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New Card - Rolling Fireball

Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

I didn't see that as a "why". Peter's response mostly seemed like a an explanation of "how" the interaction works and a flavor reason. The wording still seems off to me personally.
Not a huge deal though, thanks for the response and excited for the expansion!

Did you catch the two follow-up replies? They go a bit more into the "why" of the interaction. Essentially we could have made it block all damage, block 1 damage and the rest is excess, or block the health's damage and the rest is excess. We chose the last one because it made the most sense in most situations, and also had the most interesting gameplay and fit best thematically. You can imagine an Argent Squire being played vs Tirion and can feel smart about playing Tirion to soak up more of the damage from the Explosive Rune (or in this case the Rolling Fireball).

Glad you're excited for the expansion! We all are as well! Can't wait for the set to go live!
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

And if one direction is empty it will definitely go the other direction if there are minions that side?

~~Also, shouldn't divine shield just tank all the damage? Of course you are the professional designer but the explosive runes logic just seems weird to me.~~ Saw the twitter link just now.

Edit: One more thing, I love how there's almost always a game designer in the comments to clear stuff up. Thanks for caring.

If one direction is empty it will definitely go the other direction.

We talked a lot about it how these effects should work with Divine Shield and settled on the implementation we have. I talk more about it on another reply in this thread.

Happy to answer questions about the new cards!
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

What happens when it kills a minion that spawns other minions as a Deathrattle?

I believe it just keeps on rolling.
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

Yeah, but does it roll onto those new minions or do they not exist until the ball's done rolling?

(also thank you very much for coming out here and helping clarify things, hectic day for you folk, real pros of ya :) )

I believe they don’t spawn until the rolling is done, but I’m out of the office now so I can’t check to be 100% sure. But I’m about 98.76% sure.
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

If you target a divine shield minion then can it roll one way, then roll back on the divine shield minion? Or once it chooses it wont turn back

Once it chooses it can't turn back. Too much momentum!
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

How does it interact with spell damage. Just raw, or will each bounce get a bonus?

Just raw.
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

i am curious about this: does the minion dies after the damage has been processed on minion? similar to defile. or will dead minion stay up and is a wall until spell has been fully processed similar to literally any other spell?

The ball rolls then deaths process.
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

I believe they don’t spawn until the rolling is done, but I’m out of the office now so I can’t check to be 100% sure. But I’m about 98.76% sure.

I just checked and deaths happen after the fireball is done rolling so I upgrade this to 100% sure.
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

Does the same thing happen when it rolls into a divine shield?

Yes.
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

What happens when it strikes a divine shield? Under explosive runes logic, my guess is that 8 - health of shielded minion will be then split left or right.

This is correct. It uses Explosive Runes logic.
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

Is there a reason it works this way? It always seemed odd to me how "excess" was interpreted for Explosive Runes

Peter explained this a while back when the question came for Explosive Runes. https://twitter.com/LegendaryFerret/status/934128833502040065
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

One thing is not clear. If I have a board full of wisps, does this spell kill them all? Or only two of them?

It depends where you position it. If you play it on the left or right most it will kill then all. If you play it on the second wisp from the left it could roll left and stop or roll right and kill 6 wisps. In this scenario you’d want target it on the ends and it would always kill all the wisps.
Puffin

Posted 6 years ago (Source)

Oh, so it chooses which direction to roll after it kills the first minion and then keeps going in that direction until it runs out of damage or hits the edge of the board. Interesting.

Yep. it picks a direction and keeps on rolling.

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    <div class="md"><p>I didn't see that as a "why". Peter's response mostly seemed like a an explanation of "how" the interaction works and a flavor reason. The wording still seems off to me personally.<br/>
Not a huge deal though, thanks for the response and excited for the expansion!</p>
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</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>Did you catch the two follow-up replies? They go a bit more into the "why" of the interaction. Essentially we could have made it block all damage, block 1 damage and the rest is excess, or block the health's damage and the rest is excess. We chose the last one because it made the most sense in most situations, and also had the most interesting gameplay and fit best thematically. You can imagine an Argent Squire being played vs Tirion and can feel smart about playing Tirion to soak up more of the damage from the Explosive Rune (or in this case the Rolling Fireball). </p>

<p>Glad you're excited for the expansion! We all are as well! Can't wait for the set to go live!</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9oj2l4">Puffin</a>)
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    <div class="md"><p>And if one direction is empty it will definitely go the other direction if there are minions that side?</p>

<p><del>Also, shouldn't divine shield just tank all the damage? Of course you are the professional designer but the explosive runes logic just seems weird to me.</del> Saw the twitter link just now.</p>

<p>Edit: One more thing, I love how there's almost always a game designer in the comments to clear stuff up. Thanks for caring.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>If one direction is empty it will definitely go the other direction. </p>

<p>We talked a lot about it how these effects should work with Divine Shield and settled on the implementation we have. I talk more about it on another reply in this thread. </p>

<p>Happy to answer questions about the new cards!</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9ozllx">Puffin</a>)
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<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>What happens when it kills a minion that spawns other minions as a Deathrattle?</p>
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</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>I believe it just keeps on rolling.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9p02cy">Puffin</a>)
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    <div class="md"><p>Yeah, but does it roll onto those new minions or do they not exist until the ball's done rolling?</p>

<p>(also thank you very much for coming out here and helping clarify things, hectic day for you folk, real pros of ya :) )</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>I believe they don’t spawn until the rolling is done, but I’m out of the office now so I can’t check to be 100% sure. But I’m about 98.76% sure.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9p0ml9">Puffin</a>)
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    <div class="md"><p>If you target a divine shield minion then can it roll one way, then roll back on the divine shield minion? Or once it chooses it wont turn back</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>Once it chooses it can't turn back. Too much momentum!</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9okixq">Puffin</a>)
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    <div class="md"><p>How does it interact with spell damage. Just raw, or will each bounce get a bonus?</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>Just raw.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9p3pfy">Puffin</a>)
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<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>i am curious about this: does the minion dies after the damage has been processed on minion? similar to defile. or will dead minion stay up and is a wall until spell has been fully processed similar to literally any other spell?</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>The ball rolls then deaths process.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9t36l3">Puffin</a>)
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<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>I believe they don’t spawn until the rolling is done, but I’m out of the office now so I can’t check to be 100% sure. But I’m about 98.76% sure.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>I just checked and deaths happen after the fireball is done rolling so I upgrade this to 100% sure.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9t33ka">Puffin</a>)
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    <div class="md"><p>Does the same thing happen when it rolls into a divine shield?</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>Yes.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9t3iby">Puffin</a>)
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    <div class="md"><p>What happens when it strikes a divine shield? Under explosive runes logic, my guess is that 8 - health of shielded minion will be then split left or right.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>This is correct. It uses Explosive Runes logic.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9o8p0j">Puffin</a>)
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<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>Is there a reason it works this way? It always seemed odd to me how "excess" was interpreted for Explosive Runes</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>Peter explained this a while back when the question came for Explosive Runes.  <a href="https://twitter.com/LegendaryFerret/status/934128833502040065">https://twitter.com/LegendaryFerret/status/934128833502040065</a></p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9oeb19">Puffin</a>)
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<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>One thing is not clear. If I have a board full of wisps, does this spell kill them all? Or only two of them?</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>It depends where you position it. If you play it on the left or right most it will kill then all. If you play it on the second wisp from the left it could roll left and stop or roll right and kill 6 wisps. In this scenario you’d want target it on the ends and it would always kill all the wisps.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9oefwg">Puffin</a>)
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    <div class="md"><p>Oh, so it chooses which direction to roll after it kills the first minion and then keeps going in that direction until it runs out of damage or hits the edge of the board. Interesting.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>Yep. it picks a direction and keeps on rolling.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9oiimz">Puffin</a>)
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<p><div class="md"><p>Did you catch the two follow-up replies? They go a bit more into the "why" of the interaction. Essentially we could have made it block all damage, block 1 damage and the rest is excess, or block the health's damage and the rest is excess. We chose the last one because it made the most sense in most situations, and also had the most interesting gameplay and fit best thematically. You can imagine an Argent Squire being played vs Tirion and can feel smart about playing Tirion to soak up more of the damage from the Explosive Rune (or in this case the Rolling Fireball). </p>

<p><div class="md"><p>If one direction is empty it will definitely go the other direction. </p>

<p>We talked a lot about it how these effects should work with Divine Shield and settled on the implementation we have. I talk more about it on another reply in this thread. </p>

<p>Happy to answer questions about the new cards!</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9ozllx">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>I believe it just keeps on rolling.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9p02cy">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>I believe they don’t spawn until the rolling is done, but I’m out of the office now so I can’t check to be 100% sure. But I’m about 98.76% sure.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9p0ml9">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>Once it chooses it can't turn back. Too much momentum!</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9okixq">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>Just raw.</p>
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<p><div class="md"><p>The ball rolls then deaths process.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9t36l3">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>I just checked and deaths happen after the fireball is done rolling so I upgrade this to 100% sure.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9t33ka">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>Yes.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9t3iby">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>This is correct. It uses Explosive Runes logic.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9o8p0j">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>Peter explained this a while back when the question came for Explosive Runes.  <a href="https://twitter.com/LegendaryFerret/status/934128833502040065">https://twitter.com/LegendaryFerret/status/934128833502040065</a></p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9oeb19">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>It depends where you position it. If you play it on the left or right most it will kill then all. If you play it on the second wisp from the left it could roll left and stop or roll right and kill 6 wisps. In this scenario you’d want target it on the ends and it would always kill all the wisps.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9oefwg">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>Yep. it picks a direction and keeps on rolling.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/599232226433040394/651857321613590568/unknown.pngf9oiimz">Source</a>)</p>
    
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