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Streamer Tip: It's not "coaching" if your "coach" is telling you every move. It's terrible to watch from a viewers perspective and I've tuned away from two streams this week because of this. Coaching allows for teachable moments. And as @MeatiHS would say, "reflection".

Streamer Tip: It's not "coaching" if your "coach" is telling you every move. It's terrible to watch from a viewers perspective and I've tuned away from two streams this week because of this. Coaching allows for teachable moments. And as @MeatiHS would say, "reflection".

Alkali Layke

Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)

Streamer Tip: It's not "coaching" if your "coach" is telling you every move. It's terrible to watch from a viewers perspective and I've tuned away from two streams this week because of this. Coaching allows for teachable moments. And as @MeatiHS would say, "reflection".

Frodan

Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@alkali_layke @MeatiHS I'd argue that people learn in many different ways. There's several benefits to having a strong hands-on approach, especially when learning an unfamiliar subject/skill in front of an audience.

Alkali Layke

Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@Frodan @MeatiHS I love a strong approach myself, and often high apm situations lend themselves to "I'm going to tell you how to get through this and we'll talk about it after". It's the no "after" I'm seeing that's concerning. No discussion. Just que the next game and dictate every play again.

Frodan

Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@alkali_layke @MeatiHS Yeah that’s totally fair. Some people just want the answers to the test instead of properly learning. That’s just a waste of time for everyone.

Alkali Layke

Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@Frodan @MeatiHS I'm sensitive to it because I've had a lot of coaching. Some bad, some good, and some excellent. My favorite coaches so far have been @PapaJasonHS, @MeatiHS and @Educatedcollins. All of them gave me opportunities to make choices for myself, even if they coached me out of them

Jkirek_

Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@alkali_layke @MeatiHS I've realized this is hardly doable in BGs, unless it's a situation where the player being coached is already very comfortable with the game; there's simply little to no time to thoroughly discuss plays and make them in the turn. Reflection afterwards is very much a must.

Alkali Layke

Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@Jkirek_ @MeatiHS Yes. BGs is tough. Which is why I get really frustrated when no time is taken to review the matches after. And I like when coaches ask the player what they think could have gone differently first, rather then just tell them.
AvaritiaHS

Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@Jkirek_ @alkali_layke @MeatiHS I've only really seen @F2K_Shadybunny do coaching live and every time it's an eye-opening experience even if you're not the one being coached. Really like how the coachee gets to play out his games and Shady is able to go in depth on replays the thought process behind every turn.

Alkali Layke

Posted 3 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@AvaritiaHS @Jkirek_ @MeatiHS @F2K_Shadybunny We don't deserve @F2K_Shadybunny! He's a great coach and a wonderful human too!

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Streamer Tip: It's not "coaching" if your "coach" is telling you every move.

It's terrible to watch from a viewers perspective and I've tuned away from two streams this week because of this.

Coaching allows for teachable moments. And as @MeatiHS would say, "reflection". (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469124568614797312">Alkali Layke</a>)
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@alkali_layke @MeatiHS I'd argue that people learn in many different ways. There's several benefits to having a strong hands-on approach, especially when learning an unfamiliar subject/skill in front of an audience. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469126345133215749">None</a>)
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@Frodan @MeatiHS I love a strong approach myself, and often high apm situations lend themselves to "I'm going to tell you how to get through this and we'll talk about it after". It's the no "after" I'm seeing that's concerning. No discussion. Just que the next game and dictate every play again. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469142563009351680">Alkali Layke</a>)
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@alkali_layke @MeatiHS Yeah that’s totally fair. Some people just want the answers to the test instead of properly learning. That’s just a waste of time for everyone. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469150936832512001">None</a>)
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@Frodan @MeatiHS I'm sensitive to it because I've had a lot of coaching. Some bad, some good, and some excellent. My favorite coaches so far have been @PapaJasonHS, @MeatiHS and @Educatedcollins. All of them gave me opportunities to make choices for myself, even if they coached me out of them (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469152857823662082">Alkali Layke</a>)
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@alkali_layke @MeatiHS I've realized this is hardly doable in BGs, unless it's a situation where the player being coached is already very comfortable with the game; there's simply little to no time to thoroughly discuss plays and make them in the turn. Reflection afterwards is very much a must. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469143123985109000">None</a>)
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@Jkirek_ @MeatiHS Yes. BGs is tough. Which is why I get really frustrated when no time is taken to review the matches after. And I like when coaches ask the player what they think could have gone differently first, rather then just tell them. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469144297886814211">Alkali Layke</a>)
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@Jkirek_ @alkali_layke @MeatiHS I've only really seen @F2K_Shadybunny do coaching live and every time it's an eye-opening experience even if you're not the one being coached. Really like how the coachee gets to play out his games and Shady is able to go in depth on replays the thought process behind every turn. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469167931506323456">None</a>)
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@AvaritiaHS @Jkirek_ @MeatiHS @F2K_Shadybunny We don't deserve @F2K_Shadybunny! He's a great coach and a wonderful human too! (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469170960523685888">Alkali Layke</a>)
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Streamer Tip: It's not "coaching" if your "coach" is telling you every move.

It's terrible to watch from a viewers perspective and I've tuned away from two streams this week because of this.

Coaching allows for teachable moments. And as @MeatiHS would say, "reflection". (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469124568614797312">Source</a>)

@alkali_layke @MeatiHS I'd argue that people learn in many different ways. There's several benefits to having a strong hands-on approach, especially when learning an unfamiliar subject/skill in front of an audience.

@Frodan @MeatiHS I love a strong approach myself, and often high apm situations lend themselves to "I'm going to tell you how to get through this and we'll talk about it after". It's the no "after" I'm seeing that's concerning. No discussion. Just que the next game and dictate every play again. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469142563009351680">Source</a>)

@alkali_layke @MeatiHS Yeah that’s totally fair. Some people just want the answers to the test instead of properly learning. That’s just a waste of time for everyone.

@Frodan @MeatiHS I'm sensitive to it because I've had a lot of coaching. Some bad, some good, and some excellent. My favorite coaches so far have been @PapaJasonHS, @MeatiHS and @Educatedcollins. All of them gave me opportunities to make choices for myself, even if they coached me out of them (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469152857823662082">Source</a>)
 
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@alkali_layke @MeatiHS I've realized this is hardly doable in BGs, unless it's a situation where the player being coached is already very comfortable with the game; there's simply little to no time to thoroughly discuss plays and make them in the turn. Reflection afterwards is very much a must.

@Jkirek_ @MeatiHS Yes. BGs is tough. Which is why I get really frustrated when no time is taken to review the matches after. And I like when coaches ask the player what they think could have gone differently first, rather then just tell them. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469144297886814211">Source</a>)

@Jkirek_ @alkali_layke @MeatiHS I've only really seen @F2K_Shadybunny do coaching live and every time it's an eye-opening experience even if you're not the one being coached. Really like how the coachee gets to play out his games and Shady is able to go in depth on replays the thought process behind every turn.

@AvaritiaHS @Jkirek_ @MeatiHS @F2K_Shadybunny We don't deserve @F2K_Shadybunny! He's a great coach and a wonderful human too! (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1469170960523685888">Source</a>)
 
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