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Anybody else actually a big fan of LFR?

A bit of background: I raided very lightly in TBC (I wouldn't say I "raided" as such, but I dipped into them once or twice), pretty much weekly throughout WotLK and have been 10-manning with my guild and assorted friends throughout Cataclysm (generally normal with the occasional heroic). I'm by no means hardcore or above average as regular raiding players go, but I have a reasonable amount of experience.

LFR appeared just over a week ago, and a lot of people immediately leapt on Blizzard's back over the tuning of the boss fights. I can't disagree with anyone on this; they're barely half as challenging compared to normal mode, even with a group full of proper idiots, but still require a degree of attention paid (particularly some of the harder fights, e.g. Madness). This said, I'm loving it. Finally, raiding can be something anyone can enjoy, without the need for the stress and pressure that can come with normal progression.

I'm still hitting 10man DS on a weekly basis with my main, but I'm enjoying the party atmosphere of a LFR with alts even more.

Honestly, good job, Blizzard. You got this one spot on.

  • Devolore
    Posted 14 years ago (Source)

    Regarding your first point, however...

    Currently there's a decent chunk of fairly experienced raiders going into LFR in order to get upgrades for those 378 pieces they never replaced and/or get their T13 bonuses. As those people begin to cap VP without LFR and no longer have upgrades available from it, they will stop going.

    my point was that yes, that will happen, and it doesn't matter, because at that point the people who currently have no idea what they're doing will know all the fights just as well as the experienced people do now.

  • Devolore
    Posted 14 years ago (Source)

    As I pointed out in an earlier thread, the LFR is good for the time being because the only people geared up enough to meet the minimum ilvl requirement are people who geared up in Firelands and hence are used to raid environments, all sorts of different mechanics, and paying attention to their surroundings. Also given how the bosses are nerfed and that 25man is easier than 10man because there is room for inadequacy and subpar performance, of course it isn't bad when you have experienced people.

    However, once less experienced, more casual players get in via gear they bought with JP and acquired drops from the new 5-mans, LFR groups will probably go down in quality.

    I disagree, for two reasons.

    1: It's not going to be a sudden wave of derp hitting the LFR, the inexperienced players will slowly mix in with the people with raid experience. So, by the time none of the people with prior raid experience are hitting LFR anymore, there'll be plenty of people who have already spent a bunch of time in LFR to make up for it.

    2: A lot of the issues currently are due to people not understanding the new fights. As time goes on, certain strategies will become kind of accepted, and instead of 20 people doing god knows what while 5 of us try to explain things via raid chat midfight, it'll be 20 people doing things right while the 5 who have never seen the fight before get carried. You could see this even over just the past week on Yor'sahj -- day 1, nobody knew what to do and you were almost guaranteed a wipe or two while people got a sense for where things were going to spawn, what to kill, and so forth. When I did it again Monday night, half the raid was moving to the correct slime before anyone had even said it.

  • Devolore
    Posted 14 years ago (Source)

    I am hopelessly addicted to the raid finder. Even though it frustrates me to no end when a Paladin wins the Agility polearm over my Hunter because Blizzard's loot system is retarded and I JUST ROLL NEED ON EVERYTHING LOL, I now have 5 -- soon to be 6 -- characters clearing LFR on a weekly basis.

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