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Progression After Completing Regional Rewards

I have completed all of the region rewards today.



After I have completed regions, I wanted to try if it give me any additional reward and joined a game and instantly surrendered and saw this screen.



What I saw is "The Season Road Level" but it seems it isn't active right now unfortunately because the experience point from the game didn't fill the bar but it continues to fill the bar of your weekly vault.

Well, I completed the whole set but I've thought that i could save some resources for future after i completed regional rewards and i did learnt earlier that there is the "Season Road Level" mistakenly by forgetting to change one of my completed regions. It had didn't fill the bar that time aswell but i guessed that it was just because i didn't complete other regions. Now I'm sure of that it won't fill season road level anymore.

This might be a hint for official release btw. There will probably be Season Road Level that doesn't seem active right now. It might be either like a "Battle Pass" system for any other game around, paid level system; or might be a free-to-play friendly system that will continue to reward players who completes regional rewards. I really don't know if anyone around web knows something about this content.

Do you think that this should be corrected for open beta?

I personally think that it shouldn't be because of solved meta at first day of the next expansion but well, I will continue to open my weekly vaults until next expansion comes and i will be saving so much Expedition Tokens + Shards because I won't play expeditions anymore just because I have completed the set so correcting this might not help for solved meta situations. I will probably have enough resource to craft some useful stuff at first day without this "Season Road Level" thing with all of those free Expedition Tokens and Shards because all of cards that I will get from Weekly Vaults turns into shards right now and it will be huge amount of Expedition Tokens from Weekly Vaults. If we calculate superficially and guess like the game will be released on June at best; it will be like;
1x Expedition Token per week => 17 Expedition Tokens that will give me 17 Champions at June.

Also I will be able to purchase Wildcards per week so it means that 3x per week => 39 Champion Wildcards until June. Right now we have 72 Champions. That means a paid player will be able to save 56 Champion wildcards right now if he/she completed the whole set. Riot said that they will bring one region on next expansion and that expansion also will bring 2x different champions to existing regions. That means new region will come with 6 champions. So math says;

6x3 = 18 new region champion cards + 2x6x3 = 36 existing region champion cards = 54 new champion cards. So if i will purchase all of the wildcards, I will be able to complete whole champions at first day of the Expansion if it hits on June.

If it will be how Riot says, People will save 16 Expedition Tokens which means 16 champions per 4 months.

I don't think that Riot will release a new expansion before the game officially released and they said that they will try to release the game before first half of the year so I'm assuming that my calculations are accurate enough according to what Riot said at open beta release video.

I really wonder what do you think about these situations. A healthy discussion might help both community and developers if they are following here. :)

Note: Btw, I have played free-to-play completely, didn't buy any wildcards. Sitting on 5k Shards but no Wildcards. I have spent all of my Wildcards to complete to set so It took 2 months and 2 weeks to complete to set with playing f2p completely.

Edit: I've edit so much stuff on this OP and added some calculations about Wildcards. I hope you who read before, re-read if you are interested. Sorry for that. :)

Edit2: Well, I really don't know why I've skipped this but I will be able to use those Expedition tokens 3x per week, so that means I will only guarantee my Expedition runs will be free with saving them but I really think that I can craft most of the champions with my saved shards. So the best way of saving should be x9 tokens i guess. I will play x3 per week and get 1x per week. With saving x9 tokens, I will guarantee my Expeditions will be free whole time I guess;

Have 9x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 7x
Have 7x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 5x
Have 5x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 3x
Have 3x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 1x
12 Total Champions from Expeditions in a month, I'm assuming I will get some champion cards from Weekly Vault + Regional Rewards (I'm also assuming that new regions will come with their own regional reward tree and Existing ones will expand or reset at some point with newer cards.) .
So it will take 1,5 - 2 months to complete sets again and start to save for next expansion in my opinion if anything about economy system won't change.

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  • I have completed all of the region rewards today.



    After I have completed regions, I wanted to try if it give me any additional reward and joined a game and instantly surrendered and saw this screen.



    What I saw is "The Season Road Level" but it seems it isn't active right now unfortunately because the experience point from the game didn't fill the bar but it continues to fill the bar of your weekly vault.

    Well, I completed the whole set but I've thought that i could save some resources for future after i completed regional rewards and i did learnt earlier that there is the "Season Road Level" mistakenly by forgetting to change one of my completed regions. It had didn't fill the bar that time aswell but i guessed that it was just because i didn't complete other regions. Now I'm sure of that it won't fill season road level anymore.

    This might be a hint for official release btw. There will probably be Season Road Level that doesn't seem active right now. It might be either like a "Battle Pass" system for any other game around, paid level system; or might be a free-to-play friendly system that will continue to reward players who completes regional rewards. I really don't know if anyone around web knows something about this content.

    Do you think that this should be corrected for open beta?

    I personally think that it shouldn't be because of solved meta at first day of the next expansion but well, I will continue to open my weekly vaults until next expansion comes and i will be saving so much Expedition Tokens + Shards because I won't play expeditions anymore just because I have completed the set so correcting this might not help for solved meta situations. I will probably have enough resource to craft some useful stuff at first day without this "Season Road Level" thing with all of those free Expedition Tokens and Shards because all of cards that I will get from Weekly Vaults turns into shards right now and it will be huge amount of Expedition Tokens from Weekly Vaults. If we calculate superficially and guess like the game will be released on June at best; it will be like;
    1x Expedition Token per week => 17 Expedition Tokens that will give me 17 Champions at June.

    Also I will be able to purchase Wildcards per week so it means that 3x per week => 39 Champion Wildcards until June. Right now we have 72 Champions. That means a paid player will be able to save 56 Champion wildcards right now if he/she completed the whole set. Riot said that they will bring one region on next expansion and that expansion also will bring 2x different champions to existing regions. That means new region will come with 6 champions. So math says;

    6x3 = 18 new region champion cards + 2x6x3 = 36 existing region champion cards = 54 new champion cards. So if i will purchase all of the wildcards, I will be able to complete whole champions at first day of the Expansion if it hits on June.

    If it will be how Riot says, People will save 16 Expedition Tokens which means 16 champions per 4 months.

    I don't think that Riot will release a new expansion before the game officially released and they said that they will try to release the game before first half of the year so I'm assuming that my calculations are accurate enough according to what Riot said at open beta release video.

    I really wonder what do you think about these situations. A healthy discussion might help both community and developers if they are following here. :)

    Note: Btw, I have played free-to-play completely, didn't buy any wildcards. Sitting on 5k Shards but no Wildcards. I have spent all of my Wildcards to complete to set so It took 2 months and 2 weeks to complete to set with playing f2p completely.

    Edit: I've edit so much stuff on this OP and added some calculations about Wildcards. I hope you who read before, re-read if you are interested. Sorry for that. :)

    Edit2: Well, I really don't know why I've skipped this but I will be able to use those Expedition tokens 3x per week, so that means I will only guarantee my Expedition runs will be free with saving them but I really think that I can craft most of the champions with my saved shards. So the best way of saving should be x9 tokens i guess. I will play x3 per week and get 1x per week. With saving x9 tokens, I will guarantee my Expeditions will be free whole time I guess;

    Have 9x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 7x
    Have 7x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 5x
    Have 5x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 3x
    Have 3x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 1x
    12 Total Champions from Expeditions in a month, I'm assuming I will get some champion cards from Weekly Vault + Regional Rewards (I'm also assuming that new regions will come with their own regional reward tree and Existing ones will expand or reset at some point with newer cards.) .
    So it will take 1,5 - 2 months to complete sets again and start to save for next expansion in my opinion if anything about economy system won't change.

  • Interesting find. I'm still quite a ways away from maxing out my region rewards.

    I absolutely think you shouldn't be able to rack up points for a Season Road Level that's supposed to take effect at a (much) later date. You might be right in that some people will still be able to craft a sizeable amount of cards on day 1 of the expansion hitting. But we don't need to make those players' headstart even greater.

  • Hmm congratz? guess you don't have any progression left anyway.. as you have a full collection now (took 2.5 months for a dedicated beta player which is what Riot is aiming for)

     

    As for me I looked today's at my collection after this champion capsule from Ionia: (spoiler to make the page shorter)

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    And doing 2 expeditions today (one 4 wins the other 7 wins, then crafted 2 Dravens since I really enjoyed playing him in the 7 wins expedition)

    And I am about 15 champion cards away from full champion collection, 50 commons didn't count rares but also along those lines, and epics I got all the playable ones and enough epic wild cards to craft most of the ones I am left (Around 10 I think..)

    So I (as a more casual actually I played a lot completed all quests, almost every day did the 3 wins) also am close to your point, but on my regions I am at 4 regions at 16 and 2 regions in the 12 area.. so I am quite far from your standing.

    Since you got nothing to unlock while having all regional rewards you don't have any rewards anyway.. I guess once your scenario will be more common among the people who are active but not 100% into the game like you do by then the new expansion will arrive..

    I mean in hearthstone I don't think ANYONE was even close to a quarter of classic in the beta as F2P so it's great that you can focus on being creative and competitive instead of feeling bad cause you don't have cards.

    I wonder how they will handle the people who have so many resources at expansion start We need to wait and see what Riot does.

     

  • Game is still in beta, there is a reasonable expectation that something will be done about this. At very least, if not an "infinite" progress, then new content might add additional levels to each region every time.

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  • Very interesting; thanks for sharing.

    I've been wondering how they intend to "curate" the collection.  E.g., let's say the first expansion launches on September 1st and they introduce 2-6 new regions: what happens to the existing 6 regions at that time?  Is it 6-in, 6-out?  Do the current 6 form an evergreen set and that each expansion expands upon?  Do all regions come and go each season a la HS Battlegrounds heroes?

    My gut tells me that the current 6 regions need to somehow act as an evergreen set because it's just too much work both for the developers and the players to completely reset every season.  Based on that: I could see them having all players do something like the following:

    1. Complete the "Prologue" reward road once
    2. Complete all 6 evergreen region roads once, in any order
    3. Complete a special season-specific road which gifts cards from the new expansion; resets every expansion
    • Quote From OldManSanns
      I've been wondering how they intend to "curate" the collection.  E.g., let's say the first expansion launches on September 1st and they introduce 2-6 new regions: what happens to the existing 6 regions at that time?  Is it 6-in, 6-out?  Do the current 6 form an evergreen set and that each expansion expands upon?  Do all regions come and go each season a la HS Battlegrounds heroes?

      My guess/hope is that it's more like HS Battlegrounds -- a different mix every season with no evergreens.

      I don't see any need for evergreen regions, given the way deck building works in this game.

      As for the Region Road:

      I always thought of this feature as a catch-up mechanism for new players. Obviously, it hasn't been exactly that for most of us since the game is so young, but I think that is the intent moving forward. For this reason, I wouldn't expect it to be tweaked or enhanced as an ongoing source of cards for free players.

      What really needs to happen is to make boards, guardians (and sleeves/card backs?) purchasable with shards. As of now, my Vault contains mostly shards, with an occasional epic that I never bothered to craft. I know I'll be able to spend a lot of those shards on expansion cards, but it would be a smart move for Riot to add a shard sink (like cosmetic items) to the economy before we get a chance to do that. People will be more likely to spend cash on new cards if they've squandered all their shards on fancy boards and such.