Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!

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