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Others playing Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous... Are you also finding that bow users, of basically any sort, are 4-5x the dps of your melee/casters? My one bow fighter is literally 90% of my team's DPS. Just got another bow user, they're almost as strong as the first one.

Others playing Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous... Are you also finding that bow users, of basically any sort, are 4-5x the dps of your melee/casters? My one bow fighter is literally 90% of my team's DPS. Just got another bow user, they're almost as strong as the first one.

  • Chadd Nervigg
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago (Source)
    Others playing Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous... Are you also finding that bow users, of basically any sort, are 4-5x the dps of your melee/casters? My one bow fighter is literally 90% of my team's DPS. Just got another bow user, they're almost as strong as the first one.

    • Chadd Nervigg
      Posted 3 years, 11 months ago (Source)
      Typical combat: Caster: Uses a medium-high level spell slot, hits 2 enemies, resist on 3rd, damage reduced, deals 6 and 2. Ranged: Auto-attacks. A double-hit, a crit, and a hit, 14+16, 32, 12. One of those kills the target, so pulses an AoE of 15 to 3 others. No exaggeration.

    • jakuboboza
      Posted 3 years, 11 months ago (Source)
      @Celestalon No. Top dps is always a mage class followed by alchemist and followed by archers. You might think that because you didn’t build melee correctly. Try maybe monk dps or two hand barb. Sorc using chain lightning and quicken chain lightning in one turn can dish out easily 400 dmg.

      • Chadd Nervigg
        Posted 3 years, 11 months ago (Source)
        @jakuboboza Maybe the casters just suck at low levels? My commander is sorc, and is like my weakest character. Level 8 right now. Lightning Bolt, with no-resist/immune is solid damage, but it like is 6 casts per rest, and still is outdmg'd by a single auto from my two ranged.

        • jakuboboza
          Posted 3 years, 11 months ago (Source)
          @Celestalon Lightning bolt is fairly weird as it often can cause more harm to party than damage. Try to focus on spells at that level that doesn’t harm party like controlled fireball. I use fireball to open fights. Also maybe switch to turn mode from active pause it will help you place aoe

          • Chadd Nervigg
            Posted 3 years, 11 months ago (Source)
            @jakuboboza Yeah, the positional requriements of all the spells make them way less reliable than the point and click of ranged autos. And even still, are way less damage. Switched to turn based a couple levels back, helped. Lightning Bolt is my highest spell right now.

            • Seerows_Law
              Posted 3 years, 11 months ago (Source)
              @Celestalon @jakuboboza If you're level 8 you should have access to 4th level spells, unless you're multiclassing your casters. Generally you should not be multiclassing your casters unless you have a specific goal in mind. (eg in Kingmaker NPC wizard had rogue levels and made a great arcane trickster)

              • Chadd Nervigg
                Posted 3 years, 11 months ago (Source)
                @Seerows_Law @jakuboboza I thought Dragon Disciple levels counted for Sorc levels, but I'm realizing now that it only counts some of them, or something. Somehow 5 Sorc + 3 DragDisc = 7 Sorc Caster Levels, it seems. I'm also thinking that getting the 4 in Dragon Disc should be done lategame, not early.

                • jakuboboza
                  Posted 3 years, 11 months ago (Source)
                  @Celestalon @Seerows_Law For first meeting with system I would keep sorcerer from 1 to 20. I know it is late suggestion. What mythic path you took ?

                  • Chadd Nervigg
                    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago (Source)
                    @jakuboboza @Seerows_Law Azata.
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