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Would really appreciate if this could get changed to "Play 3 Games" instead. Those, that are getting less than 3 wins in a run are already bleeding a lot of value in the Tavern Brawl and should likely never have entered it. On the plus side, they give a free pack to everyone! 1 https://t.co/oXu4Hpybzs

Would really appreciate if this could get changed to "Play 3 Games" instead. Those, that are getting less than 3 wins in a run are already bleeding a lot of value in the Tavern Brawl and should likely never have entered it. On the plus side, they give a free pack to everyone! 1 https://t.co/oXu4Hpybzs

  • TL_Bunnyhoppor
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
    Would really appreciate if this could get changed to "Play 3 Games" instead. Those, that are getting less than 3 wins in a run are already bleeding a lot of value in the Tavern Brawl and should likely never have entered it. On the plus side, they give a free pack to everyone! 1 https://t.co/oXu4Hpybzs

    • TL_Bunnyhoppor
      Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
      I already feel quite bad emotionally when playing against people that have basic cards (Direwolf) in Heroic Tavern Brawl, because they most likely didn't realize they would get paired with just anyone and are then soon short of gold for the Mini-Set. That is why I don't play it.

      • Chadd Nervigg
        Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
        @TL_Bunnyhoppor Just to throw it out there, please consider the effects on what you describe when things happen to actively break the shark tank (like this).

        • DelayBasedSleep
          Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
          @Celestalon @TL_Bunnyhoppor What exactly is wrong with giving a player a skin for spending 1000 gold to enter the brawliseum? You guys give those out for free all the time, what's wrong with just letting them have essentially a participation award?

          • Chadd Nervigg
            Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
            @DelayBasedSleep @TL_Bunnyhoppor Sorry, perhaps my wording was unclear. "what you describe" was referring to the shark tank effect, not the proposed participation award.

        • CptnKittyHS
          Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
          @Celestalon @TL_Bunnyhoppor Could you elaborate abit more on what 'break the shark tank' means?

          • Chadd Nervigg
            Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
            @CptnKittyHS @TL_Bunnyhoppor Sure. Bunny is talking about the shark tank effect: a situation where the vast majority of people playing a certain mode are high-skill (sharks), and so when a few low-skill players trickle in, they quickly lose to the sharks, have a bad time and leave, leaving only sharks. (1/3)

            • Chadd Nervigg
              Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
              @CptnKittyHS @TL_Bunnyhoppor Bunny's suggestion is to make it so those low-skill players can go in, get their 3 losses, and get out. That gets them the reward, but does nothing to break the shark tank effect. (2/3)

              • Chadd Nervigg
                Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
                @CptnKittyHS @TL_Bunnyhoppor I'm pointing out that the mere fact that this reward exists drastically changes the situation. If you can introduce a whole bunch of new players to the mode, significantly increasing the population of players there, then you no longer have sharks eating every new player. (3/4?)

                • Chadd Nervigg
                  Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
                  @CptnKittyHS @TL_Bunnyhoppor To use a numbers example, if there are 5 sharks there just fighting amongst themselves, they'll eat up 3 new players that come in. But if 100 new players come in all at once, then a few of them may lose a game or two to sharks, but mostly they'll be fighting each other. (4/4)

                  • DruidBrees
                    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
                    @Celestalon @CptnKittyHS @TL_Bunnyhoppor All of these mental gymnastics and Scourge Rager still does not trigger Making Mummies or Jungle Giants. Makes you think

                    • Chadd Nervigg
                      Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
                      @DruidBrees @CptnKittyHS @TL_Bunnyhoppor I hate rewarding bad behavior, but I'll respond to this one: A ton of work has gone into trying to fix Scourge Rager's interactions that you mention, but it's actually a surprisingly difficult problem to solve. Battlecries happen before on-summon effects, and that particular...

                      • Chadd Nervigg
                        Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
                        @DruidBrees @CptnKittyHS @TL_Bunnyhoppor ...Battlecry requires cleaning up the old minion immediately (so that there's room for the Reborn), so it's just no longer there when on-summon triggers would occur. We're working on a solution, it's just a difficult problem technically, not a quick fix.

                  • lunaloveee8
                    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
                    @Celestalon @CptnKittyHS @TL_Bunnyhoppor So is the assertion here that adding a skin reward for 3 wins will bring in enough non sharks that the shark tank effect will be minimized?

                    • Chadd Nervigg
                      Posted 2 years, 10 months ago (Source)
                      @lunaloveee8 @CptnKittyHS @TL_Bunnyhoppor I have no idea if it’s “enough”, but it certainly feels like it should have *some* effect in that direction, yes.
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