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BGs Gameplay Clarifications for 25.6 Patch Notes: https://t.co/if9m2bwKjR As always, I'll try to keep this updated as questions come in.

BGs Gameplay Clarifications for 25.6 Patch Notes: https://t.co/if9m2bwKjR As always, I'll try to keep this updated as questions come in.

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

BGs Gameplay Clarifications for 25.6 Patch Notes: https://t.co/if9m2bwKjR As always, I'll try to keep this updated as questions come in.

AaronCLerner

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Reports in the Discord about a bug with Gold-Gun not making Lava Lurker permanently gold and also not making minions permanently gold when used as the first Spellcraft on Vashj.

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@AaronCLerner Will investigate

AaronCLerner

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Is there a list somewhere of the FoaF buddy pool so that we know what you can't get with ETC? Also, is the Elise Jr. interaction with ETC heropower, the permanent cost reduction, intended? Questions are linked, too. Trying to figure out how consistent it is to get Elise on ETC.

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@AaronCLerner I don't think we have an updated public list since the 22.6 patch notes, but the easy rule for it is if a buddy could be useless or if it calls out a specific hero power, it is not in the pool. Examples include Kael'thas, Cookie, Onyxia, etc. Kragg is also removed.

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@AaronCLerner Jr Navigator interaction is intended. It should permanently reduce your current hero power, but if you then later change your hero power (e.g. Training session) the reduction should not transfer to the new power.

AaronCLerner

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell The zero cost ETC hero power that you can sometimes get seems really, really strong. Probably something worth keeping an eye on (which I'd bet you already are doing and do with pretty much everything that is new to the game).

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@AaronCLerner I'll confirm we have an eye on it lol

Jkirek_

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell @AaronCLerner Currently cariel's buddy is in the pool of buddies ETC can get off heropower, despite specifically referencing Conviction. I'm guessing it's because Captain Fairmount used to be a plain buff, and only now got changed to be a heropower upgrade instead.

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@Jkirek_ @AaronCLerner Yup that's a bug which should be fixed in an upcoming hotfix

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

- ETC's buddy pool is weighted for balance. We'll likely adjust it over time. - If Leeching Felhound would cost less than 3 gold, you'll take less damage. - "Nearest" is similar to across, except that it will adjust target if nothing is directly across.

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

- Sly Raptor cannot summon itself. - Tamuzo's Avenge won't upgrade the tentacle in play (only future ones you summon) - Waxadred takes 1 minion from each opponent. It will copy from ghosts. If an opponent doesn't have a minion, they won't have something in the shop.

SorrenEZ

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Did you forget about hamuul or is it intended to stay?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@SorrenEZ He should be out. Did someone get it?

SorrenEZ

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Oh it just wasn't in the patch notes

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@SorrenEZ Ah gotcha! I'll reach out to make sure the patch notes are updated

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

- Festergut's Undead Creation has the same pool rules as Build-An-Undead - Jr. Navigator only reduces your current hero power. - Burth will carry over upgrades to the Golden version - Choose One now exists in Battlegrounds! They are not battlecries and don't work with Brann

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

- Fairmount's upgrades will persist as Conviction progresses through the ranks. - The change on Brann's Epic Egg is like the change to Y'shaarj we did a while ago.

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

ARMOR - Most armor will range between 5-20. - Armor is now fixed per hero (no more variable tiers) - Armor will be displayed online on the online web collection - Some heroes have different armor at low/high MMR

Jkirek_

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell With regards to some heroes changing armor by mmr: what counts as low/high mmr for armor, and does it change by player or by lobby? If it goes by lobby, is it by the lowest/average/top mmr?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@Jkirek_ The armor is based on the average MMR of the lobby

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

- Shudder is still banned in Beast lobbies - Scoreboard will indicate which heroes have earned buddies.

Jkirek_

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell Is Sly Raptor tierlocked in what it can summon? Convention would say it isn't, because things that only summon in combat and don't add to hand normally aren't, but infinite ghastcoiler/sly raptor loops on tier 3 (tripling/evolving into raptor) scare me.

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@Jkirek_ It is tier locked

obohobo503

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@LoewenMitchell This is all fun but the DC's are pretty unbearable - when can we expect a fix?

Mitchell Loewen

Posted 2 years, 9 months ago (Source)

@obohobo503 It's currently being investigated

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BGs Gameplay Clarifications for 25.6
Patch Notes: https://t.co/if9m2bwKjR
As always, I'll try to keep this updated as questions come in. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688908599197696">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Reports in the Discord about a bug with Gold-Gun not making Lava Lurker permanently gold and also not making minions permanently gold when used as the first Spellcraft on Vashj. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636768028665823235">None</a>)
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@AaronCLerner Will investigate (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636768145078894594">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Is there a list somewhere of the FoaF buddy pool so that we know what you can't get with ETC?

Also, is the Elise Jr. interaction with ETC heropower, the permanent cost reduction, intended?

Questions are linked, too. Trying to figure out how consistent it is to get Elise on ETC. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636369674308038658">None</a>)
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@AaronCLerner I don't think we have an updated public list since the 22.6 patch notes, but the easy rule for it is if a buddy could be useless or if it calls out a specific hero power, it is not in the pool. Examples include Kael'thas, Cookie, Onyxia, etc. Kragg is also removed. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636378330109984768">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@AaronCLerner Jr Navigator interaction is intended. It should permanently reduce your current hero power, but if you then later change your hero power (e.g. Training session) the reduction should not transfer to the new power. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636378714505367552">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell The zero cost ETC hero power that you can sometimes get seems really, really strong.

Probably something worth keeping an eye on (which I'd bet you already are doing and do with pretty much everything that is new to the game). (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636385453741068292">None</a>)
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@AaronCLerner I'll confirm we have an eye on it lol (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636392037342941184">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell @AaronCLerner Currently cariel's buddy is in the pool of buddies ETC can get off heropower, despite specifically referencing Conviction.
I'm guessing it's because Captain Fairmount used to be a plain buff, and only now got changed to be a heropower upgrade instead. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636383123545137153">None</a>)
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@Jkirek_ @AaronCLerner Yup that's a bug which should be fixed in an upcoming hotfix (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636391770371264514">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- ETC's buddy pool is weighted for balance. We'll likely adjust it over time.
- If Leeching Felhound would cost less than 3 gold, you'll take less damage.
- "Nearest" is similar to across, except that it will adjust target if nothing is directly across. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688909794578438">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- Sly Raptor cannot summon itself.
- Tamuzo's Avenge won't upgrade the tentacle in play (only future ones you summon)
- Waxadred takes 1 minion from each opponent. It will copy from ghosts. If an opponent doesn't have a minion, they won't have something in the shop. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688911661047809">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Did you forget about hamuul or is it intended to stay? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635711868122562575">None</a>)
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@SorrenEZ He should be out. Did someone get it? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635713942558498816">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Oh it just wasn't in the patch notes (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635768391137914880">None</a>)
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@SorrenEZ Ah gotcha! I'll reach out to make sure the patch notes are updated (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635769074956505093">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- Festergut's Undead Creation has the same pool rules as Build-An-Undead
- Jr. Navigator only reduces your current hero power.
- Burth will carry over upgrades to the Golden version
- Choose One now exists in Battlegrounds! They are not battlecries and don't work with Brann (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688913296822274">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- Fairmount's upgrades will persist as Conviction progresses through the ranks.
- The change on Brann's Epic Egg is like the change to Y'shaarj we did a while ago. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688914865520640">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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ARMOR
- Most armor will range between 5-20.
- Armor is now fixed per hero (no more variable tiers)
- Armor will be displayed online on the online web collection
- Some heroes have different armor at low/high MMR (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688916455129088">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell With regards to some heroes changing armor by mmr: what counts as low/high mmr for armor, and does it change by player or by lobby? If it goes by lobby, is it by the lowest/average/top mmr? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635696848705814532">None</a>)
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@Jkirek_ The armor is based on the average MMR of the lobby (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635705324798881794">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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- Shudder is still banned in Beast lobbies
- Scoreboard will indicate which heroes have earned buddies. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688918183182336">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell Is Sly Raptor tierlocked in what it can summon? 
Convention would say it isn't, because things that only summon in combat and don't add to hand normally aren't, but infinite ghastcoiler/sly raptor loops on tier 3 (tripling/evolving into raptor) scare me. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635697342438334465">None</a>)
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@Jkirek_ It is tier locked (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635699928730333189">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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@LoewenMitchell This is all fun but the DC's are pretty unbearable - when can we expect a fix? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635763786119368704">None</a>)
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@obohobo503 It's currently being investigated (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635767769206759424">Mitchell Loewen</a>)
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BGs Gameplay Clarifications for 25.6
Patch Notes: https://t.co/if9m2bwKjR
As always, I'll try to keep this updated as questions come in. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688908599197696">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell Reports in the Discord about a bug with Gold-Gun not making Lava Lurker permanently gold and also not making minions permanently gold when used as the first Spellcraft on Vashj.

@AaronCLerner Will investigate (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636768145078894594">Source</a>)
 
 <hr/>

@LoewenMitchell Is there a list somewhere of the FoaF buddy pool so that we know what you can't get with ETC?

Also, is the Elise Jr. interaction with ETC heropower, the permanent cost reduction, intended?

Questions are linked, too. Trying to figure out how consistent it is to get Elise on ETC.

@AaronCLerner I don't think we have an updated public list since the 22.6 patch notes, but the easy rule for it is if a buddy could be useless or if it calls out a specific hero power, it is not in the pool. Examples include Kael'thas, Cookie, Onyxia, etc. Kragg is also removed. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636378330109984768">Source</a>)

@AaronCLerner Jr Navigator interaction is intended. It should permanently reduce your current hero power, but if you then later change your hero power (e.g. Training session) the reduction should not transfer to the new power. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636378714505367552">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell The zero cost ETC hero power that you can sometimes get seems really, really strong.

Probably something worth keeping an eye on (which I'd bet you already are doing and do with pretty much everything that is new to the game).

@AaronCLerner I'll confirm we have an eye on it lol (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636392037342941184">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell @AaronCLerner Currently cariel's buddy is in the pool of buddies ETC can get off heropower, despite specifically referencing Conviction.
I'm guessing it's because Captain Fairmount used to be a plain buff, and only now got changed to be a heropower upgrade instead.

@Jkirek_ @AaronCLerner Yup that's a bug which should be fixed in an upcoming hotfix (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1636391770371264514">Source</a>)
 
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- ETC's buddy pool is weighted for balance. We'll likely adjust it over time.
- If Leeching Felhound would cost less than 3 gold, you'll take less damage.
- "Nearest" is similar to across, except that it will adjust target if nothing is directly across. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688909794578438">Source</a>)

- Sly Raptor cannot summon itself.
- Tamuzo's Avenge won't upgrade the tentacle in play (only future ones you summon)
- Waxadred takes 1 minion from each opponent. It will copy from ghosts. If an opponent doesn't have a minion, they won't have something in the shop. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688911661047809">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell Did you forget about hamuul or is it intended to stay?

@SorrenEZ He should be out. Did someone get it? (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635713942558498816">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell Oh it just wasn't in the patch notes

@SorrenEZ Ah gotcha! I'll reach out to make sure the patch notes are updated (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635769074956505093">Source</a>)
 
 <hr/>

- Festergut's Undead Creation has the same pool rules as Build-An-Undead
- Jr. Navigator only reduces your current hero power.
- Burth will carry over upgrades to the Golden version
- Choose One now exists in Battlegrounds! They are not battlecries and don't work with Brann (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688913296822274">Source</a>)

- Fairmount's upgrades will persist as Conviction progresses through the ranks.
- The change on Brann's Epic Egg is like the change to Y'shaarj we did a while ago. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688914865520640">Source</a>)

ARMOR
- Most armor will range between 5-20.
- Armor is now fixed per hero (no more variable tiers)
- Armor will be displayed online on the online web collection
- Some heroes have different armor at low/high MMR (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688916455129088">Source</a>)

@LoewenMitchell With regards to some heroes changing armor by mmr: what counts as low/high mmr for armor, and does it change by player or by lobby? If it goes by lobby, is it by the lowest/average/top mmr?

@Jkirek_ The armor is based on the average MMR of the lobby (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635705324798881794">Source</a>)
 
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- Shudder is still banned in Beast lobbies
- Scoreboard will indicate which heroes have earned buddies. (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635688918183182336">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell Is Sly Raptor tierlocked in what it can summon? 
Convention would say it isn't, because things that only summon in combat and don't add to hand normally aren't, but infinite ghastcoiler/sly raptor loops on tier 3 (tripling/evolving into raptor) scare me.

@Jkirek_ It is tier locked (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635699928730333189">Source</a>)
 
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@LoewenMitchell This is all fun but the DC's are pretty unbearable - when can we expect a fix?

@obohobo503 It's currently being investigated (<a href="https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635767769206759424">Source</a>)
 
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BGs Gameplay Clarifications for 25.6 Patch Notes: https://t.co/if9m2bwKjR As always, I'll try to keep this updated as questions come in.

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