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BGs gameplay clarifications for 24.2! 🧵 Patch notes: https://t.co/OvWdr5kvGU (I will keep updating this thread as much as I can)

BGs gameplay clarifications for 24.2! 🧵 Patch notes: https://t.co/OvWdr5kvGU (I will keep updating this thread as much as I can)

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

BGs gameplay clarifications for 24.2! 🧵 Patch notes: https://t.co/OvWdr5kvGU (I will keep updating this thread as much as I can)

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

- Quest difficulty will change based on 1) your hero, 2) available minion types, and 3) its paired Reward - Some Quest/Reward pairs are banned (e.g. Track the Footprints & Pilfered Lamps) - Some Rewards are banned for certain heroes (e.g. Snicker Snacks & Shudderwock)

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

- Unlikely Duo can have any 2 minion types from the lobby as its play requirement - Some Quests/Rewards are more/less common than others (e.g. Unlikely Duo is more likely than any other Quest) - The ordering check for Sort It All Out happens before any end of turn effects

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

- Tarecgosa will become permanently Golden from Stolen Gold - Cooked Book upgrades by +1/+1 - Secret Sinstone is only offered to heroes with Discover hero powers (e.g. Elise) - Another Hidden Body will keep the same Quest and difficulty on future repeats

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

- Ghastly Mask will pick a random (but curated) end of turn minion to give you when you complete it. The difficulty will change based on that minion (e.g. Famished Felbat is harder than Iron Sensei) - The Stealth from Theotar's Parasol is temporary. The Health buff is permanent.

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

- The Friends Along the Way can get any minion type in the lobby. You'll know the type when you pick it, and it won't change after you pick it. - The Wheel of Yogg-Saron had some changes: https://t.co/xUDBIrNtZw

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

🔮 Wondrous Wisdomball! 🔮 - Whenever you refresh, there is a chance for a lucky(ish) outcome. - There are 10 possible outcomes. I spoiled one of them on HSBG: https://t.co/r0i70sirAl - Have fun finding them! I'm not sharing them all for at least a few weeks

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

- Silverback Patriarch was removed because he was too good stats for the cost. My sorrow is immeasurable. - Elise will add the Golden Monkey to the shop - The Golden Monkey is ALWAYS Golden (even if stolen by Murozond/etc.). - The Golden Monkey gives a triple reward

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

- Golden Monkey is not a Beast - Rendle the Mistermind is not a typo lol - Rendle will add the stolen minion to your hand - Rakanishu's buff is based off the minion you are TARGETING, not your current tavern tier - Aranna will refill the shop after minions are consumed by Demons

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

- ALL heroes can now exceed 10 Gold. So if you sell a minion at 10 Gold, you will go to 11 Gold instead of wasting it. - Excluding special effects like Gallywix, you will still start your turn at a cap of 10 Gold (i.e. you won't keep increasing at start of turn once you hit 10)

ben_heathstone

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Appreciate the first change as it doesn’t make me feel like a dummy anymore when I sell first. 😎

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@ben_heathstone I really like the change too. Should make playing just feel a lot smoother

wang18286749

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Will the score be reset to 0 in the new season? The patch content is not written

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@wang18286749 If you mean MMR/player rank, it is being reset this patch

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

- New heroes are no longer early access. You can still get them even if you do not purchase the season pass - New heroes are guaranteed in every valid lobby for 2 weeks after launch (this rule will be true going forward for future heroes as well)

SorrenEZ

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell What happens if voljin swaps a 0 attack minion and gives it stealth with the new quest reward?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@SorrenEZ There is a check that if all your minions have stealth, they lose stealth

Jkirek_

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Did aranna have her 5 roll requirement before getting full shops removed?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@Jkirek_ Nope! She still has to refresh 5 times to get spectral sight

FeefaPointz

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell If you're playing Aranna will the golden Monkey have space to spawn when her hero power is active? And will the golden version that spawns two monkeys make space at tavern tier 6?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@FeefaPointz Elise will make space for the monkey!

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@FeefaPointz Well, monkey(s) if you have multiple or a Golden Elise

Jeppe15

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Does this mean if you have 2 felbat and a total of 7 demons on board with Aranna, you consume a total of 14 demons always?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@Jeppe15 That is a good question! I'll find out

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@Jeppe15 Ok, so right now spectral sight doesn't refill during end of turn triggers. But we consider that a bug and will make it work with Felbat in a future update.

MyntyPhresh

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Hypothetically, what tier would Boulderfist Oger be?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@MyntyPhresh S tier

bofur_hs

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell MONKE was too pure for BG's. RIP

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@bofur_hs I'm devastated 😭😭😭

pocky_plays

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell What reward/hero combos are banned? I assume Varden and Lamps, and Shudderwock/Snacks as mentioned. Any others specifically? Would like to know be fore I try to force the impossible. Thanks

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@pocky_plays Bannings will absolutely shift as we get live data/make changes, but here are initial bans: Snicker Snacks: Shudderwock Ritual Dagger: Bru'kan Anima Bribe: Gallywix, Millhouse Cooked Book: Gallywix, Millhouse

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@pocky_plays Secret Sinstone: Everyone EXCEPT Tickatus, Silas, Elise, Azshara, Zephrys, Alexstrasza, Cookies, Scabbs Teal Tiger Sapphire: Gallywix, Millhouse Varden is currently not banned from Pilfered Lamps. But uh, umm, I, umm, maybe don't expect that forever

Jkirek_

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Akazamzarak with Secret Sinstone would've been really cool :(

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays 🤔

Jkirek_

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Since akazamzarak reads "discover a secret. put it into the battlefield", it could put a copy of the secret into your hand that you can choose to play later

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays Oh yeah I understood

Jkirek_

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Was Galewing added to the list of heroes that can get secret sinstone? Any others?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays As of 24.2.2 I don't think we modified any of the possible heroes for Secret Sinstone, but I've made a note to audit the list.
Jkirek_

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays https://t.co/NlHkoNPUC2

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays I guess I was wrong and it was added to the list

RidiculousHat

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays it was a secret

JNytemarePierce

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@RidiculousHat @LoewenMitchell @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays Why is secret sinstone only available on the heroes who can discover all the time pretty much? Not available to everyone?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@JNytemarePierce @RidiculousHat @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays During testing, it sometimes felt disappointing to get it on a hero without access to discover. There were games where you just couldn't find any triples and it felt like you didn't have a Reward at all. But if you have a hero power that discovers, you can always do something.

JNytemarePierce

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @RidiculousHat @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays You didn't list her but I'm going off the assumption that hooktusk also has access to this quest right because of her hero power?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@JNytemarePierce @RidiculousHat @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays Hooktusk's hero power is not a Discover effect, so they cannot get Secret Sinstone

YesSeven

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays There is no Master Nguyen on this Secret Sinstone list. So what happened to the screenshot below that I found on Reddit? https://t.co/22JhYSQjCy

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@YesSeven @pocky_plays So it was technically unintended (and adding hero powers to hand is absolutely a bug that is logged), but we're deciding whether Nguyen should keep access to Sinstone

ben_heathstone

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @Celestalon @pocky_plays But, but Shudderwock is on the Snicker Snacks. 😔😎 https://t.co/5Yqtx2tGOb

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@ben_heathstone @Celestalon @pocky_plays Silly squirrel, Snicker Snacks are for kids! NO SHUDDERWOCKS!!!

sunxiaochuan020

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays I think VolJin and Theotar's Parasol will be danger. he can use new dragon to make 0atk minion. https://t.co/VqwbQeFDys

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@sunxiaochuan020 @pocky_plays Should be ok. There's a check that if all your minions have stealth + 0 attack they lose stealth.

MinderRoots

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Where will the adjustment to this be announced?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@MinderRoots @pocky_plays I'm not sure. Probably through official channels but I'll just tweet them out too

Ranlit_HS

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @ninaisnoob Once again I LOVE everything about this patch (cough cough expect that one thing but OK no point bitching about it in front of devs) Good stuff!!! One thing, a bit sad that Kooky came and now left, but now Chromawing is forever changed, and imho, not as fun as it once was :( https://t.co/ROtaQkeybJ

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@Ranlit_HS @ninaisnoob Chromawing is an interesting case! Though Kooky was what finally pushed it over the line, there have been a lot of things we couldn't ship because they were broken alongside Chromawing. Changing Chromawing gives us the space to explore some of those designs in the future.
Ranlit_HS

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @ninaisnoob Keep up the good work around “micro-managing” the heroes! Balance is more important than ever. Love all redesigns so far! Wish there was option to pay a bit less to get 3 hero choices. I wanna support your work, I just rlly don’t need cosmetics and don’t wanna pay for those :(

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@Ranlit_HS @ninaisnoob We are absolutely committed to improving the play experience of all our heroes. We're always looking for feedback on what heroes folks like/dislike (and ideally why) to help guide our focus.

WatchWaterboy

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Hey Mitchell, Can Denathrius get the quest rewards that "Needs 2 Minions to be Golden" and the quest that gives you "Two of a minion when you Discover one?" My chat is theory crafting breaking the entire game ATM.

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@WatchWaterboy Denathrius can get Pilfered Lamps but he cannot get Secret Sinstone (only a really curated list of heroes can get that one)

WatchWaterboy

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell I missed this earlier but thank for the knowledge! Really enjoying the update

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Source)

@WatchWaterboy Glad to hear!

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BGs gameplay clarifications for 24.2! 🧵
Patch notes: https://t.co/OvWdr5kvGU

(I will keep updating this thread as much as I can) (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848194677026817">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- Quest difficulty will change based on 1) your hero, 2) available minion types, and 3) its paired Reward
- Some Quest/Reward pairs are banned (e.g. Track the Footprints & Pilfered Lamps)
- Some Rewards are banned for certain heroes (e.g. Snicker Snacks & Shudderwock) (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848196598329345">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- Unlikely Duo can have any 2 minion types from the lobby as its play requirement
- Some Quests/Rewards are more/less common than others (e.g. Unlikely Duo is more likely than any other Quest)
- The ordering check for Sort It All Out happens before any end of turn effects (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848198355750914">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- Tarecgosa will become permanently Golden from Stolen Gold
- Cooked Book upgrades by +1/+1
- Secret Sinstone is only offered to heroes with Discover hero powers (e.g. Elise)
- Another Hidden Body will keep the same Quest and difficulty on future repeats (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848200028852226">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- Ghastly Mask will pick a random (but curated) end of turn minion to give you when you complete it. The difficulty will change based on that minion (e.g. Famished Felbat is harder than Iron Sensei)
- The Stealth from Theotar's Parasol is temporary. The Health buff is permanent. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848201698263041">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- The Friends Along the Way can get any minion type in the lobby. You'll know the type when you pick it, and it won't change after you pick it.
- The Wheel of Yogg-Saron had some changes: https://t.co/xUDBIrNtZw (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848203258507264">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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🔮 Wondrous Wisdomball! 🔮
- Whenever you refresh, there is a chance for a lucky(ish) outcome.
- There are 10 possible outcomes. I spoiled one of them on HSBG: https://t.co/r0i70sirAl
- Have fun finding them! I'm not sharing them all for at least a few weeks (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848205338906626">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- Silverback Patriarch was removed because he was too good stats for the cost. My sorrow is immeasurable. 
- Elise will add the Golden Monkey to the shop
- The Golden Monkey is ALWAYS Golden (even if stolen by Murozond/etc.).
- The Golden Monkey gives a triple reward (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848207461584897">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- Golden Monkey is not a Beast
- Rendle the Mistermind is not a typo lol
- Rendle will add the stolen minion to your hand
- Rakanishu's buff is based off the minion you are TARGETING, not your current tavern tier
- Aranna will refill the shop after minions are consumed by Demons (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848209189629953">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- ALL heroes can now exceed 10 Gold. So if you sell a minion at 10 Gold, you will go to 11 Gold instead of wasting it.
- Excluding special effects like Gallywix, you will still start your turn at a cap of 10 Gold (i.e. you won't keep increasing at start of turn once you hit 10) (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848210799824896">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Appreciate the first change as it doesn’t make me feel like a dummy anymore when I sell first. 😎 (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562852105898954754">None</a>)
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@ben_heathstone I really like the change too. Should make playing just feel a lot smoother (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562856211598704640">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Will the score be reset to 0 in the new season? The patch content is not written (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563035025783738373">None</a>)
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@wang18286749 If you mean MMR/player rank, it is being reset this patch (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563142891455025153">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- New heroes are no longer early access. You can still get them even if you do not purchase the season pass
- New heroes are guaranteed in every valid lobby for 2 weeks after launch (this rule will be true going forward for future heroes as well) (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564433153262886912">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell What happens if voljin swaps a 0 attack minion and gives it stealth with the new quest reward? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564631069839728645">None</a>)
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@SorrenEZ There is a check that if all your minions have stealth, they lose stealth (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564631351109746696">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Did aranna have her 5 roll requirement before getting full shops removed? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562855843003252738">None</a>)
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@Jkirek_ Nope! She still has to refresh 5 times to get spectral sight (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562856005951983618">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell If you're playing Aranna will the golden Monkey have space to spawn when her hero power is active? And will the golden version that spawns two monkeys make space at tavern tier 6? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562897808989904898">None</a>)
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@FeefaPointz Elise will make space for the monkey! (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562905425774661634">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@FeefaPointz Well, monkey(s) if you have multiple or a Golden Elise (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562905621401579520">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Does this mean if you have 2 felbat and a total of 7 demons on board with Aranna, you consume a total of 14 demons always? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563093452279398407">None</a>)
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@Jeppe15 That is a good question! I'll find out (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563202059016753157">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@Jeppe15 Ok, so right now spectral sight doesn't refill during end of turn triggers. But we consider that a bug and will make it work with Felbat in a future update. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563209061159424009">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Hypothetically, what tier would Boulderfist Oger be? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563006385851207686">None</a>)
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@MyntyPhresh S tier (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563006911322066945">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell MONKE was too pure for BG's. RIP (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563065094266728449">None</a>)
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@bofur_hs I'm devastated 😭😭😭 (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563143049597046786">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell What reward/hero combos are banned? I assume Varden and Lamps, and Shudderwock/Snacks as mentioned. Any others specifically? Would like to know be fore I try to force the impossible. Thanks (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564424916954398720">None</a>)
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@pocky_plays Bannings will absolutely shift as we get live data/make changes, but here are initial bans:

Snicker Snacks: Shudderwock
Ritual Dagger: Bru'kan
Anima Bribe: Gallywix, Millhouse
Cooked Book: Gallywix, Millhouse (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564430340923465728">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@pocky_plays Secret Sinstone: Everyone EXCEPT Tickatus, Silas, Elise, Azshara, Zephrys, Alexstrasza, Cookies, Scabbs
Teal Tiger Sapphire: Gallywix, Millhouse

Varden is currently not banned from Pilfered Lamps. But uh, umm, I, umm, maybe don't expect that forever (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564430785712644097">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Akazamzarak with Secret Sinstone would've been really cool :( (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564433269256503296">None</a>)
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@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays 🤔 (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564433539394899969">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Since akazamzarak reads "discover a secret. put it into the battlefield", it could put a copy of the secret into your hand that you can choose to play later (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564434342528573443">None</a>)
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@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays Oh yeah I understood (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564434685119369218">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Was Galewing added to the list of heroes that can get secret sinstone? Any others? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1568271224148721666">None</a>)
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@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays As of 24.2.2 I don't think we modified any of the possible heroes for Secret Sinstone, but I've made a note to audit the list. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1568276436347125763">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays https://t.co/NlHkoNPUC2 (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569084093677043713">None</a>)
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@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays I guess I was wrong and it was added to the list (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569084840900804611">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays it was a secret (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569085097483149312">None</a>)
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@RidiculousHat @LoewenMitchell @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays Why is secret sinstone only available on the heroes who can discover all the time pretty much? Not available to everyone? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569089928130068480">None</a>)
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@JNytemarePierce @RidiculousHat @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays During testing, it sometimes felt disappointing to get it on a hero without access to discover. There were games where you just couldn't find any triples and it felt like you didn't have a Reward at all. But if you have a hero power that discovers, you can always do something. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569096973483147264">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @RidiculousHat @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays You didn't list her but I'm going off the assumption that hooktusk also has access to this quest right because of her hero power? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569101197100941316">None</a>)
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@JNytemarePierce @RidiculousHat @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays Hooktusk's hero power is not a Discover effect, so they cannot get Secret Sinstone (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569104309492539392">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays There is no Master Nguyen on this Secret Sinstone list. So what happened to the screenshot below that I found on Reddit? https://t.co/22JhYSQjCy (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1570490717981790208">None</a>)
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@YesSeven @pocky_plays So it was technically unintended (and adding hero powers to hand is absolutely a bug that is logged), but we're deciding whether Nguyen should keep access to Sinstone (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1570521737523236864">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @Celestalon @pocky_plays But, but Shudderwock is on the Snicker Snacks. 😔😎 https://t.co/5Yqtx2tGOb (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564435680259883009">None</a>)
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@ben_heathstone @Celestalon @pocky_plays Silly squirrel, Snicker Snacks are for kids!

NO SHUDDERWOCKS!!! (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564436154937708545">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays I think VolJin and Theotar's Parasol will be danger.
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@sunxiaochuan020 @pocky_plays Should be ok. There's a check that if all your minions have stealth + 0 attack they lose stealth. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564593183488614400">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Where will the adjustment to this be announced? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564735773156442113">None</a>)
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@MinderRoots @pocky_plays I'm not sure. Probably through official channels but I'll just tweet them out too (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564744186447921153">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @ninaisnoob Once again I LOVE everything about this patch (cough cough expect that one thing but OK no point bitching about it in front of devs)

Good stuff!!!

One thing, a bit sad that Kooky came and now left, but now Chromawing is forever changed, and imho, not as fun as it once was :( https://t.co/ROtaQkeybJ (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562946265138475008">None</a>)
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@Ranlit_HS @ninaisnoob Chromawing is an interesting case! Though Kooky was what finally pushed it over the line, there have been a lot of things we couldn't ship because they were broken alongside Chromawing. Changing Chromawing gives us the space to explore some of those designs in the future. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562949089956102152">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @ninaisnoob Keep up the good work around “micro-managing” the heroes! Balance is more important than ever.

Love all redesigns so far!

Wish there was option to pay a bit less to get 3 hero choices. I wanna support your work, I just rlly don’t need cosmetics and don’t wanna pay for those :( (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562947416118407169">None</a>)
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@Ranlit_HS @ninaisnoob We are absolutely committed to improving the play experience of all our heroes. We're always looking for feedback on what heroes folks like/dislike (and ideally why) to help guide our focus. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562949728018780162">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Hey Mitchell,

Can Denathrius get the quest rewards that "Needs 2 Minions to be Golden" and the quest that gives you "Two of a minion when you Discover one?"

My chat is theory crafting breaking the entire game ATM. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564668820878401547">None</a>)
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@WatchWaterboy Denathrius can get Pilfered Lamps but he cannot get Secret Sinstone (only a really curated list of heroes can get that one) (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564676238215618561">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell I missed this earlier but thank for the knowledge!

Really enjoying the update (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564775736334077952">None</a>)
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@WatchWaterboy Glad to hear! (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564775980874563585">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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BGs gameplay clarifications for 24.2! 🧵
Patch notes: https://t.co/OvWdr5kvGU

(I will keep updating this thread as much as I can) (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848194677026817">Source</a>)

- Quest difficulty will change based on 1) your hero, 2) available minion types, and 3) its paired Reward
- Some Quest/Reward pairs are banned (e.g. Track the Footprints &amp; Pilfered Lamps)
- Some Rewards are banned for certain heroes (e.g. Snicker Snacks &amp; Shudderwock) (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848196598329345">Source</a>)

- Unlikely Duo can have any 2 minion types from the lobby as its play requirement
- Some Quests/Rewards are more/less common than others (e.g. Unlikely Duo is more likely than any other Quest)
- The ordering check for Sort It All Out happens before any end of turn effects (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848198355750914">Source</a>)

- Tarecgosa will become permanently Golden from Stolen Gold
- Cooked Book upgrades by +1/+1
- Secret Sinstone is only offered to heroes with Discover hero powers (e.g. Elise)
- Another Hidden Body will keep the same Quest and difficulty on future repeats (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848200028852226">Source</a>)

- Ghastly Mask will pick a random (but curated) end of turn minion to give you when you complete it. The difficulty will change based on that minion (e.g. Famished Felbat is harder than Iron Sensei)
- The Stealth from Theotar's Parasol is temporary. The Health buff is permanent. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848201698263041">Source</a>)

- The Friends Along the Way can get any minion type in the lobby. You'll know the type when you pick it, and it won't change after you pick it.
- The Wheel of Yogg-Saron had some changes: https://t.co/xUDBIrNtZw (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848203258507264">Source</a>)

🔮 Wondrous Wisdomball! 🔮
- Whenever you refresh, there is a chance for a lucky(ish) outcome.
- There are 10 possible outcomes. I spoiled one of them on HSBG: https://t.co/r0i70sirAl
- Have fun finding them! I'm not sharing them all for at least a few weeks (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848205338906626">Source</a>)

- Silverback Patriarch was removed because he was too good stats for the cost. My sorrow is immeasurable. 
- Elise will add the Golden Monkey to the shop
- The Golden Monkey is ALWAYS Golden (even if stolen by Murozond/etc.).
- The Golden Monkey gives a triple reward (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848207461584897">Source</a>)

- Golden Monkey is not a Beast
- Rendle the Mistermind is not a typo lol
- Rendle will add the stolen minion to your hand
- Rakanishu's buff is based off the minion you are TARGETING, not your current tavern tier
- Aranna will refill the shop after minions are consumed by Demons (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848209189629953">Source</a>)

- ALL heroes can now exceed 10 Gold. So if you sell a minion at 10 Gold, you will go to 11 Gold instead of wasting it.
- Excluding special effects like Gallywix, you will still start your turn at a cap of 10 Gold (i.e. you won't keep increasing at start of turn once you hit 10) (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562848210799824896">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell Appreciate the first change as it doesn’t make me feel like a dummy anymore when I sell first. 😎

@ben_heathstone I really like the change too. Should make playing just feel a lot smoother (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562856211598704640">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell Will the score be reset to 0 in the new season? The patch content is not written

@wang18286749 If you mean MMR/player rank, it is being reset this patch (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563142891455025153">Source</a>)
 
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- New heroes are no longer early access. You can still get them even if you do not purchase the season pass
- New heroes are guaranteed in every valid lobby for 2 weeks after launch (this rule will be true going forward for future heroes as well) (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564433153262886912">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell What happens if voljin swaps a 0 attack minion and gives it stealth with the new quest reward?

@SorrenEZ There is a check that if all your minions have stealth, they lose stealth (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564631351109746696">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell Did aranna have her 5 roll requirement before getting full shops removed?

@Jkirek_ Nope! She still has to refresh 5 times to get spectral sight (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562856005951983618">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell If you're playing Aranna will the golden Monkey have space to spawn when her hero power is active? And will the golden version that spawns two monkeys make space at tavern tier 6?

@FeefaPointz Elise will make space for the monkey! (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562905425774661634">Source</a>)

@FeefaPointz Well, monkey(s) if you have multiple or a Golden Elise (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562905621401579520">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell Does this mean if you have 2 felbat and a total of 7 demons on board with Aranna, you consume a total of 14 demons always?

@Jeppe15 That is a good question! I'll find out (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563202059016753157">Source</a>)

@Jeppe15 Ok, so right now spectral sight doesn't refill during end of turn triggers. But we consider that a bug and will make it work with Felbat in a future update. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563209061159424009">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell Hypothetically, what tier would Boulderfist Oger be?

@MyntyPhresh S tier (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563006911322066945">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell MONKE was too pure for BG's. RIP

@bofur_hs I'm devastated 😭😭😭 (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1563143049597046786">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell What reward/hero combos are banned? I assume Varden and Lamps, and Shudderwock/Snacks as mentioned. Any others specifically? Would like to know be fore I try to force the impossible. Thanks

@pocky_plays Bannings will absolutely shift as we get live data/make changes, but here are initial bans:

Snicker Snacks: Shudderwock
Ritual Dagger: Bru'kan
Anima Bribe: Gallywix, Millhouse
Cooked Book: Gallywix, Millhouse (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564430340923465728">Source</a>)

@pocky_plays Secret Sinstone: Everyone EXCEPT Tickatus, Silas, Elise, Azshara, Zephrys, Alexstrasza, Cookies, Scabbs
Teal Tiger Sapphire: Gallywix, Millhouse

Varden is currently not banned from Pilfered Lamps. But uh, umm, I, umm, maybe don't expect that forever (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564430785712644097">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Akazamzarak with Secret Sinstone would've been really cool :(

@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays 🤔 (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564433539394899969">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Since akazamzarak reads "discover a secret. put it into the battlefield", it could put a copy of the secret into your hand that you can choose to play later

@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays Oh yeah I understood (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564434685119369218">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Was Galewing added to the list of heroes that can get secret sinstone? Any others?

@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays As of 24.2.2 I don't think we modified any of the possible heroes for Secret Sinstone, but I've made a note to audit the list. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1568276436347125763">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays https://t.co/NlHkoNPUC2

@Jkirek_ @pocky_plays I guess I was wrong and it was added to the list (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569084840900804611">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays it was a secret

@RidiculousHat @LoewenMitchell @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays Why is secret sinstone only available on the heroes who can discover all the time pretty much? Not available to everyone?

@JNytemarePierce @RidiculousHat @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays During testing, it sometimes felt disappointing to get it on a hero without access to discover. There were games where you just couldn't find any triples and it felt like you didn't have a Reward at all. But if you have a hero power that discovers, you can always do something. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569096973483147264">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell @RidiculousHat @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays You didn't list her but I'm going off the assumption that hooktusk also has access to this quest right because of her hero power?

@JNytemarePierce @RidiculousHat @Jkirek_ @pocky_plays Hooktusk's hero power is not a Discover effect, so they cannot get Secret Sinstone (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1569104309492539392">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays There is no Master Nguyen on this Secret Sinstone list. So what happened to the screenshot below that I found on Reddit? https://t.co/22JhYSQjCy

@YesSeven @pocky_plays So it was technically unintended (and adding hero powers to hand is absolutely a bug that is logged), but we're deciding whether Nguyen should keep access to Sinstone (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1570521737523236864">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell @Celestalon @pocky_plays But, but Shudderwock is on the Snicker Snacks. 😔😎 https://t.co/5Yqtx2tGOb

@ben_heathstone @Celestalon @pocky_plays Silly squirrel, Snicker Snacks are for kids!

NO SHUDDERWOCKS!!! (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564436154937708545">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays I think VolJin and Theotar's Parasol will be danger.
he can use new dragon to make 0atk minion. https://t.co/VqwbQeFDys

@sunxiaochuan020 @pocky_plays Should be ok. There's a check that if all your minions have stealth + 0 attack they lose stealth. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564593183488614400">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell @pocky_plays Where will the adjustment to this be announced?

@MinderRoots @pocky_plays I'm not sure. Probably through official channels but I'll just tweet them out too (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564744186447921153">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell @ninaisnoob Once again I LOVE everything about this patch (cough cough expect that one thing but OK no point bitching about it in front of devs)

Good stuff!!!

One thing, a bit sad that Kooky came and now left, but now Chromawing is forever changed, and imho, not as fun as it once was :( https://t.co/ROtaQkeybJ

@Ranlit_HS @ninaisnoob Chromawing is an interesting case! Though Kooky was what finally pushed it over the line, there have been a lot of things we couldn't ship because they were broken alongside Chromawing. Changing Chromawing gives us the space to explore some of those designs in the future. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562949089956102152">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell @ninaisnoob Keep up the good work around “micro-managing” the heroes! Balance is more important than ever.

Love all redesigns so far!

Wish there was option to pay a bit less to get 3 hero choices. I wanna support your work, I just rlly don’t need cosmetics and don’t wanna pay for those :(

@Ranlit_HS @ninaisnoob We are absolutely committed to improving the play experience of all our heroes. We're always looking for feedback on what heroes folks like/dislike (and ideally why) to help guide our focus. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562949728018780162">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell Hey Mitchell,

Can Denathrius get the quest rewards that "Needs 2 Minions to be Golden" and the quest that gives you "Two of a minion when you Discover one?"

My chat is theory crafting breaking the entire game ATM.

@WatchWaterboy Denathrius can get Pilfered Lamps but he cannot get Secret Sinstone (only a really curated list of heroes can get that one) (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564676238215618561">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell I missed this earlier but thank for the knowledge!

Really enjoying the update

@WatchWaterboy Glad to hear! (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1564775980874563585">Source</a>)
 
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