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Opponent's far watch post made my infused Murlocula cost 1; I suppose this has to be a bug because the card text says "This costs (0)" not "This costs (4) less"? Not sure who to tag here... @Chakki_HS @IksarHS https://t.co/1dtSX1RFvw

Opponent's far watch post made my infused Murlocula cost 1; I suppose this has to be a bug because the card text says "This costs (0)" not "This costs (4) less"? Not sure who to tag here... @Chakki_HS @IksarHS https://t.co/1dtSX1RFvw

  • CapilanoHS
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
    Opponent's far watch post made my infused Murlocula cost 1; I suppose this has to be a bug because the card text says "This costs (0)" not "This costs (4) less"? Not sure who to tag here... @Chakki_HS @IksarHS https://t.co/1dtSX1RFvw

    • RidiculousHat
      Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
      @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS not a bug, just based on how the infuse mechanic works - it transforms murlocula into a 0 mana 3/4 minion, which gets +1 added on top of it doesn't work the same as predation etc which have cost-setting text - this is a new minion with a base cost 0 that can be modified

      • Ike__HS
        Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
        @RidiculousHat @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS I played a game vs align, infused it after they played alignment and still it still cost 1. Wasn't sure if it was intended that way or not too.

        • hsdecktech
          Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
          @Ike__HS @RidiculousHat @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS Sounds like the two cases are being treated in a contradictory way to me. I'll flag to the team and let dev look at it.

          • RidiculousHat
            Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
            @hsdecktech @Ike__HS @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS this seems like it's the same to me, no? it's just like if a murloc tinyfin was alignmented. upgraded murlocula is the same as any other card with a 0 in the top left

            • hsdecktech
              Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
              @RidiculousHat @Ike__HS @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS I think I misunderstood the first tweet. I was thinking it was Infused, returned to deck, then drawn and got the +1 cost. If we're saying it was drawn normal, got the +1 cost, then infused, then yeah, these seem like the same situation. Not sure if it's right, though.

              • Ike__HS
                Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                @hsdecktech @RidiculousHat @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS Yeah I just responded with a situation with a diff card but same result. The original tweet answered my question of intended or not - just not what I expected the answer to be

                • RidiculousHat
                  Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                  @Ike__HS @hsdecktech @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS murlocula and strongman use the same wording as cost-setting text stuff like predation or whatever but it functions differently because they're transforms. i don't know if i'd say "intended" so much as "expected"/'consistent"

                  • GallonHS
                    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                    @RidiculousHat @Ike__HS @hsdecktech @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS Nothing here looks like a bug to me.

                    • hsdecktech
                      Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                      @GallonHS @RidiculousHat @Ike__HS @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS Already sent the email, sorry. Feel free to close as “not a clue.”

                      • GallonHS
                        Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                        @hsdecktech @RidiculousHat @Ike__HS @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS It’s a red herring!

                    • Chakki
                      Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                      @GallonHS @RidiculousHat @Ike__HS @hsdecktech @CapilanoHS @IksarHS Yeah, this is technically correct but the wording is a bit misleading for edge cases like this: "This costs (0)" normally means "I run a power that applies after all enchantments and sets my cost to 0", leading to it ignoring other cost modifiers.

                      • Chakki
                        Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                        @GallonHS @RidiculousHat @Ike__HS @hsdecktech @CapilanoHS @IksarHS Infuse, however, really means "transform this card into a completely different one with the new text that is implied, in this case a cost of 0. This isn't a power or enchantment, it's just the base cost of the card. Any enchantments added to the card then can modify that cost.

      • CapilanoHS
        Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
        @RidiculousHat @Chakki_HS @IksarHS Order of the mechanism seems unintuitive because far watch post changed the cost before the infuse happened, but I guess that could be the case

        • RidiculousHat
          Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
          @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS it goes from (4+1) to (0+1) - transforms in hand carry over enchantments. works the same way that strongman did

          • FenoHS
            Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
            @RidiculousHat @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS It's not the same tho right, strongman transformed into a different card, this doesnt. I think it should cost 0.

            • RidiculousHat
              Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
              @FenoHS @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS this transforms when it infuses, as do all infuse cards - same functionality as corrupt, just a different trigger. here are the two cards and here is the chakki explanation https://t.co/lz6SRwn2I2 https://t.co/lLlg7yIbIg

              • FenoHS
                Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                @RidiculousHat @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS Hmm this is weird to me. Isn't the wording wrong then? The enchantment happened on the 4 cost minion, why does the "it costs 0" not override it? The effect of the watchpost isnt an aura is it?

                • RidiculousHat
                  Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                  @FenoHS @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS same wording as strongman. neither card is an aura https://t.co/29OhcaEG9q

                  • FenoHS
                    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                    @RidiculousHat @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS If ur strongman costed 8 mana and u corrupted it then it was 0 right? Qt least that's what i remember.

                    • RidiculousHat
                      Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                      @FenoHS @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS nope. it carries over enchantments same as every other corrupt card. transforms in hand keep enchantments. remember how if you used thaurissan and a card transformed it still cost 1 less?

                      • FenoHS
                        Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                        @RidiculousHat @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS I just tested it and Strongman cost 0, not 1.

                        • Ike__HS
                          Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                          @FenoHS @RidiculousHat @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS I knew I wasn't crazy... I was just to lazy to test it

                          • FenoHS
                            Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                            @Ike__HS @RidiculousHat @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS Hat out there makin me question reality dood...

                            • Ike__HS
                              Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                              @FenoHS @RidiculousHat @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS I took the ok im stupid whatever I won't play the stupid murloc approach. Was way easier

                              • RidiculousHat
                                Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                                @Ike__HS @FenoHS @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS for what it's worth i expect the bug fix here to be to strongman

                                • Chakki
                                  Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                                  @RidiculousHat @Ike__HS @FenoHS @CapilanoHS @IksarHS feno out here on a crusade to get strongman nerfed

                        • RidiculousHat
                          Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                          @FenoHS @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS yo @GallonHS

                          • GallonHS
                            Posted 3 years, 5 months ago (Source)
                            @RidiculousHat @FenoHS @CapilanoHS @Chakki_HS @IksarHS 🤨
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