I always felt like the token was quite overloaded, 1 mana 10 points of stats is quite wild. The thing is, it is easy to get them, they are good in tempo and they are cheap. Aren't they quite overtuned?

Here's all the new Noxus cards for you guys! Video here: Noxus Cards Spoiled

Pics are below too - but what's everyone think of how Swain is like 7 cards in one!? I'm not really sure what to make of him just yet....

who can it be? does anyone have a clue?

appearantly its no rogue. maybe the mage "celeste"?

hi guys, 

when will the new secrets be included in the secret-preview of the deck tracker?

i stumbled over this more often than i like to admit.

Highlander Maly OTK Druid

Wild · Highlander Druid · by Dandalf · 6 years ago

• 0 Innervate x 1
• 0 Moonfire x 1
• 1 Crystal Power x 1
• 1 Untapped Potential x 1
• 1 Worthy Expedition x 1
• 2 Bloodmage Thalnos x 1
• 2 Keeper Stalladris x 1
• 2 Licensed Adventurer x 1
• 2 Questing Explorer x 1
• 2 Rising Winds x 1
• 2 Steel Beetle x 1
• 2 Wrath x 1
• 2 Zephrys the Great x 1
• 3 BEEEES!!! x 1
• 3 Bogbeam x 1
• 3 Imprisoned Satyr x 1
• 3 Swipe x 1
• 4 Escaped Manasaber x 1
• 4 Germination x 1
• 4 Keeper of the Grove x 1
• 4 Overgrowth x 1
• 4 Sky Gen'ral Kragg x 1
• 5 Anubisath Defender x 1
• 5 Elise the Enlightened x 1
• 5 Nourish x 1
• 5 Oasis Surger x 1
• 5 Starfall x 1
• 6 Hidden Oasis x 1
• 7 Overflow x 1
• 9 Malygos x 1

13,260 Dust 1,390 2 Copy Deck Code

Thoughts and feedback are greatly appreciated :)

So the title may be confusing but it's kinda relevant, and I thought it'd be funny to use a song lyric from one of the old Tom n Jerry episodes I recall...

Anyhow,  here's my dilemma.  I was a young 20 something back when WoW originally released.  Played it from Vanilla---> Wrath of the Lich King.  Quit shortly into Wrath due to feeling like I was lost in the game at times, and after taking a break felt so far behind that I could "never catch up".  

Fast forward through the last 16 years.  I ended up playing vanilla, BC, and wrath private servers for small stints here and there, before they inevitably died out due to propaganda from competing private servers or due to C&D orders (i.e. shut down). 

As of 2019, played classic wow at it's re-release (re-launch?) with a friend.  I was the one to convince him to play.  Then in December of 2019 had some person issues I had to take care of and deemed it was necessary to cancel my sub and take a break for awhile.  Now here we are.  Friend is wondering if I'll ever come back.  He isn't pressuring me, but I told him I'd been thinking about it the past few months.

The problem: I don't really like classic wow.  Yes I enjoy it more than say current wow.  But if I'm being truthful, the class balance, itemization, etc was horrible in vanilla.  I don't want the super-heroes of modern wow where every player is the savior of the alliance/horde and can swarms of enemies with a snap of their fingers...but I also don't want vanilla wow where itemization is crap, your player looks like Joker on laundry day, and all that.  

The problem part 2: My favorite expansion is BC.  I love the theme, the atmosphere, the quality of life updates, the flying mounts, the gear. Everything.  Everything in BC was just way better.  Ultimately I was honest with myself and the only reason I played Classic WoW and encouraged my friend to play it, was in the hopes that some day Blizzard would release "Classic BC" and I'd be able to relive that time period again.  

The thing is...We are at LEAST 1 year away, if not longer....before that is a even a smidge of a reality.  And I'm growing bored with the games I'm playing (Teamfight Tactics, Legends of Runeterra, Hearthstone, some Diablo3 here and there...)

The problem part3:  Part of the reason I took a break from classic wow in December was because of job issues and stability in my relationship.  Both have been resolved now and things are much better...but now I'm afraid that the one thing that enticed me (raiding, doing dungeons, etc....waiting for BC) isn't actually feasible.  

Even if I don't raid (a 2-4 hour commitment once or twice a week) dungeons in Vanilla don't hold the same attention as BC.  Secondly,  I thought well I could farm gold, just casually do dungeons, level alts, etc in the meantime but there's not a ton of fun replayability just dungeoning in vanilla for me over and over again on multiple alts.  Lastly my favorite class was a Blood Elf paladin, so leveling alts doesn't do much for me because my main in BC is gonna have to be re-rolled/start fresh as it is.  

So my conundrum is: Should I even try to play classic WoW in the hopes that BC Classic ever comes around?  Am I living too much in the past (I guess you could say others who play classic are living in the past as well...)  Just looking for some advice on what to do, and how to move forward being a 30-something person and realizing that I can't necessarily commit the same amount of time that I used to when I was 20, and not sure how to enjoy WoW when the one thing in WoW I really enjoyed but hated the extensive time commitment to was raiding...

Thanks in advance!

So I was just checking by Hearthpwn, because it's funny to read the cesspool of comments you find there, and I stumbled upon this interesting piece of info

So....basically we'll get a new Rogue hero eventually (obviously we do, but it's good to have confirmation) but the hint eludes me.

Are they referring to the fact that they'll use an existing Legendary and turn it into a Rogue skin? (given that we're now getting previous Heros as minions it wouldn't be too far fetched).

Odds are we're getting a male character, seeing how we already have two females, although I honestly would love to see Vanessa vanCleef as a skin.

If they do pick an existing legendary, which one would it even be? I genuinely can't think of a single Rogue legendary that's memorable enough to actually serve as a skin (outside of Edwin, but I doubt they'd ever pick him). Xaril would be hilarious, but I don't think they even remember he exists.

Any ideas?

Hey folks,

New patch is out and there were many reasonable changes made which tuned down bannerman and fearsome spiders quite decently.

While I like that the meta is changing I encountered a sort of aggro deck that I have no clue how to stop:

Ephemeral burn (SI + P&Z) with Kalista and Hecarim as the Champions.

Since Kalista got buffed it is laughable easy for ephemeral decks to level her right when she is played using Haunted Relic, Shark Chariot, Used Cask Salesman or simply Hecarim and once you have flipped her she and hecarim spawn free ephemerals on attack who feed nicely into their Phantom Prankster

If you think that this sounds already quite hard to stop i got to remind you that this deck also has Mystic Shot and Get Excited! to finish you WHILE also having always the option to blow up the board with The Ruination since they dont really have a board to loose

I personally dont see a way to control this deck and it seems to me that you only can rush that deck down

I might oversee a way to stop that but thats why I'm asking you folks

https://imgur.com/a/VHARC78

This was leaked from the polish Runeterra Facebook page (according to a reddit user). I'm pretty sure its real, just because it would be too difficult for someone to make all of this art just to create a fake leak. 

Im new. Im a silver 5 player. I wanted to rank up at least to gold rank. Im using warlock zoo but it seems its not that good right now. Im playing standard. Is it me or is warlock decks are kinda weak at this current meta. Sorry this is probably nothing new to you guys. Hehe

In the Ungoro Expansion Guide, the image of the Maiev Shadowsong hero portrait is now a golden Maiev Shadowsong instead. I'm sure this happened in a lot of places where the portrait image was posted. 

Everyone complaining about how there is no counter to elusive units and how the game is ruined by an "uninteresting mechanic," then threaten to quit and uninstall the game. Go do it then lol.

The issue isn't with Elusives, the issue is with your inability to understand that more likely you'll be fighting elusives and will need counter cards. So many people are currently hopping on the Bannerman express because of its round 4 power spike, and yet they complain that all the power and health in the world can't stop an Ionia deck. Guess what, YOU'RE RIGHT. What good is that when you are getting bodied by a Solitary Monk with Stand Alone and by Shadow Assassins?

So now you been known that power and health alone don't counter elusive attacks. Well you know what does, that is commonly found in every goddamn Bannerman deck? CHALLENGER UNITS, SINGLE COMBAT, and PURIFY. WOW! How many Fleet Feathertrackers (challenger) have I went against, paired with War Chefs or Laurent Chevalier (also challenger btw). You can (oh my god) CHALLENGE the elusives in battle and force them to defend!
Oh what? The enemy had enough mana for Twin Disciples or variant of a Barrier spell? Well if you were smart enough to perceive it, you should have Purify to nullify EVERYTHING.

Another fun factoid is that you can counter elusives with OTHER elusives. And Frostbite. And Vengeance. And Drain. And Noxus Guillotine. And simply having a spread out board so that they will have to defend against something or take hella damage/lethal. 

elusive is un-interactive and boring, and everyone knows it.  also shadow assassin would be fine as a 3 mana 2/2 that draws a card. u have added elusive to it as if elusive is worth 0 mana. are you stupid? are you insane? fix this garbage... thx

...for I have sinned. I have given into the temptation and dealt with Demon (Hunters). I could not resist the siren song of Legend and the promise of a free Classic Legendary, so I did the unspeakable and steamrolled from Diamond 5 to Legend with only 20 wins.

Appropriately I was rewarded with King Mukla like the disgusting Ape I am. BUt alas, I am free from the pressure of ever having to reach Legend again and can now focus on what is truly important in life....pretending like I actually know how to build decks and then claim I found a new way to game the meta.

So anyways, how's your climb going? I got really lucky I guess, because I only ran into a single Galakrond Warlock and only two Priests (one of which I even beat....barely). Tempo DH is pretty disgusting and I honestly can't see the staying this way forever. At some point Battlefiend will have to be nerfed, it's ridiculous how hard that thing takes games from turn 1. It's like Pirate Warrior all over again.

Does anyone know if we're getting an event this year?  I can't seem to find anything current. 

Hey guys,

I've been wondering, can you get golden cards (randomly of course) from the ranked rewards, like packs? Or are they guaranteed to be the regular version?

If yes, mind sharing the source regarding the info?

Thanks! 

I know Runeterra is not currently as popular as HS, not in this site and not yet in general, but I think it would help if there was a dedicated thread for initially every bunch of cards reveal and maybe later every card like in hearthstone? it might make the game more popular on the site or in general bring more discussion.

If anything I am asking you what are your plans on the spoiler season for Runeterra?

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Got all the cards spoiled today again for you guys! Here's a video reviewing them as well: Spoiler Review

But what I really wanna know is - who else is excited to cook up some sweet mill deck strategies!? What's your thoughts on Maokai's overall design? 

Since there is no dedicated reveal thread for every card, cause the game is not as popular yet ( :( )

I want to disscuss the new cards revealed they don't seem as strong as previous cards but I think they are worth discussing.

Maokai - I already mentioned it in the article comments but he isn't playable by itself, making a 2/1 ethereal challenger for 4 mana AND summoning another unit is really weak also being a 1/4.. guess he is like heimer a champion that never attack and is a generator of sort.. but turrets for every spells is probably much much better than  a 2/1 challenger once every turn.

Also I am not that big of a believer in his effect you need to wait 4 turns for your opponent to lose, most games don't get to 10 mana anyway..

also I think tossing or killing your units 25 times is a LOT and it's certainly not easy, so dunno it comes online quite late but if you play a full controll/fatigue deck.. alright I guess. I see a potential synergy with hecarim though so who knows.. maybe he is good enough as he takes around 2 turns to really pay for itself tempowise.. at least it can block and you wouldn't feel too bad about playing him defensively as contrary to heimer.

Sap Magic- not sure really 3 mana heal everything 3 for 3 cards you would never draw anyway seems good for a fatigue deck, maybe also other decks looking for healing, healling your units is very niche in hs such effect costs 2 and heals for 6 in priest, I think that if you are not looking at tossing as an upside then this card is not worth running.

Thorny Toad - a 1/4 statline for 2 is very defensive can save you quite a lot of time looking for those removal options, specially with the heal for 2, which I think is fine in maokai decks, this probably fits such builds

Deadbloom Wanderer - a 3/2 lifesteal for 3 in hs it's garbage but here most of the time units do trade.. a 2/2 lifesteal for 3 is not that great, but one attack is probably important cause of fearsome and the 3 hp breakpoints. also toss archtype who knows..

Overgrown Snapvine - now I think this card is really interesting but VERY costly, it can create a lot of copies of itself summoning spiders.. also enable death triggers I can't wait to build around this card seems really fun.. but is it good? nah probably not.. costs too much but certainly good in sacrificial decks.

Hi all

This new matchmaking system takes some getting used to!

Not played much on my NA account this month, so thought would play a few bronze/silver games for fun.  I know things have changed so your MMR is the basis for matchups while you have star bonus, though I've not been able to see the rank of my opponents during games.

Added a friend after a long game (I lost), and was interested to see what the differences in ranks were.  I was silver 8 - he was Legend 68.  He of course won't have a star bonus and at Legend is presumably matched via MMR as well same as me.

Working as intended I am sure, but basing matchups only on MMR leads to some surprising matchups :)  I was only Rank 5 last season on NA (60% winrate 15-10).

I totally understand that with everyone resetting to Bronze 10 each season, you don't want Legend players crushing lower skill players and that's fair enough. 

Presumably:

- at my current Silver rank and facing high Legend players, I'm actually going to have "easier" matchups once I climb to somewhere in Diamond, lose my star bonus and face opponents based on Rank?

- I can't face high diamond players who are not matched via MMR if they don't have star bonus anymore?

Do I understand that right or have a got things wrong here?

Oh well, off to play more top 100 Legend players from the bottom of Silver :P

Dragon Burst Shaman

Wild · Malygos Shaman · by Dandalf · 6 years ago

• 1 Earth Shock x 1
• 1 Lightning Bolt x 2
• 1 Sludge Slurper x 2
• 2 Faerie Dragon x 2
• 2 Rockbiter Weapon x 2
• 3 Lady Vashj x 1
• 3 Lava Burst x 2
• 3 Lightning Breath x 2
• 3 Mana Tide Totem x 1
• 3 Plague of Murlocs x 2
• 3 Serpentshrine Portal x 2
• 4 Evasive Feywing x 2
• 4 Squallhunter x 2
• 5 Cobalt Spellkin x 2
• 5 Cumulo-Maximus x 2
• 5 Doomhammer x 2
• 9 Malygos x 1

6,940 Dust 1,963 0 Copy Deck Code

Can someone try this?

The "Site News" link in the breadcrumbs menu 404s

https://outof.cards/site-news/1156-the-out-of-cards-great-egg-hunt-of-2020

Links to https://outof.cards/site-news/

I'm thinking about crafting Zixor, Apex Predator for a variation of Dragon Hunter with Scavenger Ingenuity (tutor for Phase Stalkers too). Has anyone tried it, does it feel like a strong improvement on the original deck?

Hi everyone,

Apologies if this is old news but, I just found out that the HS Podcast that used to be called Omni/Stone is back!  Working title is Untitled/Stone ;D

I really liked the old content and it sounds like they'll be broadcasting monthly on Kibler's channel until they can get a regular sponsor (enjoyed the natural ad read for Nord VPN, haha).

Frodan also gives OoC a shoutout near the start of the show so you know he's a man of culture :)