On the left column is one "season/set", and you can play in any of the three regional Players Tours. But you can only play in one per season/set.
So if you qualify for every regional Player Tour and Players Tour Finals, you can play in three regional Players Tour (of your geographic choice, per season/set) and all three Players Tour Finals.
Hope this helps clarify any potential confusion. Thanks for the question.
The Rivals League will consist of 46 players as follows:
1st–12th ranked digital players (not previously in the MPL)
1st–12th ranked tabletop players (not previously in the MPL)
Bottom 12 players from the MPL Gauntlet
The bottom 4 players from the previous MPL season
6 discretionary invites
Love these changes overall! A few questions I have about the Rivals League and how people fall out/get in. There doesn't seem to be a clearly noted way that people are relegated from Rivals League unless I missed something. Is it implied that each year, the Rivals League will be fully re-filled based on this criteria again? If so, when considering the 24 that are ranked 1-12 digitally and in paper being "not previously in the MPL" does that mean ever? Or just in the previous season?
If Rivals get automatically invited to the Players Tour / Mythic Invitationals, while anyone aiming to get in will have to qualify for each separately, wouldn't it make it very hard for any turnover to occur in the Rivals League, or is the aim to have Rivals League be fairly stable similarly to MPL?
Yes, each year this criteria will be used to re-fill the Rivals League. We expect there will be players who remain in the Rivals League year over year based on performance. Regarding the "not previously in the MPL", this only refers to the previous season.
Your final question gets at the heart of it, the system is designed to promote some stability in the Rivals League, much as it does in the MPL, though we expect a healthy amount of turnover there as well.
Please note, while players in the Rivals League are invited to each regional Players Tour, they are all not invited to each Mythic Invitational. There will be a separate qualifier just for the Rivals League for each of the three Mythic Invitationals.
I see in the article that it says player points will use pro points as a starting basis. I'm interpreting this as players with X pro points start with X player points. I'm hopeful someone on the wotc team can confirm this?
Thanks a bunch! Cool new system!
Grand Prix will award Lifetime Player Points, but they will not apply to seasonal qualifications. Lifetime total Player Points will use Pro Points as a starting basis.
This overall looks great. I'd really like for Hall of Fame members to get automatic invites to the regional Players Tour tournaments. I don't think it would be a major effect, and it would be great to have a venue for semi-retired greats to periodically participate in a top flight tournament. The occasional tournament where a mostly retired player like Kibler or Darwin Kastle or whoever makes a deep run would be great from a viewer's perspective, and with roughly 900 qualifiers for each regional Players Tour season, inviting an extra 30 people or so doesn't seem like a big deal.
All Hall of Fame members are automatically invited to the regional Players Tour.
Last Chance Qualifier winners held the day before Players Tour events
This is listed as one of the criterias for qualifying for the Players Tour. Are all Players Tour events to be held in locations where there is a MagicFest happening the same weekend, as has happened with Mythic Championships this year?
All of the 2020 Players Tour events will happen at MagicFests.
Is there any kind of restriction on eligibility to play in either event? Say JoeSemiPro is already qualified for the Players Tour. Can Joe still play in the next PTQ or WPNQ?
Great question! WPN Qualifiers no, Premier Series yes and PTQs are still being discussed. We'd like an open dialog with the community so please share your thoughts.
What about MPL players, are they restricted to just 3 Player Tours as well? If so this seems like its not the best way to monetize the esports aspect of the game but we shall see.
Correct, MPL players are also restricted to one regional Players Tour per set. However, nobody is restricted to just one Players Tour Final.
So does this mean that my favorite HoF players will only be able to play in 3 PT events per year and that 6 of the other PTs will not have them in the field?
So to be clear there will be no "pro points" replacement for GPs still. Its either go x-2 or bust. With that being the case I really don't see any incentive to play GPs over the side event PTQs at GPs.
We created this system to have many different qualification paths that fit player preferences. If qualifying through GPs aren't for you, that's okay as there are other ways to qualify including side event PTQs and in-store qualifiers.
Pretty happy with the changes. Some interesting stuff to unpack.
SCG Tour, WPN, PTQs, GP top 8 (CFB tour basically) all feed into a REGIONAL PT which then feeds to the big boy PT (unless you straight up win a GP or probably do very, very well in the other events). But it doesn't look like grinding GPs, etc will keep you on any kind of invite train. For that you have to keep doing well at the Regional PTs.
Hall of Famers are now invited to the Regional PTs, not the big once a year PT.
I don't see anything about travel reimbursement which is the key for anyone wanted to try and grind anything.
Regarding travel support, many qualifying events will include organizer provided travel rewards. For specific qualifying events, please check with your tournament organizer.
Does this mean that there’s no way to play in all 3 of your regions pts? Or just that you can’t ever play in more than 3 in a year
You cannot play in more than three per year. Theoretically, you could play in Players Tour Americas in the first set, Players Tour Europe in set two and then Players Tour APAC in set three.
If you're a super amazing awesome MTG player, you can win each one of those and go to all three Players Tour Finals!
So, just to be clear, in a season we will first have (in some order) PT Americas #1, PT Europe #1 and PT APAC #1, all three of which feed into PT Finals #1, and then after PT Finals #1 we get PT Americas #2, PT Europe #2 and PT APAC #2, etc.? Did I get that right, /u/WotC_Clarke ?
This correct, well done. Wanna create a flowchart for us?
Yeah and your not locked to a region so it's more like "play the game, and have a reason to see the world". It does seem like paid flights are definitely gone though. You have to just win enough to afford your own way.
Regarding travel support, many qualifying events will include organizer provided travel rewards. For specific qualifying events, please check with your tournament organizer.
Do you have any information as to how many of these will be allowed/available in a time period? There has literally been one MCQ in 6 months that I can attend without travelling at least 300km and spending hundreds of dollars, and this is in a city of 1.5 million with a very active magic community. In comparison, there used to be 6-10 pptqs in the same time period. This has really stifled competitive play.
While I can't speak specifically on your region, we are doubling the qualification opportunities in this new system.
Paper Magic has way less prizes than what it has before, like less than half since MC are 500k, paper new thing name are from 150k-250k depends where you are. So no real reason to play paper anymore.
It's not quite that simple. For every Mythic Invitational (top-level Arena event) there's three regional Players Tour events and a Players Tour Finals (top-level Arena event). The Mythic Invitational has a prize purse of 750K. The three regional Players Tour events and the Players Tour Finals prize purses add up to 850K, but split over 4 events.
Also, re: travel:
Whilst Players Tour events are regionalized, if you live in one region but want to play in another, you can do that. You are, however, limited to playing in just one regional Players Tour event per Players Tour Finals.
That said, I imagine there aren't any travel accommodations for PTs outside your region. Honestly, I didn't see anything in the article about travel accommodations period, so there's certainly still some validity in your point, but that's also the sort of detail I could see falling under the following clause from the article:
One last important note before we dive in: this is a structural announcement. That means we'll be talking about qualification paths, ways to advance, and what awaits you when you do advance. Additional details like formats, dates, coverage, and more specifics will be available for individual events later.
Regarding travel support, many qualifying events will include organizer provided travel rewards. For specific qualifying events, please check with your tournament organizer.
Maybe it is named in the article but something about not seeing the forest trough the trees: will paper magic have camera coverage at high levels still? Or will only arena get coverage?
All regional Players Tours, Players Tour Finals, Mythic Invitationals and the World Championship will have video coverage.
There are scattered comments about coverage in here for PTs and stuff, but is there any way to get an overview of which events will have video coverage and which won’t?
All regional Players Tours, Players Tour Finals, Mythic Invitationals and the World Championship will have video coverage.
Does only being able to compete in one Players Tour event mean one per season (like it says in the article, but could be a typo), so in one out of nine events, or one per 3-PT-events-cycle, so in three out of nine events?
Is the same true for MPL and/or Rivals League players? If not, what is true?
The latter - you can participate in up to three in a twelve month period.
Is there any confirmation on the status of mcq's (I guess PTQ's now again) for GP's like Ghent, which had their mcq's removed from the schedule? Really hoping there will be qualifying side-events there.
There will be qualifying events at MagicFest Ghent which will qualify for the Players Tour.
So...what, if anything, does this mean for typical GPs, which weren't always Standard events?
Does this more or less make it impossible for there to be a "Mythic Championship", a.k.a. "Pro Tour" level event that's ever dedicated to Modern again?
GPs will continue to be various formats, that remains unchanged.
We're not ready to share specific details yet, but not all Players Tour events will be Standard only.
This is perfect, considering that my work schedule is rather rigid, because it would give me the option to decide which event to play based on when I can get the weekend off. Thanks for replying.
I know this wasn't a coverage announcement but i do wish there was some announcement on getting GP coverage back. Even when I wasn't playing events it's nice to have an event to tune into during a given weekend. I prefer watching paper to online magic for tournaments personally. There's more skill to follow bluffs and read body language in paper that you lose on a computer.
The good news is that elsewhere in this thread /u/WotC_Clarke mentioned that all 9 Regional Players Tour events will have video coverage, and I assume that means the Players Tour Finals will as well, so that's at least 12 high-level paper events per year.
How big do independent events need to be to qualify as premier series events and earn qualification paths to the Players Tour? You mention two but that you want to expand. If a big Magic city had an annual city-wide tournament event sponsored by multiple WPN stores, with enough participation and a big enough prize pool, could that get big enough to qualify?
That is something that could qualify as a premier event, and we will be announcing application details at a later time with the first event starting in 2020.
Players Tour Americas?
So, outside US, probably one or zero of these events per year, isn't it?
Why not making Players Tour divided per region (North/South/Central America)? It's impossible to qualify for these and need to travel to USA without travel awards!
We’ve built a tabletop system that is scalable with player growth, which means that as regions like South America continue to grow, it is certainly possible that we could add additional Players Tours for those regions. In the meantime, locally organized premier series events, like the Latam Magic Series from Bazar de Bagda (https://www.facebook.com/BNTMtG/posts/348155959462946?__tn__=K-R), will offer travel support in addition to qualification.
The article mentions that you can attend any Players Tour, but only one per cycle. Does that mean that if I Top 8 a GP, I could choose to play the next Players Tour in Europe, Americas or APAC or is the qualification already linked to a specific region's PT? And are the three events (always?) going to be on the same weekend?
For the first part of your question, yes, you can choose which regional Players Tour event to play in. If you live in Europe and want to play in APAC, go for it.
The three events will not necessarily be during the same weekend, but will all be grouped closely together.
I guess no details as to when (and how) SCG tour events will give an invite? I'm going to assume it's just the actual winner of opens, if that, and if not tied to only invitationals? Asking because I may add some SCG events to my travel schedule.
This will start in 2020, and SCG will announce the details.
This is definitely better than the current system and probably better than the old system? Time will tell but it seems positive and gives really clear lines as to who gets MPL and who doesn't.
The only thing that I'm not quite sure on are the WPN qualifiers - these feel like PPTQs but with a direct slot to PTs? Are they going to be offered to a lot of stores or just ones closer to the old Advanced Plus? /u/wotc_rachel/u/WotC_Clarke
I know there's more info to come but I felt like most of the rest of the announcement made sense at first reading - this is the only bit I feel like I need clearing up
Some of the confusion is coming with the history of the word "regional". These qualifiers qualify players for the Regional Players Tour, which are premier events with an average prize pool of $200,000.00. WPN Premium Stores will be given priority, but qualifiers will not be exclusive to Premium Stores.
Is the Rival player just elevated for the rest of the season, and their Rivals + MPL performances are used as criteria for the next season's placement?
Yes they are elevated for the rest of the season. This will be handled on a case by case basis depending on when they enter the MPL in the season.
Looks like PPTQs/RPTQs are back in the menu! with another name this time. Or are they just PTQs? i'm a bit confused..
They are just PTQs, there are no RPTQs. The regional events are premiere level events with prize pools of an average of $200,000.00. These events will also have coverage and will award Player's Points.
So, as a competitive paper player, what's the timeframe for relevant events to resume? The "players tour" qualifiers, etc; the basic timeline of the article seems to have things really converting over around mid-2020; at what point will I be able to attend a 'players tour qualifier'?
You can begin qualifying for the Players Tour as early as MagicFest Ghent, September 13th. There will also be in-store qualifiers immediately after that.
Also, top performers at MCVII (Richmond) will qualify for the February Players Tour events.
What happens when someone leaves or is removed from the MPL midseason?
Is their spot vacant until filled at the usual time, or does wotc just pick someone?
Similarly, what if it's someone who would normally keep their slot? Assuming we fill at usual times, which feeding event gets the extra slot?
If someone leaves the MPL they are replaced immediately by someone from the Rivals League at the MPL's discretion. If someone leaves the Rivals League, they are not replaced until the regular promotion cadence.
I think this also should answer your second question, but if not please let me know.
I see in the article that it says player points will use pro points as a starting basis. I'm interpreting this as players with X pro points start with X player points. I'm hopeful someone on the wotc team can confirm this?
Here's something I'm curious to know. Since this new "Player's Tour" is supposed to be the reincarnation of the old Pro Tour, will the Player's Tour receive live coverage? Will it be streamed? Will it have live text coverage? Or, will it just be like the old RPTQ's, not have any live coverage, and the winning decklists will eventually just get posted somewhere?
Personally, I hope they stream these events and give them that "Pro Tour" excitement and feel.
The regional Players Tour events and the Players Tour Finals will all have video coverage. We'll have more details as we get closer to those events.
Wizards Clarke
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There seems to be some confusion here, so I'll link this tweet/infographic for reference - https://twitter.com/MagicEsports/status/1161653779546030080
On the left column is one "season/set", and you can play in any of the three regional Players Tours. But you can only play in one per season/set.
So if you qualify for every regional Player Tour and Players Tour Finals, you can play in three regional Players Tour (of your geographic choice, per season/set) and all three Players Tour Finals.
Hope this helps clarify any potential confusion. Thanks for the question.
Wizards Clarke
The new Premier Series is a perfect fit for something like this, but we're not ready to announce any specific events yet.
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Yes, each year this criteria will be used to re-fill the Rivals League. We expect there will be players who remain in the Rivals League year over year based on performance. Regarding the "not previously in the MPL", this only refers to the previous season.
Your final question gets at the heart of it, the system is designed to promote some stability in the Rivals League, much as it does in the MPL, though we expect a healthy amount of turnover there as well.
Please note, while players in the Rivals League are invited to each regional Players Tour, they are all not invited to each Mythic Invitational. There will be a separate qualifier just for the Rivals League for each of the three Mythic Invitationals.
Wizards Clarke
Grand Prix will award Lifetime Player Points, but they will not apply to seasonal qualifications. Lifetime total Player Points will use Pro Points as a starting basis.
Wizards Clarke
Affirmative!
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All Hall of Fame members are automatically invited to the regional Players Tour.
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All of the 2020 Players Tour events will happen at MagicFests.
Wizards Clarke
Great question! WPN Qualifiers no, Premier Series yes and PTQs are still being discussed. We'd like an open dialog with the community so please share your thoughts.
Wizards Clarke
They cannot be the same event.
Wizards Clarke
Correct, MPL players are also restricted to one regional Players Tour per set. However, nobody is restricted to just one Players Tour Final.
Wizards Clarke
This is correct
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We created this system to have many different qualification paths that fit player preferences. If qualifying through GPs aren't for you, that's okay as there are other ways to qualify including side event PTQs and in-store qualifiers.
Wizards Clarke
Regarding travel support, many qualifying events will include organizer provided travel rewards. For specific qualifying events, please check with your tournament organizer.
Wizards Clarke
These events have not been scheduled yet, but as they are scheduled you will be able to find them at locator.wizards.com.
Wizards Clarke
You cannot play in more than three per year. Theoretically, you could play in Players Tour Americas in the first set, Players Tour Europe in set two and then Players Tour APAC in set three.
If you're a super amazing awesome MTG player, you can win each one of those and go to all three Players Tour Finals!
Wizards Clarke
This correct, well done. Wanna create a flowchart for us?
Wizards Clarke
Regarding travel support, many qualifying events will include organizer provided travel rewards. For specific qualifying events, please check with your tournament organizer.
Wizards Clarke
While I can't speak specifically on your region, we are doubling the qualification opportunities in this new system.
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Regarding travel support, many qualifying events will include organizer provided travel rewards. For specific qualifying events, please check with your tournament organizer.
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flowcharts!
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All regional Players Tours, Players Tour Finals, Mythic Invitationals and the World Championship will have video coverage.
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All regional Players Tours, Players Tour Finals, Mythic Invitationals and the World Championship will have video coverage.
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WPN Premium stores will have priority, but the events will not be exclusive to Premium.
Wizards Clarke
GP Ghent - Portland will qualify you for the first Players Tour in 2020.
Wizards Clarke
There will be qualifying events at MagicFest Ghent which will qualify for the Players Tour.
Wizards Clarke
GPs will continue to be various formats, that remains unchanged.
We're not ready to share specific details yet, but not all Players Tour events will be Standard only.
Wizards Clarke
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This is correct.
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That is something that could qualify as a premier event, and we will be announcing application details at a later time with the first event starting in 2020.
Wizards Clarke
We’ve built a tabletop system that is scalable with player growth, which means that as regions like South America continue to grow, it is certainly possible that we could add additional Players Tours for those regions. In the meantime, locally organized premier series events, like the Latam Magic Series from Bazar de Bagda (https://www.facebook.com/BNTMtG/posts/348155959462946?__tn__=K-R), will offer travel support in addition to qualification.
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Yes!
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For the first part of your question, yes, you can choose which regional Players Tour event to play in. If you live in Europe and want to play in APAC, go for it.
The three events will not necessarily be during the same weekend, but will all be grouped closely together.
Wizards Clarke
This will start in 2020, and SCG will announce the details.
Wizards Clarke
Some of the confusion is coming with the history of the word "regional". These qualifiers qualify players for the Regional Players Tour, which are premier events with an average prize pool of $200,000.00. WPN Premium Stores will be given priority, but qualifiers will not be exclusive to Premium Stores.
Wizards Clarke
Yes they are elevated for the rest of the season. This will be handled on a case by case basis depending on when they enter the MPL in the season.
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You can do it! Believe in yourself!
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They are just PTQs, there are no RPTQs. The regional events are premiere level events with prize pools of an average of $200,000.00. These events will also have coverage and will award Player's Points.
Wizards Clarke
You can begin qualifying for the Players Tour as early as MagicFest Ghent, September 13th. There will also be in-store qualifiers immediately after that.
Also, top performers at MCVII (Richmond) will qualify for the February Players Tour events.
Wizards Clarke
If someone leaves the MPL they are replaced immediately by someone from the Rivals League at the MPL's discretion. If someone leaves the Rivals League, they are not replaced until the regular promotion cadence.
I think this also should answer your second question, but if not please let me know.
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This is true for lifetime points, yes.
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The regional Players Tour events and the Players Tour Finals will all have video coverage. We'll have more details as we get closer to those events.
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Wily Edel has some of the initial details available here!
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