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Happy Holidays! #DeleteDiablo https://t.co/kCPIblchtp

Happy Holidays! #DeleteDiablo https://t.co/kCPIblchtp

  • IamTehShadow
    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
    Happy Holidays! #DeleteDiablo https://t.co/kCPIblchtp

    • Jkirek_
      Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
      @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn Those comments read as though it's somehow "we're all in this together vs diablo", instead of "I'm all in this for me and diablo is in the lobby too". My average placement in diablo lobbies doesn't go up even if the whole lobby decides to target him, let alone if I'm the only one

      • Jkirek_
        Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
        @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn If the goal was to have diablo be overpowered, and to have everyone fight him together, the entire diablo mechanic is a failure, because no such incentive exists in the game. In fact the opposite is true: because you're likely fighting a copy every 4 turns, you can't damage them.

        • Jkirek_
          Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
          @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn You're incentivized not to care about winning diablo fights, because wasting resources overkilling diablo on his special turns doesn't result in any damage to him. And most games that choice isn't even there, because either by hero selection or shops it's impossible to beat him.

          • Jkirek_
            Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
            @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn This feels like we're talking about someone behind their back, so I think it's only fair that I do this: @Celestalon Quite some people have said a lot of things here, feel free to read/respond (or not)

            • IamTehShadow
              Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
              @Jkirek_ @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn @Celestalon I was gonna tag them all on monday, felt that was fair (still going to) but i just couldn't hold it in so i posted it, i felt that was fair too.

              • Chadd Nervigg
                Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                @IamTehShadow @Jkirek_ @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn Reminder: I don't work on Battlegrounds design or balance. Diablo is a temporary hero. And he's a boss that everyone should be thinking about and playing around when he's in the lobby. If you aren't, you're feeding him, making it harder for others.

                • Jkirek_
                  Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                  @Celestalon @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn Since I'm awarded a placement based on my position compared to the other 7 players in the lobby, and not just diablo, that would mean feeding diablo is a good thing: I *want* to make it harder for others.

                  • Chadd Nervigg
                    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                    @Jkirek_ @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn Sure, that's one possible route to look at it; make it a prisoner's dilemma sort of thing.

                    • Chadd Nervigg
                      Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                      @Jkirek_ @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn I'm merely pointing out (in my conversation with @snglttrs that you've cherry picked lines from and mixed up their order) that there is an avenue to increase your win chance vs Diablo, that most people aren't taking right now.

                      • Chadd Nervigg
                        Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                        @Jkirek_ @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn Regardless, he'll be gone soon. It's important that temporary events make an impact, otherwise what's the point? There are things that spice things up in a wild way, are exciting and fun for a time, but people burn out on and want to be over after experiencing it enough.

                        • Chadd Nervigg
                          Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                          @Jkirek_ @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn Temporary events are the best way we can do that. It's unavoidable (afaik, open to design ideas here) that people that play 12hr/day will burn out on this sort of thing sooner, and be tired of it. We have to choose an event duration to balance the enjoyment of everyone.

                      • ItsBen321
                        Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                        @Celestalon @Jkirek_ @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn The main issue I see is that you can indeed increase your chances against Diablo, but in doing so decrease your chances against the other 6 players in the lobby. Even help your opponents by giving the diablo 2 less spells. You can't gain mmr this way sadly

                        • Chadd Nervigg
                          Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                          @ItsBen321 @Jkirek_ @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @Aesirgn You don't want to make your board super weak against the others, but the fact that fight against Diablo SO much means that it's potentially a benefit that you can capitalize on. That's what so much of BG gameplay is about: maximizing odds. If you can counter Diablo, you should.

    • Aesirgn
      Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
      @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa Oh hey, just to clarify, I personally don't even play HS and haven't touched Blizzard games since early OW, so I may have been a bit biased against them in my conversation with Celestalon, but even then, I feel like the outcry from the community shouldn't fall on deaf ears.

      • Chadd Nervigg
        Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
        @Aesirgn @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa I'd love to hear what makes it feel like it falls on deaf ears?

        • Slysssa
          Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
          @Celestalon @Aesirgn @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad Obviously because you dare took a week off work. You should be pressing the buttons we want at all times

          • Chadd Nervigg
            Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
            @Slysssa @Aesirgn @IamTehShadow @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad 💜

        • IamTehShadow
          Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
          @Celestalon @Aesirgn @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa 1- No closed loop communication. The community can complain on every platform they know to the devs and we don't get any official confirmation. We want to know if you acknowledge or understand the problem, and agree/disagree, and if there is a plan in motion or any thoughts 1/?

          • IamTehShadow
            Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
            @Celestalon @Aesirgn @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa just for example, Diablo wasn't the 1st time but I hope we can work together to make it the last. there was a big community outcry for leap frogger and barrens blacksmith and jandice for a very long time. and we received 0 info = we only assume you think it's fine = :( community

            • IamTehShadow
              Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
              @Celestalon @Aesirgn @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa so step 1 is about being transparent, I think yall should be hella casual about it, like hey i just saw a post complaining about x and ask us on twitter or discord or somewhere. Which leads me to my next point

              • IamTehShadow
                Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                @Celestalon @Aesirgn @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa 2. A way to directly communicate with the devs and have conversations, not just hey this op pls nerf, where we can have many voices working together to form a solution. my idea involves a relay system where there is a community council in direct contact with the community..

                • IamTehShadow
                  Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                  @Celestalon @Aesirgn @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa and they can relay the concerns to the devs, along with any ideas and potential solutions. I also have ideas for the selection process, but should favor passionate active community members like @Slysssa @pocky_plays @G2Rdu @MinderRoots @ninaisnoob

                  • IamTehShadow
                    Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                    @Celestalon @Aesirgn @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @pocky_plays @G2Rdu @ninaisnoob having a lot of friendly and known faces in the community responding with "ok I hear you, i'll let the devs know" then they post an update later after reaching out to the devs, it gives people sources to find pertinent information and peace of mind knowing it's handled.

                    • IamTehShadow
                      Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                      @Celestalon @Aesirgn @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @pocky_plays @G2Rdu @ninaisnoob And honestly the community is really amazing at finding ideas and solutions, It would be amazing if they get to shine. ❤️

                      • IamTehShadow
                        Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                        @Celestalon @Aesirgn @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @pocky_plays @G2Rdu @ninaisnoob ok it would be pretty funny if this ends up falling on deaf ears 🤣🤣🤣 gg also end of thread

                        • Chadd Nervigg
                          Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                          @IamTehShadow @Aesirgn @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @pocky_plays @G2Rdu @ninaisnoob The community *is* amazing. A lot of what you describe are general community interaction, which we do regularly through Twitter, on top of more 'official' communications. Iksar's weekly AMAs helped a lot and while he's been out that's been missed; will consider alternatives.

                          • Chadd Nervigg
                            Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)
                            @IamTehShadow @Aesirgn @IksarHS @dogdog @snglttrs @MinderRoots @ixxdeee @HsZorgo @XQN_TheSad @Slysssa @pocky_plays @G2Rdu @ninaisnoob So it does sound like a lot of what you're asking for already does exist on Twitter. On the specific topic at hand, I struggle to understand what further communication you'd want; it's already known that it's a temporary event, that's ending soon.
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