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Very disappointed to see a community manager supporting the narrative that people who literally look at public data on their computer and NOT the people who create said data and their conscious decision to not encrypt it are to blame for this shitty situation. >:( https://t.co/F3S2cyYruV

Very disappointed to see a community manager supporting the narrative that people who literally look at public data on their computer and NOT the people who create said data and their conscious decision to not encrypt it are to blame for this shitty situation. >:( https://t.co/F3S2cyYruV

  • tharid
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
    Very disappointed to see a community manager supporting the narrative that people who literally look at public data on their computer and NOT the people who create said data and their conscious decision to not encrypt it are to blame for this shitty situation. >:( https://t.co/F3S2cyYruV

    • RidiculousHat
      Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
      @tharid the cm doesn't deal with data encryption and i think it is fairly easy to figure out that a published reveal schedule is likely the intended timeline for info. i'm sure they'll lock down the cdn, but in the mean time, certainly it's possible to run a news site without it?

      • RidiculousHat
        Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
        @tharid it seems pretty reasonable to say that news sites have control of what they choose to do. "public" and "published" are not the same thing. we shouldn't try to act like they are. and clearly nobody is stopping any publications - but you can't blame the cms for being upset

        • tharid
          Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
          @RidiculousHat Not blaming them for being upset per se - I blame them (and devs alike) for being upset at media. Let's not get into semantics because we both know that this issue could be solved at its core by, as you call it, locking down the CDN - and that's all there is to it!

          • RidiculousHat
            Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
            @tharid or... for community reveals you could just not publish the article until the reveal is done. why is that not an option

            • tharid
              Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
              @RidiculousHat Why is it not an option to encrypt data? That way we wouldn't have to talk about this shitty decision that outlets need to make in the first place

              • RidiculousHat
                Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
                @tharid right - they could encrypt it, but they won't. and you could not publish early, but you will. everyone's making choices. what about: -news site reaches out to cm to figure what they want -cdn remains public for all to use to prepare what they need -community members get reveal

                • RidiculousHat
                  Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
                  @tharid instead, we have: -news site sees patch data, immediately publishes every time -cm upset that content creators get scooped on their own reveals -news sites saying "well it's your fault" this seems worse

                  • tharid
                    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
                    @RidiculousHat Let's talk about "news site reaches out to cm to figure what they want". Now I'm talking semantics, but you'd need to turn this one around, like: -> Vendor build gets pushed to CDN -> CM contacts sites what they don't want to see published -> News sites publish what's "safe"

                    • RidiculousHat
                      Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
                      @tharid okay, but julian - certainly you realize at this point that the community team doesn't want stuff published early. you have a choice between the relationship or the page count. you're making your choice and you still get to make it - but the consequence every time you do is drama

                      • RidiculousHat
                        Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
                        @tharid this is not new information and *you still get exactly what you want* - just not without consequence. the fact that they leave the choice up to you does not make the drama their fault. encrypting the cdn takes the choice out of your hands, but you don't have to wait for that.

                        • RidiculousHat
                          Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
                          @tharid and i'm not here to judge if you decide you want page views - that's up to you and everyone that runs a news site. it's hard out there to make it and plenty of sites datamine. but you know what the reaction's gonna be every time - if you keep making the choice, is what it is

                          • tharid
                            Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
                            @RidiculousHat Imagine this: One day, we'll reach WoW levels of datamining. Then it's not only a few sites reporting about datamining - streamers, YTers, podcasters like you, they all have to report about datamined content. Why? Because they have to if they want to stay relevant.

                            • RidiculousHat
                              Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
                              @tharid we're not there yet and hearthstone isn't wow, man. i'm not here to slippery slope this thing. why are we dealing with imagined scenarios instead of acknowledging that you could make a different decision if you wanted to?

                              • Chadd Nervigg
                                Posted 3 years, 7 months ago (Source)
                                @RidiculousHat @tharid WoW has a *public* test realm, with a fully intended path to access it. Hearthstone does not. "lol small indie coffee shop can't be bothered to lock the door to their back room. It's their fault if someone goes back there and grabs a bag of coffee and walks off with it."
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