Just like Voidcaller, yes, but your opponent has to play around it very differently. You'd often try to leave an opponent's Voidcaller on the board until you have a way to kill it AND whatever it summons. With 8 attack, you need to deal with this. Voidcaller was also strong because Warlock has many ways of killing his own minions. Will Demon Hunter?
The only deck that can potentially abuse this is Plot Twist Warlock, as it is the only Warlock deck that can manipulate the card draw order without excessively relying on RNG.
Otherwise, it's a slightly better Siphon Soul with a conditional upside. Which isn't bad per se, but with the cards we've seen up until now, it's too tame to be impactful. We can see this as the replacement for Lord Godfrey in Standard, and if we look at it under this light, well... We'll see
At this point, I think we can safely assume it's part of their class identity. It's something I thought they never really captured with Warlock. Fel magic is destruction incarnate, and it's chaotic. In Warlock, they've focused on the "powerful, but hurts you or your minions when you use it" aspect of Fel. In DH, they're focusing on "so much raw destructive power that it's hard to control", which fits in with the brutally aggressive (not in the card game sense) personality of most Demon Hunters. DHs train very hard to control the demon within, which refers to metamorphosizing into actual demons and possibly losing control if they use too much Fel magic.
Yeah, I know it doesn't mean anything from a "is this good or bad for gameplay" perspective. Just pointing out why DH has a lot of it. From what I've seen so far, I don't mind. DH is shaping up to be a solid midrange class, so all this chip damage should help me and my minions keep the enemy board clear. I was that guy who loved Flamewaker.
Druid already has a good Amount of Taunts available to them, which makes this is kinda unnecessary. Plus, most of the Stuff that you summon at 7 Mana is already big, so small Buffs really don't do much.
But maybe in a midrangey Deck? It says „at 7 Mana Crystals", so maybe your plan could be to ramp up fast and play multiple mid-sized Minions (or Embiggened Minions) and buff them?
This is certainly not Voidcaller, not simply because Mal'Ganis is unavailable but because the mana discount you'll be getting is just nowhere near as good. But ultimately, I think that comparison is a bit unfair and Fel Summoner is probably better than it looks.
Demon Hunter has at least a few decent targets for Fel Summoner's deathrattle where they'll be getting a minion for a discount (Pit Commander, Hulking Overfiend, and Priestess of Fury). So the question is, will those targets have a meaningful impact on the game if you can cheat them out?
Obviously Fel Summoner is very easy to kill on board - an aggressively stated 2 drop can kill it - and it doesn't have rush, so odds are pretty good that if your opponent wants to kill Fel Summoner and trigger the deathrattle on their turn, they can and will. But in those cases your opponent either has access to hard removal for the demon that gets summoned, or will be punching through that demon. In either case, you're probably looking at your opponent spending at least 6 mana's worth of resources (the initial attack and subsequent removal or attacks on the demon) and at least two cards. That's a fair pretty trade, and if any of those demons stick to the board long enough for you to take a turn, that's a lot of upside.
Actually Warlock has a pretty big gap between 5 and 8 mana in terms of boardclears and Godfrey is leaving so we might have to run this out of necessity.
I mean it certainly is some form of skill when you have to decide wether you want to destroy all minions now or if it's not worth enough and you want to keep it for a singletarget removel later in the game.
If there is a way to cheat this out, this could be annoying af. Maybe a card for Embiggen Druid for another annoying taunt like that 7-mana spell-immune cat....
It's a decent replacement for Mechanical Whelp for Deathrattle Rogue enthusiasts (although I don't think that deck will be all that useful without Necrium Blade).
Also the kind of thing that makes me wish that Oblivitron didn't just target Mechs.
Combo with Plot Twist, and its very, very powerful. You get to destroy everyone else and maintain two minions if you get it right.
Its a little slow at 6, but decent at 8 as a kill all AoE board swing. This will see play for its flexibility, but will almost certainly have to be played alongside Plot Twist to get the most out of it.
Maybe there's more cards in future reveals that will make it more consistent as a board clear. Warlock is certainly not lacking those, so its really up to how easy it is to get the board clear effect.
New Druid Spell - Germination
This will see play for sure. Molten reflection saw lots of play, albeit in a very different type of deck, and this has the added Taunt bonus.
New Demon Hunter Minion - Fel Summoner
Just like Voidcaller, yes, but your opponent has to play around it very differently. You'd often try to leave an opponent's Voidcaller on the board until you have a way to kill it AND whatever it summons. With 8 attack, you need to deal with this. Voidcaller was also strong because Warlock has many ways of killing his own minions. Will Demon Hunter?
Keli'dan the Breaker is a new Warlock Legendary Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
The only deck that can potentially abuse this is Plot Twist Warlock, as it is the only Warlock deck that can manipulate the card draw order without excessively relying on RNG.
Otherwise, it's a slightly better Siphon Soul with a conditional upside. Which isn't bad per se, but with the cards we've seen up until now, it's too tame to be impactful. We can see this as the replacement for Lord Godfrey in Standard, and if we look at it under this light, well... We'll see
Ashes of Outland
Does anyone know what is the last day the bundles are available for purchase?
Priestess of Fury is a new Demon Hunter Card Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
At this point, I think we can safely assume it's part of their class identity. It's something I thought they never really captured with Warlock. Fel magic is destruction incarnate, and it's chaotic. In Warlock, they've focused on the "powerful, but hurts you or your minions when you use it" aspect of Fel. In DH, they're focusing on "so much raw destructive power that it's hard to control", which fits in with the brutally aggressive (not in the card game sense) personality of most Demon Hunters. DHs train very hard to control the demon within, which refers to metamorphosizing into actual demons and possibly losing control if they use too much Fel magic.
Yeah, I know it doesn't mean anything from a "is this good or bad for gameplay" perspective. Just pointing out why DH has a lot of it. From what I've seen so far, I don't mind. DH is shaping up to be a solid midrange class, so all this chip damage should help me and my minions keep the enemy board clear. I was that guy who loved Flamewaker.
Are You Prepared? - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Yes, but Classic cards aren't allowed for this competition
New Demon Hunter Minion - Priestess of Fury
Pit Commander says hi. Pit Commander wants to hang out with this minion.
New Druid Spell - Ironbark
Druid already has a good Amount of Taunts available to them, which makes this is kinda unnecessary. Plus, most of the Stuff that you summon at 7 Mana is already big, so small Buffs really don't do much.
But maybe in a midrangey Deck? It says „at 7 Mana Crystals", so maybe your plan could be to ramp up fast and play multiple mid-sized Minions (or Embiggened Minions) and buff them?
Scrapyard Colossus is a new Card Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
big priest Poggers
Scrapyard Colossus is a new Card Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
aww!!! i can totally feel the fluffiness that golem emits! just wanna hug it. :x
Fel Summoner is a new Demon Hunter Card Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
This is certainly not Voidcaller, not simply because Mal'Ganis is unavailable but because the mana discount you'll be getting is just nowhere near as good. But ultimately, I think that comparison is a bit unfair and Fel Summoner is probably better than it looks.
Demon Hunter has at least a few decent targets for Fel Summoner's deathrattle where they'll be getting a minion for a discount (Pit Commander, Hulking Overfiend, and Priestess of Fury). So the question is, will those targets have a meaningful impact on the game if you can cheat them out?
Obviously Fel Summoner is very easy to kill on board - an aggressively stated 2 drop can kill it - and it doesn't have rush, so odds are pretty good that if your opponent wants to kill Fel Summoner and trigger the deathrattle on their turn, they can and will. But in those cases your opponent either has access to hard removal for the demon that gets summoned, or will be punching through that demon. In either case, you're probably looking at your opponent spending at least 6 mana's worth of resources (the initial attack and subsequent removal or attacks on the demon) and at least two cards. That's a fair pretty trade, and if any of those demons stick to the board long enough for you to take a turn, that's a lot of upside.
Scrapyard Colossus is a new Card Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
That's a translated name and not likely final honestly. It was originally posted by czhihong on reddit.
Using scrapyard on a non-mech card feels like poor flavor.
Scrapyard Colossus is a new Card Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
Paradoxical!
Keli'dan the Breaker is a new Warlock Legendary Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
Actually Warlock has a pretty big gap between 5 and 8 mana in terms of boardclears and Godfrey is leaving so we might have to run this out of necessity.
Scrapyard Colossus is a new Card Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
Albeit looking powerful, this type of cards never see play unfortunately :(
Keli'dan the Breaker is a new Warlock Legendary Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
why would they need that though, Mecha'thun already works fine.
Keli'dan the Breaker is a new Warlock Legendary Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
I mean it certainly is some form of skill when you have to decide wether you want to destroy all minions now or if it's not worth enough and you want to keep it for a singletarget removel later in the game.
Are You Prepared? - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Can Classic Demon Hunter card have Outcast mechanic?
Nevermind, I don't read that this one excluding Basic Classic, & Outland.
Will change it after, but aside from classic, is there any expansion using Outcast mechanic?
New Neutral Minion - Scrapyard Colossus
If there is a way to cheat this out, this could be annoying af. Maybe a card for Embiggen Druid for another annoying taunt like that 7-mana spell-immune cat....
New Neutral Minion - Scrapyard Colossus
It's a decent replacement for Mechanical Whelp for Deathrattle Rogue enthusiasts (although I don't think that deck will be all that useful without Necrium Blade).
Also the kind of thing that makes me wish that Oblivitron didn't just target Mechs.
Other than that it just seems like Arena Bait
Keli'dan the Breaker is a new Warlock Legendary Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
At least Plot Twist can add a tiny bit of skill back into it, but then you're still paying 8 mana and 2 cards, and hoping to draw him of course.
Scrapyard Colossus is a new Card Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
"weak to silence" comment coming in 3... 2... 1...
Scrapyard Colossus is a new Card Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
Fluffy Elemental? More like Dusty Elemental.
Keli'dan the Breaker is a new Warlock Legendary Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
Combo with Plot Twist, and its very, very powerful. You get to destroy everyone else and maintain two minions if you get it right.
Its a little slow at 6, but decent at 8 as a kill all AoE board swing. This will see play for its flexibility, but will almost certainly have to be played alongside Plot Twist to get the most out of it.
Maybe there's more cards in future reveals that will make it more consistent as a board clear. Warlock is certainly not lacking those, so its really up to how easy it is to get the board clear effect.
Ironbark is a new Druid Card Revealed for Hearthstone's Ashes of Outland Expansion
Hey I definitely played Barkskin as a cycle card for King Togwaggle or Mecha'thun shenanigans. But yes, not sure where Ironbark will fit going forward.