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Hot Decks in OOC

Submitted 5 years, 3 months ago by

Our website is generally populated by a community that tends to prefer and give upvotes to what is off-meta, or meme, and/or with funny description/story. That's ok ofc.

But the result in the Hot Decks boxes of the front page is often that a hot deck could be either a meme, or a candidate meta-breaker (more often the former), without the user being able to discern, before actually opening the deck page.

And imo, the fact we display memes or Casual decks as Hot Decks makes us look as weirdos to a generic new user trying to find a place to improve their Ranked performances with the game.

So my idea is, what about 4 Hot Decks boxes? One for Standard Ranked, one for Wild Ranked, one for Standard Just for Fun, one for Wild Just for Fun.

ALTERNATIVELY, the 'Just for Fun' could all be merged together in a unique box, Standard and Wild.

With 'Just for Fun' as the default option when an author publishes a new deck.

At that point, deck authors should be compelled (maybe with a warning that clarifies that, if they try to select it) to define their deck as 'Ranked' ONLY IF they can provide the description of some decent performances in Ladder. And it'd be pretty easy to spot scams anyway, since a weird deck with no detailed explanation is easily just a Casual deck.

The current Pro Decks (typically overlooked btw) could be merged in the new Standard Ranked, and/or accounted for with an additional variable in the visibility algorithm.

PS: if and when all this is implemented, an additional temporary Theorycraft box could be conceived, across expansions release times.

  • RavenSunHS's Avatar
    Refreshment Vendor 880 1487 Posts Joined 03/27/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    Our website is generally populated by a community that tends to prefer and give upvotes to what is off-meta, or meme, and/or with funny description/story. That's ok ofc.

    But the result in the Hot Decks boxes of the front page is often that a hot deck could be either a meme, or a candidate meta-breaker (more often the former), without the user being able to discern, before actually opening the deck page.

    And imo, the fact we display memes or Casual decks as Hot Decks makes us look as weirdos to a generic new user trying to find a place to improve their Ranked performances with the game.

    So my idea is, what about 4 Hot Decks boxes? One for Standard Ranked, one for Wild Ranked, one for Standard Just for Fun, one for Wild Just for Fun.

    ALTERNATIVELY, the 'Just for Fun' could all be merged together in a unique box, Standard and Wild.

    With 'Just for Fun' as the default option when an author publishes a new deck.

    At that point, deck authors should be compelled (maybe with a warning that clarifies that, if they try to select it) to define their deck as 'Ranked' ONLY IF they can provide the description of some decent performances in Ladder. And it'd be pretty easy to spot scams anyway, since a weird deck with no detailed explanation is easily just a Casual deck.

    The current Pro Decks (typically overlooked btw) could be merged in the new Standard Ranked, and/or accounted for with an additional variable in the visibility algorithm.

    PS: if and when all this is implemented, an additional temporary Theorycraft box could be conceived, across expansions release times.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    how do you decide what's a meme deck and what isn't`?

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • RavenSunHS's Avatar
    Refreshment Vendor 880 1487 Posts Joined 03/27/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare

    how do you decide what's a meme deck and what isn't`?

    Nobody would need to do that.

    The author of a new deck would/should decide between 'Just for Fun' (default) and 'Ranked', with 'Ranked' requiring some decent explanation of the author's experience on Ladder (against Ladder decks, in which ranks etc), with the deck.

    If one is unable to provide some decent Ranked experience explanation, then it's a 'Just for Fun' (aka 'Casual'), meme or not.

    PS: on the other hand, if one can provide explanation of oneself reaching say rank-5 with a meme deck, it'd definitely deserve the 'Ranked' label.

    The label would be a sort of certification of what a given deck *CAN* do, and in turn a discrimination for users browsing the Hot Decks boxes.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    I do partly agree, especially when there are some users who make like a million different OTK decks, most of which the community likes. I don't have anything against jank combo decks, but have several different dumb combo decks on the front page at the same times is a little repetitive. 

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • W0lfr1c's Avatar
    210 128 Posts Joined 05/31/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    I agree that default should be theocraft or 'Just for Fun'.   I would set all new decks to theocraft and you can only change that with an edit of the description. So you even don´t have an option to change on create. Maybe some will just add bla bla and change but so be it. Anything more especially admin reviewed feels complicated.

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2285 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    Agreed! The "Hot Standard Decks" section is always populated by crazy OTK decks. Those may be fun, but I'd hardly call them "hot" in the sense that they're popular decks or decks you should be laddering with. Isn't it implied that "hot" decks are good for laddering?

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  • Trollbert's Avatar
    Excited Elf 510 338 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

     I partly agree, until we can get more people voting on decks sometimes 2 upvotes will rocket you to the top page. 

    However I do like that there is a lot more variety than just meta decks with 2-3 cards changed like hearthpwn generally posts.

    Maybe adding a promotion for deck voting will help get the ball rolling as an idea

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  • Fluxflashor's Avatar
    CEO 2015 3142 Posts Joined 10/19/2018
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    The best thing we can do is just vote more on decks. When you see something, with a guide, that is good and not a total meme, toss it an upvote!

    I do think it is possible people aren't finding the voting easy and I would like to add a prompt when people get to the end of a guide to consider voting on it. I don't think we'll add extra front page deck widgets though, it would use too much space =(

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