Alliance won Alterac Valley? Is it a joke? Never saw that happening the whole 5 years I played WoW (Classic till Pandaria)... Now I know that Hearthstone is not set in the same Timeline as WoW :P
We used to simul-queue back in Vanilla (before group queuing for AV was a thing) as Alliance and blitz through it to help get Sicnus to server number 1. Good Times.
Let's see if we can lay out the key components of a combo deck:
1. A small handful of key cards that combine together to give a high chance of just winning immediately when those cards are drawn and played.
2. Most of the rest of the deck is card draw, to make sure you find the combo.
3. It takes at least a few turns to set up the combo. It doesn't really have an alternate wincon - it wins with the combo or it loses. It also has VERY little interaction to respond to what the opponent is doing. It just tries to pull off its own gameplan.
4. It is vulnerable to being "rushed down" while it tries to assemble its combo.
5. Probably some other things I'm not thinking of.
Regardless, all of those things are true about Iceborn Daring Poros. I don't think it fits any other category besides combo. And you beat it the same way you beat combo - rush it down, or force it to defend itself (which it cannot do). And incidentally, this is why the winrate is not out of control - it's quite vulnerable to some decks.
I did my part by regularly losing against Alliance. I only picked Horde because I thought DerekThar would be better in the short run, I haven't used it. And I even got Vandaar in my fisrt 10 packs, gladly I disenchanted that.
I TOTALLY missed dusting my regular Vanndar because I was using it in a deck. Even missed the post that reminded me even tho I check in here every day. Thought I had until the patch. Ah well, gonna end up with three different copies I guess xD
I personally hate to call decks like daring poro buff a combo deck because it's not like you actually combine 2 cards combining their effects for greater payoff.
Iceborn legacy decks all tend to be token decks where the key function of your deck is to replicate card x as much as possible. In a way that is a "combo" but really it's just playing the same card over and over and over and more of a strange midrange deck.
To me poros are as much of a combo deck as jade golems in hs are.
Edit: I will only consider those decks combo decks where a sequence of cards played result in a direct win, or where a specific synergy is used to break midocre cards. Anthem effects like Poro Snax and or Iceborn Legacy do not count for me.
I think dean has already clarified before that this is supposed to be a 'cosmetic' so its deliberately not allowed to be dusted. Obviously this is an ongoing point where golden cards are offered in the rewards track, perfectly usable on its own, but cannot be dusted if you have a normal copy.
The advantage is being able to marvel at your diamond copy I guess.
I mean if we are gonna get only a diamond version of a card that we already have a non-disenchatable copy, at least give us a chance to do dust it. Otherwise I don't see any remarkable advantage of "winning".
Someone won something,? I must have missed something because the only thing I see is everyone getting a diamond card that isn’t even really used. So amazingly awesome that battle was. Wouldn’t have known because it was all the same to me.. wasn’t this diamond card only supposed to be given to the players who attained high or grand status by jan11th? As with all woke companies everyone , even the losers, get a prize. Everyone will get a diamond Drek card eventually as well too . Another distraction by clueless people who don’t know what they are doing to sustain the façade of being competent. The effort put into this was a 2 out of 10 and absolutely pathetic
Happy we won, but ngl feel a little bit screwed over that I now I need to continue grinding to get the other legendary, and have to stop opening packs because the refund period is over, while the "losing" faction receives the other legendary immediately. At least give Alliance players specifically some kind of cosmetic reward so we actually get something for winning, instead of getting a flat-out worse deal.
The winrate of poros is not nearly as high as people think it is.
It was very heavily played for, like, 2 days, and now it's dropped off very steeply. It's not actually as big of a problem as people initially thought it was.
On a related note - can we all, as a CCG community, just stop with the knee-jerk reactions? How many times do we have to get egg on our faces by crying for nerfs or making predictions with only 2 days of data in a volatile meta?
If poros is posting high winrates and high playrate in two weeks, THAT is the time to call for nerfs, to whine about it, etc etc. But not mere days after it even became a real thing, for basically the first time ever.
Side note - Iceborn Daring Poros is NOT an aggro deck. It's a combo deck. People who try to play it as aggro (by dropping daring poros as soon as they draw them) are gonna get their butts handed to them by any competent player.
I got the survey about this board and the only thing I considered buying was the battle pass for Merc mode. I do think it is a good idea to try to get more money with lower priced items.
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
Buddy you need a break from the internet
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
We used to simul-queue back in Vanilla (before group queuing for AV was a thing) as Alliance and blitz through it to help get Sicnus to server number 1. Good Times.
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Up To Date Winrates Post Patch
Let's see if we can lay out the key components of a combo deck:
1. A small handful of key cards that combine together to give a high chance of just winning immediately when those cards are drawn and played.
2. Most of the rest of the deck is card draw, to make sure you find the combo.
3. It takes at least a few turns to set up the combo. It doesn't really have an alternate wincon - it wins with the combo or it loses. It also has VERY little interaction to respond to what the opponent is doing. It just tries to pull off its own gameplan.
4. It is vulnerable to being "rushed down" while it tries to assemble its combo.
5. Probably some other things I'm not thinking of.
Regardless, all of those things are true about Iceborn Daring Poros. I don't think it fits any other category besides combo. And you beat it the same way you beat combo - rush it down, or force it to defend itself (which it cannot do). And incidentally, this is why the winrate is not out of control - it's quite vulnerable to some decks.
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
I did my part by regularly losing against Alliance. I only picked Horde because I thought DerekThar would be better in the short run, I haven't used it. And I even got Vandaar in my fisrt 10 packs, gladly I disenchanted that.
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
You can still get another free hero skin (tier 1) for completing the achievement if you care about that.
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
I TOTALLY missed dusting my regular Vanndar because I was using it in a deck. Even missed the post that reminded me even tho I check in here every day. Thought I had until the patch. Ah well, gonna end up with three different copies I guess xD
Up To Date Winrates Post Patch
I personally hate to call decks like daring poro buff a combo deck because it's not like you actually combine 2 cards combining their effects for greater payoff.
Iceborn legacy decks all tend to be token decks where the key function of your deck is to replicate card x as much as possible. In a way that is a "combo" but really it's just playing the same card over and over and over and more of a strange midrange deck.
To me poros are as much of a combo deck as jade golems in hs are.
Edit: I will only consider those decks combo decks where a sequence of cards played result in a direct win, or where a specific synergy is used to break midocre cards. Anthem effects like Poro Snax and or Iceborn Legacy do not count for me.
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
They can annoy a lot of people by making cards exclusive, or make more people happy playing their game by giving everyone something to enjoy.
I think most would merely need to be a human with normal amounts of empathy to make the right decision here.
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
I think dean has already clarified before that this is supposed to be a 'cosmetic' so its deliberately not allowed to be dusted. Obviously this is an ongoing point where golden cards are offered in the rewards track, perfectly usable on its own, but cannot be dusted if you have a normal copy.
The advantage is being able to marvel at your diamond copy I guess.
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
Most definitely, now I don't feel the need to complete the honor questline coz there's no real point in getting a golden Vanndar now
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
I mean if we are gonna get only a diamond version of a card that we already have a non-disenchatable copy, at least give us a chance to do dust it. Otherwise I don't see any remarkable advantage of "winning".
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
Feels kinda bad to end up with golden and diamond Vanndar and just regular Drektar, but oh well, it was a gamble and it is what it is 😉
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
Someone won something,? I must have missed something because the only thing I see is everyone getting a diamond card that isn’t even really used. So amazingly awesome that battle was. Wouldn’t have known because it was all the same to me.. wasn’t this diamond card only supposed to be given to the players who attained high or grand status by jan11th? As with all woke companies everyone , even the losers, get a prize. Everyone will get a diamond Drek card eventually as well too . Another distraction by clueless people who don’t know what they are doing to sustain the façade of being competent. The effort put into this was a 2 out of 10 and absolutely pathetic
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
Happy we won, but ngl feel a little bit screwed over that I now I need to continue grinding to get the other legendary, and have to stop opening packs because the refund period is over, while the "losing" faction receives the other legendary immediately. At least give Alliance players specifically some kind of cosmetic reward so we actually get something for winning, instead of getting a flat-out worse deal.
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I really like that this kind of playful chaotic stuff is still possible in this not exactly small indie company.
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
I feel a lot who joined Alliance had the same sentiment lol
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The first BG board also has this feature.
The Alliance Win the Battle for Alterac Valley! Diamond Card and More Stats to Arrive Later
+1 here! Let's gooo
Up To Date Winrates Post Patch
The winrate of poros is not nearly as high as people think it is.
It was very heavily played for, like, 2 days, and now it's dropped off very steeply. It's not actually as big of a problem as people initially thought it was.
On a related note - can we all, as a CCG community, just stop with the knee-jerk reactions? How many times do we have to get egg on our faces by crying for nerfs or making predictions with only 2 days of data in a volatile meta?
If poros is posting high winrates and high playrate in two weeks, THAT is the time to call for nerfs, to whine about it, etc etc. But not mere days after it even became a real thing, for basically the first time ever.
Side note - Iceborn Daring Poros is NOT an aggro deck. It's a combo deck. People who try to play it as aggro (by dropping daring poros as soon as they draw them) are gonna get their butts handed to them by any competent player.
Hearthstone Battlegrounds Might be Getting a New Jade-themed Board - Jade Gardens
I got the survey about this board and the only thing I considered buying was the battle pass for Merc mode. I do think it is a good idea to try to get more money with lower priced items.
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