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Just a quick question (since I couldn't find the answer on the forum)...

The "Your cost" field in the deck view – what are the plans? When will we see the function, how will it work?

This is, in my opinion, the most important feature on a hearthstone deck site. It is the biggest reason why I use hearthpwn and if outof.cards gets a similar function I'll definitely use the site more.

Hey.

What's the go with people spamming the WOW button, or the Well Played button after every single card I play?

They are also the ones that usually end up losing the match 99% of the time.

Are they former COD players and this is their version of smack talk?

It seems so odd to me.

Hi!

Will we get the "Top Budget Decks" section on outof.cards? I LOVED it on Hearthpwn, it helped me progress a lot during my early days of Hearthstone 😊

This may come off as a rant but I'm a little tired of Mech Warrior still being so proliferate as it is.  It's just not fun when they get Boom on curve and then proceed to just grind out the rest of the game with constant nearly infinite answers.  Nerfing Archivist to 9 mana didn't change much.  All it did was force warriors who get the coin to just hold onto it.

As for Dr Boom Mad Genius himself.  I honestly don't see how he wasn't hit with the recent nerfs a few weeks ago.  Not only that but it restricts design space and balance for the next 2 expansions this year for any neutral or warrior mechs releases, since they have to assume rush will be in play when that mech is used in warrior decks, thus lowering the power of any possible neutral mechs in the future.

My proposal is simple:  Warriors are a control class, but they don't need a passive RUSH mechanic given to every mech they play the rest of the game.  An easy, simple, elegant solution is to take away the passive of Dr Boom (No more rush) which forces warriors to play more proactively.  The hero power can stay roughly the same as it was with ONE exception.

Since my suggestion would take away the passive of ALL mechs the warrior plays no longer having rush I would suggest that the hero power Micro Squad be given rush instead.  That way warriors can still magnetize onto them and have rush in a RNG fashion, which fits in with Dr Boom's theme of being "random and crazy".

Sorry if this comes off as a rant.  It probably is in retrospect.  I'm just tired of facing them game after game.  Sure I can win against them sometimes, but that doesn't negate the fact that the card as it stands is overly oppressive in the meta.  

I will post more decks another day.

Fill & Mill

Wild · Burn Mage · by zznq · 7 years, 3 months ago

• 0 Elemental Evocation x 1
• 1 Magic Trick x 2
• 1 Mirror Image x 2
• 1 Raid the Sky Temple x 1
• 1 Ray of Frost x 2
• 2 Baleful Banker x 2
• 2 Book of Specters x 2
• 2 Lorewalker Cho x 1
• 2 Magic Dart Frog x 2
• 2 Mana Cyclone x 2
• 2 Research Project x 2
• 2 Sorcerer's Apprentice x 2
• 3 Arcane Intellect x 2
• 3 Augmented Elekk x 1
• 3 Dune Sculptor x 2
• 5 Giggling Inventor x 2
• 5 Zilliax x 1
• 8 Archivist Elysiana x 1

10,160 Dust 3,742 4 Copy Deck Code

Hakkar is an interesting idea with this.

See this screenshot:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/qaKRtXBq7wDxjddY8

I can't scroll further down, there is no way to access Forum>Members or the Pack Giveaway section, they remain below the fold. If I click Forums again in an attempt to to collapse the menu item, instead it takes me to the forum page.

I think there are some solutions, including:

• Allow scrolling further down
• Allow collapsing menu items
• Disallow expanding menu items (on mobile)

Not to be confused with "cardimg gold" script, which I'm aware of. Let's say I want to show Pyros. It shows normal. However, I can't show its golden version with "cardgold" or "card gold" script. So, I will ask: Isn't this feature implemented or is there a way to show golden card thumbnail within words?

I will clarify what I meant by that: If you remember well, on Hearthpwn, we used to access Mana Curve/Cards first, followed by Guide Editor where you can write a guide/name the archetype and such. In OutofCards, they are separated by two buttons. What if they are merged under "Edit" button so that we can switch between sections with the help of toggles? Rather than saving each time, one-time save would be convenient.

I'm sorry that my English isn't that good. So, what do you think of this idea?

They will arrive somewhere in July. If I do not open Classic packs (from brawls/ watching a friend) waiting for the new cards there will be a chance to find them or the content is "frozen" when I get the pack? thakns

I had a discussion with a dude on redddit today that made a post stating the OG Grim Patron Deck wasnt as hard to pilot as people make it out to be. Obviously I disagreed with him on that but it really made me think about what deck actually was the HARDEST to pilot. The GP deck had a low winrate at the time even though ( and any player who played hs at the time will agree with me on that )  in the hand of the right player it used to be absolutely devastating. So the deck was really high rewarding, hard to play and even harder to master. I personally might even go as far as saying it could be the hardest out there. Im really not sure though. The other decks high up there would be Miracle rogue and freeze mage I reckon.
As I said Im really not sure though :D ! What do you guys think were/are the hardest decks to play ?

Mech Warrior vs Big Shaman.  Someone didn't think this play all the way through...

Hey guys, I have been kinda bored of HS recently, and from experience, the best way to get back into it is to build a new deck. 

As of now, I have three golden classes (warrior, shaman, and druid), and I am eyeing warlock to be my fourth, not only because he looks cool, but the class is so much fun. 

So finding a deck wasn't hard, but I need your help narrowing it down. First, let me start with what I already eliminated and why:

I eliminated standard in general for two reasons:

1) The only archetypes are zoo and handlock.

2) I've played zoo to legend two seasons ago, so I don't really want to play that again soon. I've been experimenting with handlock, but it's really bad... I went from rank 2 back to 3. 

So I turned my head to good old wild, which I really haven't played in a few months. The five decks that I am looking at right now are as follows:

1) Renolock. Missing: Zola (replacible?), Kazakus, Godfrey, and Mal'Gantis. 

Pros: Competitive, and looks pretty fun. Cons: Not great Big Priest matchup, which I hate. Also, it's pretty expensive. 

2) Darkest Hour Warlock: Missing: 2 Bloodbloom, 1 Darkest Hour, Mal'Gantis, 2 nerubian unraveler, Ysharaj (not even gonna try to spell that, and replaceable?)

Pros: Looks pretty fun when it works, faster than Renolock, and a better priest matchup

Cons: probably not the best competitive deck, could get boring after a while?

3) As writing cubelock I crossed it out because of how EXPENSIVE it is

4) Mecha'Thun Warlock: Missing: Mecha'Thun (lul), Bloodbloom, cataclysm, Hemet (is there a version that doesn't run him?), Solarium (probably replacible), Godfrey

Pros: Fun, good big priest matchup

Cons: expensive, especially if those two legendaries aren't replacible

5) SN1P-SN3P OTK (fast version) Missing: solarium, thalnos

Pros: Good priest matchup, very cheap

Cons: Doesn't look super top tier, huge reliance on the snip snap draw

So my question to you is: which deck should I craft (if any), and do you have any other fun decks that I am missing/should try?

Sorry this is a few years long, and thanks for any answers in advance.

This is where we post our cards!

Hello, I am using firefox 67.0.4 windows 10 if that matters, when I press the "leave comment" button I am not taken to the page where I left the comment and it seems as if the button does nothing but in fact if I refresh the page it does post the comment.. it happens both in the forums and the comment section of articles and it worked before today.

I didn't try other browsers or posting via phone yet.

Edit: seems like it doesn't happen when opening a thread. but it does happen with the edit button.

Is there a report feature on this website already? If so, I couldn't find it.

I'm asking because the last post of this thread https://outof.cards/forums/hearthstone/deck-building/697-wild-odd-warrior-best-list has been up for a day. And I'm pretty sure both the user and post don't have a place on this website ;)

Recently I crafted a golden Sonya for my Spectral Pillager Rogue (in the sig) because it has long been my favorite deck. I may also craft a golden Valeera down the road too at some point. Sure, crafting cards in golden is certainly not everyone's cup of tea, but once in a long while I like to do a little extra for a deck I really like. Baited for those shinies.

Have you ever crafted a golden legendary for a deck or specific card you really enjoyed?

"The question in each and every thing, 'Do you want this again and innumerable times again?'..."
- Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science, 1882

Hi everyone,

The "specter of infinite monotony" threatens many of life's pleasures and sadly Hearthstone is no exception.  So why not spice up your HS experience with a new deck to master/improve every week on your journey to legend?!

The game is simple, each week someone (likely me) will post the deck picked by Firebat for his YouTube show Deck Doctor.  Your job will be to take Firebat's place!

1. Copy the original list and take it for a test drive on ladder.
   • Leave comments on your reactions to the deck here!
2. Make changes to the list and try, try, try again.
   • Only constraint is to preserve the soul of the original deck.
   • Although Firebat limits his changes to Standard, feel free to take your build in a Wild direction :)
3. Upload your favorite version of your list here and tell us about your experience!

If there's interest, we could even hold a weekly competition to see who can climb the highest in both Standard and Wild with screenshots/replays uploaded and a leaderboard and all that jazz.

We could also expand the game so that people submit their own decks to be doctored by the OOC community!  (slowly morphing the thread into the deckbuilding challenge of old...and then my plan will be complete, muahahah ;D )

OK, enough of this small talk; doctor, you're needed in the OR, Stat!

TLDR: 1.) Advertising a change to bombs (summoning minions instead of doing direct damage) 2.) Not directly implied, but: Bombs should do 3dmg 3.) Nerfing Bomb Warrior this way could nerf Big Priest in Wild (simultaneously nerfing two 1-2 tier decks) 4.) I do realize that there exist counters, but having only consistent counters that need 20+ min to win the game might not be healthy for the game overall

So yes, I'm passively ranting against Bomb Warrior and Big Priest since like two months. Ans YES, THIS THREAD MIGHT AS WELL BE IN SOME OF THOSE THREATS - BUT I want to discuss a solution and not the problem... (This is more about wild than standard, but hey there are some interactions that still concern standard players)

But first look at some problems/interactions with:

1. Concerning Big Priest: If you're still looking for reasons to nerf this, well... (No, the deck is NOT OP, but contrary to other decks you win against aggro and control decks still have to invest time AND thought into beating you)
2. Concerning Bomb Warrior: Hell yeah, a new theme in standard! However, bombs interact with: Reno Decks (adding additional cards of the same kind), Spell card draw (denies Far Sight, gets drawn by Spirit of the Frog), Spells overall ([Hearthstone Card (Dragons Fury) Not Found], Grand Archivist)
3. But since they cast on draw, they DO NOT interact with cards like Zul'jin, Wild Pyromancer, etc (which is consistent in itself, I give you that)

My proposal to change (nerf/buff) this mechanic:

All bomb generating cards create a proxy card (for your opponent) that reads 'When drawn, summon a 1/1 bomb that deals 5 damage to your hero'. (I still do advertise the 3dmg bombs...)

Why would this be preferable? (Pros:)

• It creates a consistent and bearable counter against Big Priest in Wild (yes, I do realize BP might not be the best deck but it is frustrating to play against from rank 50 to legend 1000+)
• You do get a possibility to counter the bombs (Silence/Evolve)
• Interesting interaction with token decks

Cons:

• Dr Boom needs to be reinvented
• (Open for suggestions)

I know that Akali, the Rhino and Sweeping Strikes interaction works as intended if adjacent minions are Overkilled but is Darius Crowley and Sweeping Strikes interaction fixed? I don't have Darius so I can't test the interaction by myself but I remember this interaction still wasn't fixed. Is it still the case? Can someone confirm it?

That's a new thing to me. I care little to none when it comes to deck scores, but I care for reliability/accuracy of system and new deck-ideas.

Please have a look at the picture. The deck in question is circled around with yellow:

It is scored 2 point, which I don't care. But when I have a look, it is scored different. I wish this system error was solely on this deck.  Sadly, there's more: Even-Renounce is scored here as 6 points, yet here it's 5 points. I believe this issue should be addressed as soon as possible to bring justice around all decks. Maybe when errors are resolved, we can see other worthy decks on Hot pages that otherwise couldn't due to errors.

Minions have all the fun! I want to be able to line up a couple of spells and then get a reward like a combo or magnetic effect for spells. Say if you manage to cast a fireball and a frostbolt after one another they melt to become a frostfire bolt doing extra damage. For instance. Only rogues have that atm. Or each consecutive spell in the same turn gets mana reduction. Stuff like that. Or being able to enhance a card in your hand with a spell without the opponent seeing which card you buffed. Some crazy stuff with spells. A spell to revive a spell you cast earlier that game (aka resurrect on spells). A pyroblast! when you have 2 crits in a row would also be nice to have.

Really I think Control Warlock is just a couple cards away from being playable, but without those cards its just awful. I miss Defile so much. 

First of all, just to get some good boy points, i just recently turned to this site as my main hearthstone website. Well done with the news coverage, you won me over pretty quickly. Since i moved here i thought i'd take the occasion to add some content myself, even tho i never really did long posts on hearthpwn maybe i can do one here just because.

SO, at the start of the expansion, when dks rotated out, i thought the game would move from the old "infinite value" model to a more oldschool kind of hs where you had to manage your resources more carefully. But it really didnt, actually it got worse, because dks just slooowly gave you value with their hero powers, and everyone had them, now value generation is all over the place.

Following here the things i dont like-->

I don't like conjurer's calling. The card is pretty cool on paper, it's supposed to balance the value it can create with the randomness of the effect, except you can use it pretty consistently cheap mountain giants, with the only results being either 2 mountain giants or 2 grave shamblers, which are basically mountain giants with taunt. I don't have a problem with mountain giant per se, the card is a pretty cool way hand focused control decks can contest the board, but at the moment we don't have bgh anymore as a valuable option to remove it, and if it sticks and a conjurer calling lands, it's pretty much game over (with conjurer calling being twinspell). I really don't like this kind of value because it comes too early in the game and is way too consistent for the value it gives.

I don't like that they put another strong mech removal on warrior. I would have been fine with a generic removal, but with dr boom warrior has too much removal. I don't have a problem with dr boom per se, but the card suffers from deathstalker rexxar syndrome, where he was a perfectly fine card on release, and got completely out of control with the introduction of the new cards. Omega assembly also worsens the problem, as it has the same problem with the cards it generates being too consistently good, which in turn makes the interaction with the dr boom aura stronger. 

I don't like bomb hunter, not the concept per se, but i really dont like how the deck interacts with magnetic. When i saw magnetic, and i think a lot of people thought the same, i went "well this mechanic is either gonna be completely useless, or it's gonna be completely overpowered". Matter of fact, magnetic is completely useless in the decks that can't abuse it, and completely broken in the decks that do abuse it. If you manage to make minions stick, it's virtually charge, except the minions that have it don't have bad stats to compensate. "but you can't silence charge" duh, but you can't really silence magnetic either, when every card has magnetic you are not gonna silence every one of them, and even if you do the card most likely already used its value and it's still gona leave behind a body that you can magnetize on.

I don't really like arch thief rafaam either. The effect is very cool, but it was cool as a late game option on elise decks, because you had to decide which removal tools you wanted to use and which you were gonna turn into legendaries. Made for some very cool value battles (incidentally one of my favourite decks was grinder priest with elise and justicar, where the game felt as you were ramping up in power and pretty often games were really close (also a callout to elise ctrl warrior)). Like it is now, it's just another rexxar where you are gonna build the aggroest deck you can make and just drop rafaam to turn into a late game deck if the aggro plan fails. Meh.

SO yeah, i don't like anything sorry, i thought i was going somewhere with this but whatever xD. I just wanted to say what i didn't like and see if anyone else has concerns over this.

Also i didn't give solutions to the stuff, im not some kind of wanna be game designer that is gonna say yeah blizzard is so stupid lmao if i made the cards it would be 10 times better lul. I think if you just write some solutions in a post like this you are gonna get attacked over them. Im just raising the issue, if you guys can think of a "solution" you can share it but i mean, whatever bro do what you want. Some of the stuff they put in the game is flawed at a basic level, i can't just say "remove it from the game" or " yeah let's just make conjurer's calling 10 mana" because the problems are more in the way cards interact with each other than the cards themselves. Hopefully next expansion waters this stuff down enough that it's not as impactful as it is now, blizz pls don't fuck up reno. 

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-- Since i'm getting a lot of replies about rafaam not being that strong, im gonna clarify. When i said that i didn't like rafaam and compared it to rexxar, what i meant was that the cards share a similiar theme where you get to turn an aggro plan into a slower but inconsistent value game. The fact that rexxar got blown completely into overpowerdness by the ww beast package full of rush beasts, lifesteal and poisonus is another discussion. I specifically said that the effect, is actually a pretty fun one to toy with in control decks, citing old elise-the golden monkey decks as an example, but is not the kind of effect in my opinion that should be so easily available as to just put in a single card in your deck for more aggressive strategies. --

<-- Best card ever

I mean, I read this 2 years ago;

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4x3i6l/reno_jackson_is_a_dragon_theory/

and They revealed Nozari after Peter Whalen said something about the protector of Dalaran as "the mighty, the incredible powerful dr..." in this video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_taTpyXKYE

now we are getting -probably- LoE related expansion;

This theory also answers why League of Explorers helps Dalaran to fight with E.V.I.L.

Also, Nozari has almost same effect with Reno Jackson. They both heals fully our heroes.

That's all, it may be silly thought but it is what I can't stop thinking.