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The AI in lab of legends

Submitted 3 years, 7 months ago by

It seems to be broken, it just won't play stuff even if it has mana to play stuff, it just won't I see the bot pass a turn with Thresh in hand twice for no apparent reason..

Also the first one almost always skips playing the fleeting spider, wonder it it wants to actually get spell mana, or "play better"

It wasn't like that at first you always saw curve plays no matter what almost all the time.. think they tried to tweak it, or use some ML algorithem but it didn't do well there.

Am I the only one that noticed that?

  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    It seems to be broken, it just won't play stuff even if it has mana to play stuff, it just won't I see the bot pass a turn with Thresh in hand twice for no apparent reason..

    Also the first one almost always skips playing the fleeting spider, wonder it it wants to actually get spell mana, or "play better"

    It wasn't like that at first you always saw curve plays no matter what almost all the time.. think they tried to tweak it, or use some ML algorithem but it didn't do well there.

    Am I the only one that noticed that?

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  • FenrirWulf's Avatar
    1005 367 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I thought it was because they tried to implement it so that it will pass whenever the opponent pass just so they could burn their mana, but I have seen the AIs just pass entirely when they have an incredibly easy play like Sejuani or Thresh. The AI is just pretty weird honestly, both in Lab of Legends and in the AI matches. Occasionally just using Vile Feast on their unit instead of the enemies or just target the wrong unit. It seems to be a WIP but I prefer this over not trying to tweak it at all. They have recently made the AI matches better so now you can face much more different decks which I'm down for.

    Take my words with a grain of salt. I'm unranked and only play casuals lmao.

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  • minuano28's Avatar
    Mountain 700 862 Posts Joined 09/10/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I haven't played the labs of legends since the release of the expansion, I will do it tomorrow and let you know if I run into the same problems.

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  • thazud's Avatar
    Duskrider 265 93 Posts Joined 06/05/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I have noticed too. I suits me fine as I only use Lab of Legends to gain an extra 400 and 200 XP "PvP" win. However, it takes away the challenge and it wasn't even that hard to begin with. 

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  • TheTriferianGeneral's Avatar
    Soldier 555 878 Posts Joined 02/10/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Yeah the strange "feature" is a thing but it's okay. 

    I mean i sometimes do not notice that I have to pass again and need some seconds to figure it out but that's not too bad.

    Anyways... who else likes the lab of legends a lot too?

    Like it's the best place to do dumb stuff without running into Hush :D

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I got almost 5 wins across the board, it's my favorite mode since hs's dalaran's heist.

    The most unfair combo I did was rally on death shark chariot + sapling every attack token. It's an infinite loop. 

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  • TheTriferianGeneral's Avatar
    Soldier 555 878 Posts Joined 02/10/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    That is your worst? I had a lulu deck that literally won on turn 2 (against 30 hp viktor) I had 0 mana Vault Breaker decks, I had run where Riven had 3 lichbanes...

    Or Katarina with double ancient coin  (0 mana) abd spellshield... and I got Stand United with double cast. which got to be the most op.....

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  • Hellcopter's Avatar
    270 306 Posts Joined 02/09/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Most insane combo i had was Lucian with the power Out the Gates + 1/+1 buff ability combined with Wild Inspiration + Warden's Prey + ephemeral copy in hand ability

    How does it work: Start of the game Lucian is summoned. Warden's Prey gets played wich generates another copy in hand that is ephemeral and cost 0 due Wild Inspiration power.
    Now fill the board with 5x ephemeral Warden's Prey alongside Lucian and attack. Not only Lucian will level up and double attack, but he also procs his Rally effect since one Warden's Prey dies after he attacks. This equals exactly 30 damage from T1... quite amazing

    Extra:

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    Hearthstone: Me vs Firebat -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09NCE81owjo

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  • Hellcopter's Avatar
    270 306 Posts Joined 02/09/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From thazud

    I have noticed too. I suits me fine as I only use Lab of Legends to gain an extra 400 and 200 XP "PvP" win. However, it takes away the challenge and it wasn't even that hard to begin with. 

    I set challenges for myself
    Example: never attacking until the oponnent decks out

    Hearthstone: Me vs Firebat -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09NCE81owjo

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From TheTriferianGeneral

    That is your worst? I had a lulu deck that literally won on turn 2 (against 30 hp viktor) I had 0 mana Vault Breaker decks, I had run where Riven had 3 lichbanes...

    Or Katarina with double ancient coin  (0 mana) abd spellshield... and I got Stand United with double cast. which got to be the most op.....

    got also lulu double ephemeral copy, rally, mana up, and cost down so also turn 1 OTK with lulu, had multiple times created cards cost -1 plus fleeting copy on a 1 cost card then I had the ionia guy who grows on summon for a round(had buffs are permanent though Out Of The Way), so I had turn 2 infinite/infinite guy.

    almost 5 wins across the board had very crazy runs :D

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