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A new Epic Demon Hunter Spell, Eye Beam, has been revealed!
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Talking about looks that kill ^^
10/10 card. 3 life and heal for 3 is worth 2 mana, so playing this for 3 isn't even that bad, especially for a class that wants to heal as much as Demon Hunters do. And if you can get this for 0 mana, it can swing the game in your favor.
0 mana spells are always something to be afraid of.
Interesting interaction with this card in Wild today. My opponent played Loatheb and I drew Eye Beam next turn, which means it should cost 6 mana. However, the spell still cost 1 mana. It seems like the Outcast effect overrides Loatheb's. I don't know if this is a bug or not, but it feels unfair.
It's got its up- and downsides. On the other side of the coin I drew one off of Skull of Gul'dan (outcasted) and it was on the far right side of my hand. I expected it to cost 0 but instead it cost 1 mana, which I didn't have.
Guys, the card says "This costs (1)", not "This costs (2) less".
Yes, I understand that. That doesn't mean everyone expects it to override discounts or cost increases.
Yes, I understood that. It's just that its wording effectively negates Loatheb's effect when it's in outcast position, which feels unfair yet understandable (again, given the wording on the card).
It should still cost 6 with Loatheb. Eye Beam says "this costs (1)" and Loatheb says "costs (5) more". 5 more than 1 = 6.
but it proabbly works in terms of who came first? Loatheb first says it costs 5 more. then u get eye beam that says if this is outcast then it costs 1. loatheb effect comes first, think of it as a stack just like on MtG or LoR, effects triggered after are prioritized so they happen first and according to the cards mechanic
I think you are right, but also wrong. Let me explain.
I think you are right that because Loatheb came first, his ability works first. So first Eye Beam costs 5 more, and then after that it costs 1. But that isn't how the stack works in MTG or LoR. In those games, whatever happened last triggers first. So first Loatheb would go onto the stack, then Eye Beam, Eye Beam would cost 1, then Loatheb's ability would come into effect and make it cost 6. But then again, Loatheb's ability is a one-time change. The effect enters the 'stack' then does the thing and leaves. Eye Beam on the other hand is a passive thing, something that is constantly in effect as long as a certain condition is met. But really, I have no idea. Just as I was writing this I changed my mind about which way it should work like four times. I could see it working either way.
It seems consistent to the changes to Naga Sea Witch, which made giants cost 5, than applied their own natural cost reductions.
In that case - Minions cost 5 - 5 mana giant costs less based on condition
Here - Spells cost 5 more - Outcast costs 1.
If it said costs 2 less, then it would be weird, but as it is, it's right.
Well it's a loophole for sure, mainly because of how Eye Beam's outcast effect is worded. Is there any other spell/card that can circumvent Loatheb's effect like this card can?
Although this only happened because I managed to topdeck Eye Beam right after my opponent played Loatheb, so maybe that's why the outcast effect overrode it. I wonder if the spell will cost 6 mana if it's been sitting in my hand in outcast position once Loatheb is played (probably not because of the wording).