Today's Hearthstone Developer AMA focused on Saviors of Uldum has completed. Here's our recap and all the posts made by the Hearthstone devs.
Uldum Expansion
- The next PvE Adventure content will be like the Dalaran Heist, but "we have some twists in store".
- The League of Explorers have their class roles due to needing to fill in the remaining classes after the League of E.V.I.L.
- Elise - Made a natural Druid with her early studies of Un'goro Crater
- Brann - The giant blunderbuss he carries (not to mention super sweet Dino Mount) made him an instant Hunter
- SirFinley - Having apparently been "knighted" at some point became the Paladin
- Reno - Well… that left mage.. this in turn led us to the "Gatling Wand" he carries, and he seemed to take to the using of magic in this form like a duck to water!
- The goal with Quests in Uldum compared to Un'Goro is they want them to be easier to complete. They're designed around more mid-game use though rather than end-game.
- There are no plans for any card changes on or before the Uldum launch.
- The Rogue's Plague card ended up being changed during the final design process due to class identities being finished.
- We will be getting a new Lackey in the expansion.
Reborn Mechanic
Reborn resurrects a minion the first time it dies with 1 Health. It premieres with the launch of Saviors of Uldum.
- The upcoming Reborn mechanic has a distinct effect that lets you know if it is active.
- Reborn minions will not retain buffs.
- Reborn minions count as being summoned.
- Reborn originally was a placeholder keyword for the mechanic. It ended up being the easiest word to understand of the ones they tried.
- Mummy, Mummified, Embalmed, and Ankh were some of the other names considered for Reborn.
Core Sets
- If the right opportunity arises, the team may consider adding other keywords to the Classic set.
- Priest not having board clear in the core set lets them make the class feel different each time they print a new one.
- Mage is tough to create additional board clear for due to the amount of clear present in the core sets.
- Older legendaries may receive updated entrance animations if its something people would like to see. Showing your support helps!
Archetypes & Cards
- Reckless Experimenter originally killed minions instantly but had an "undesirable" combo with Spirit of the Dead which created an OTK when Knife Juggler and Dead Ringer were in play.
- Zilliax is in a comfortable spot for the team. They like that it showcases the Magnetic mechanic.
- Barnes has the team in a rough spot. Changing it could hurt the Res Priest archetype. Dean Ayala thinks the archetype may function without it.
- Divine Spirit is a card that restricts design and is a potential candidate for future changes.
- They don't like designing cards that make use of Divine Spirit as the win condition.
- Due to the card, you're more likely to see a 6/4 minion in Priest instead of a 4/6.
- Kingsbane Rogue was nerfed because the deck invalidated most control strategies.
Misc
- Ben Thompson appreciates the interest from the community in more cosmetics.
- They will continue to create content for between expansions such as the Rise of the Mech event and upcoming Fire Fest-E.V.I.L.
- The team has a more open outlook going forward towards changing cards more frequently.
- Dean "Iksar" Ayala is curious if players think a small amount of new cards being released between expansions would be a good idea. A small release being 5-40 cards. (Source) (Source 2)
- There are going to be a few cute cards this expansion, "especially if you like mummies".
Quote From Blizzard Developer AMA Okay so Rafaam's Plan is to unleash the plagues. It sounds nice but why?. Does he like chaos and destruction that much?
He really does! Some people have quiet hobbies like knitting or stamp collecting. Rafaam thinks bigger! (Maybe too much bigger.)
Lore Question:
1) Does Reno’s magical crystal gun have a name? 2) Where did he find such a powerful artifact?
Reno has recently taken an interest in magical items. The more powerful they are, the more he likes them! The Gatling Wand might be his favorite, though.
Hello, I would like to know if the team reads the theories about the next expansions. Has any been discovered before being announced?
Thanks!
Yes. 😅
This was a favorite question from the last AMA… without spoiling anything, what’s your favorite card sound from the new expansion?
My favorite sound goes something like this: Pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew!
(HS_Alec)
Will we be getting a cute card in Uldum, such as snowflipper penguin or faithful lumi? If so, how cute do you think it is?
There are definitely a few in this expansion, especially if you like mummies!
(HS_Alec)
What is the common theme/mechanic to all the plagues? We've seen a board clear with absolute destruction, but I'm betting they all aren't board clears.
All the plagues affect both sides of the board. When they happen, it'll be a big moment in the game and minions will usually die. Since plagues can create massive destruction, you'll have to be fairly mindful of when to unleash yours.
Visually, there's also some really great swirl effects that link them all together. FX kicked ass on them.
(HS_Alec)
What other iterations of the keyword "Reborn" did you touch upon before finalising on its current functionality?
Side note: A small observation is that Reborn is effectively the Paladin Spell "Desperate Stand," but without Deathrattle synergy. I have a small hope that Paladins get a minion with both Divine Shield and Reborn this card set.
Reborn was actually one of those mechanics we had very early on. In the first few weeks of development, we slotted it in and immediately saw a lot of design space. Some of the early work came in the form of figuring out how exactly to value minions with Reborn. Think we landed in a pretty good spot there.
(HS_Alec)
How did you feel like the Rise of Mechs event and card buffs went? Would you consider doing something similar in the future?
Definitely happy with Rise of the Mech and the card buffs. Being able to introduce cards like SN1P-SN4P and see how players react to the buffs was super exciting for us. Nothing to announce at the moment, but we are considering it.
(HS_Alec)
That's great to hear!
I just realised something in another discussion. Reborn would enable a minion with Deathrattle to get its Deathrattle to trigger twice. At least I'm pretty sure that's how it would work!
Are there any minions in Saviours of Uldum with both Reborn and a Deathrattle?
Reborn and Deathrattle together sounds prettyyyyyy scary!
(HS_Alec)
Hello, I would like to know if the team reads the theories about the next expansions. Has any been discovered before being announced?
Thanks!
Yes.
(HS_Alec)
Since this seems to be a point of confusion, are more Lackey's getting added or just more cards using the Lackey keyword?
We will be adding another Lackey in Saviors of Uldum. Expanding the pool changes how you think about Lackeys and what outs you are looking for, like 2 damage or that clutch spell you were looking for. Lackeys are a year-long mechanic and we really wanted to shake things up with each expansion.
(HS_Alec)
Wouldn't it be easier to program it like Twinspell? The first half having the name and the second half not having it.
It's less about what's easier or harder to program. It's more about what makes for better gameplay. It being the same minion with Reborn on or off lets us do some cool things with some of the designs (that you'll see when more cards are shown). Having an on-board visual effect is a concern for board clarity and something we definitely were concerned with, but in the end we tried to make the effect for it clear but not cluttered. With Twinspell, it's harder to do a visual effect for the card since they stay in your hand so we went with a different treatment for that.
(Puffin)
Priest cards tend to have higher health because they are a less aggressive class and their hero power heals.
Not sure this is accurate. It always felt to me like Priest cards tend to NOT have higher health pools because Divine Spirit is a consideration. Other then Rise of Shadow's Henchclan Thug, I can't think of a Priest Minion that had a high health pool when compared to its mana cost.
We do have to be careful of Divine Spirit, though it's just much more likely you'd see a minion be 6/4 than 4/6. Priest minions are pretty cool, laid back characters. Hunter characters are usually a bit more aggressive looking and have stats a little more aggressive to back up both their flavor and the toolkit of what that class is good at.
(Iksar)
Hello from the head moderator of r/customhearthstone! I just wanted to say thank you on behalf of our creative community for continuing to make sure an inspiring game.
I wanted to ask about how familiar the designers of Hearthstone are with various design theories such as top-down and bottom-up, timmy, johnny, and spike, lenticular design, and design aesthetics. Is it something that you are constantly learning about and implementing into your work?
Extremely familiar. Those are all terms we reference frequently. One of the benefits to working on a game like Hearthstone is that you frequently have the opportunity to learn. Releasing every 4 months means you have to design, iterate, and *finish*. After that you have a window of player feedback and you are on to the next thing. We go through that loop over and over again while most other games have much, much longer windows of time before they can go through that experience. I've been on Hearthstone since Naxx, so getting all the player feedback for the last 15 releases just helps you become a better designer.
(Iksar)
Ive always been interested in releasing 35 or so less cards in the first release and holding them for a month. Doing this would both help with keeping things fresh and developing a story, maybe the single player adventure could end with a surprise villain and then boom 30 cards relating to the character come in and shake things up.
Pretty reasonable. If anything, I think we'd be more likely to ship the same amount of cards at a faster cadence than substantially increase the amount of cards we release on the same cadence.
Still, I think there is some room for some very small releases or 5-40 cards. Interesting thought. For both complexity and cost of game reasons, though, I think it's very unlikely we'd release very many more cards than that per year.
(Iksar)
You hadn't hesitate when nerfing others favourite deck "Kingsbane Rogue". (by nerfing leeching poison)
You're right. Design and balance are always a subjective thing. Which card is too powerful? Which deck archetype truly crosses the sacred boundary of fun?! It's not an exact science. In the case of Kingsbane Rogue we thought that deck invalidated most control strategies, and it was also quite a bit more popular in Wild than Big Priest has been.
(Iksar)
One of the clearest identities of Priest in the base set is Divine Spirit, but the mechanics of Divine Spirit can be so frustrating that it's not something we go out of our way to design towards.
I'm so confused: the only endgame condition Priest has… you no longer want to support. (Not that I'm complaining about the Inner Fire Combo).
What gives?
We like leaning into high minion health so Priest can take advantage of their healing potential, but might have to address Divine Spirit in order to realize that goal.
PLEASE. PLEASE do this. Priest players have been begging for this for a while. We can't keep minions alive if you're always worried about giving Priest minions too much health because of Divine Spirit.
We honestly don't usually go into decks wanting Divine Spirit to be the main win condition. Priest cards tend to have higher health because they are a less aggressive class and their hero power heals. Because of this, Divine Spirit ends up being a core win condition. This is fine. I'm not trying to say we won't continue to do this, though I am saying that we would rather not go into card design with the idea that Divine Spirit / Inner Fire should be the core win condition in all Priest decks. It can create a feeling that if you don't clear a Priest minion, you could be dead at any moment, which I think is mostly a negative feeling. If we were to ever change Divine Spirit in some way, we'd do it at a time where the design benefits of making that change are right around the corner. You are safe…. FOR NOW!!!
(Iksar)
I´m sorry, but is that for real?
Is ANYONE playing wild right now from the team on rank 24+?
Who the … is enjoying playing Big Priest or playing agaist it?
Baku and Genn should´ve been removed completely as I´ll be pain in the azz forever for me and for everyone playing wild…
I´m sorry again, but this answer is one of the biggest jokes I have seen in my life.
Like how hard is to actually nerf few broken decks/cards and actually be responsive with the Wild community and not just response to Standard players "casually" playing wild time to time? :(
End even tho I was so excited, this just ended my hopes and dreams again and again.
Yes, we do.
Statistically speaking, Big Priest is pretty average. However, it's one of the most played decks. One of the easiest explanations for this is that players like playing the deck. It might not be the highest win rate strategy but it *feels* powerful to play. We would never argue that Big Priest is something that everyone loves, but I think it's pretty hard to argue that no one likes playing it. If that were true, then it would fall closer in line with other decks that have a similar win rate, cost to craft, or style of play.
(Iksar)
Ironically, it's probably the most hated of many Wild players.
Unsurprisingly, some of the most loved decks are usually some of of the most hated.
(Iksar)
There are any plans to make Priest "Evergreen" set better? I'm still playing the game, but my Priest player friends mostly left and I'm probably staying but it feels sad to see them leave.
Edit: Changed a spell mistake.
The power of individual Priest cards is actually not bad, it's more that the basic and classic set don't have a strong archetype direction. One of the clearest identities of Priest in the base set is Divine Spirit, but the mechanics of Divine Spirit can be so frustrating that it's not something we go out of our way to design towards. Healing is a strong flavor mechanic, but it's not a great mechanic to build your deck around. Card generation is a fun mechanic, but it doesn't necessarily lead to winning games on its own. We like leaning into high minion health so Priest can take advantage of their healing potential, but might have to address Divine Spirit in order to realize that goal. Priest archetypes isn't a totally solved question at this point, but we hope there are some fun decks on the horizon and Priest players will be excited with some of the Uldum cards being revealed over the next month or so.
(Iksar)
Now I'm curious what the other names have been like. Could you give a naming example, please?
A few we considered were:
- Mummy/Mummified - Felt more like a minion type than a keyword. It would've also pigeon-holed us into making all of the Reborn minions into Mummies and it didn't quite lead you to understand what the mechanic did on first read.
- Embalmed - Had that great thematic vibe, but it was harder to predict what the keyword did on first read.
- Ankh - Felt more like an item than a keyword and also didn't indicate that it was a one-time effect.
What we liked about Reborn was, when we showed it to people for the first time, they could instantly guess what it basically did. That was a huge win for us and ultimately led to us choosing to stick with the original keyword.
(Puffin)
There has been a lot of discussion in regard to "class identity" recently. There are many who believe the criteria listed in your recent article goes against current design philosophies, particularly concerning Mage and Shaman. On the other hand, I do understand the need for flexibility in order to enable new archetypes and playstyles for each class. Can you provide any sort of clarification to what "class identity" means to you when working on a new set?
We've been talking about Class Identity for some time now; we want classes to feel different to play as and against. Priest is all about building up a board and healing your minions, creating a bunch of big minions to beat your opponent down. If you're playing against Priest and they have a bunch of minions on the board, it should feel scary. If you're at ten Health but they don't have any minions, you should feel pretty safe. However, you should feel scared if you're at ten Health against a Hunter, even if they don't have a board of minions. When Priest has access to cards like Mind Blast, it makes it harder to create that plan against a Priest.
It was important for us to nail down the details first, though. To your point, Shaman have been doing a lot of card generation lately. We'd like to stick to class identities more closely, so going forward you can expect to see us lean into that those identities more and more.
When working on a new set as a designer, if I need ideas for what core cards to put in a class I look at the strengths in their class identity for inspiration. The weaknesses are really the defining feature of a class though. They help separate their class from the others. Knowing what a class can't do helps reinforce the feel of the class. If something doesn't fit in their identity, maybe that mechanic would be best suited in a different class.
We changed Rogue's Plague for Saviors of Uldum during Final Design as a result of the Class Identity being solidified.
(Liv)
Will wild get any balance changes implemented at the next expansion launch?
Barnes comes up as a topic of conversation a lot and it's something we've been looking at a little closer in the last week or so as Saviors of Uldum gets closer and closer to release. One of the biggest concerns we've had with changing Barnes is that the Resurrect Priest deck is a favorite of many Wild players, and taking away Barnes might make it feel like they can't play their favorite deck anymore. The spirit of Wild to some degree is that it should be a place where you can go to play your favorite deck no matter when you come back to the game. That said, there have been so many cards released that fall into the Resurrect Priest archetype that I think we could make a change to Barnes without making it feel like that deck is unable to function. We don't have any changes planned on or before the release of Saviors of Uldum, though we'll revisit this topic once the expansion releases and we have a better idea of what Wild looks like post-Uldum.
(Iksar)
Do you think that 135 collectible cards are ebough to keep the meta diverse between each expansions? If you guys had enough resources would you make more/bigger expansions or is the current ammount ideal?
Really good question! There are a bunch of factors that go into making a decision around how many cards to release. Usually when people talk about meta diversity they are talking about the length of time they can go before the game seems solved and becomes less interesting. The two things that impact this the most are the amount of cards we release, and the cadence in which we release them. In the past, some of our content releases only came with 30-45 cards, which we don't think ended up being enough card content to fill a 4-month window with enough interesting decks to explore. We landed on releasing 135 cards per expansion because it felt like enough content to last the full 4 months. Nowadays, as players are consuming the content faster we're trying a bunch of different ways to freshen things up around the 2-month mark. One of our first swings at that was the Rise of the Mech event, I would be curious if players think that releasing a small subset of cards during the 2-month timeline would be a good idea or not. We have a bunch of ideas that we're going to try over the new few expansions.
(Iksar)
What other iterations of the keyword "Reborn" did you touch upon before finalising on its current functionality?
Side note: A small observation is that Reborn is effectively the Paladin Spell "Desperate Stand," but without Deathrattle synergy. I have a small hope that Paladins get a minion with both Divine Shield and Reborn this card set.
One fun fact about the name "Reborn". It was the original temp name that we put in to the game to start testing with. We talked about it a lot afterwards and pitched a lot of other names, but it ended up being the one that was easiest to understand on first read and the one that we're shipping with.
(Puffin)
The latest VS report noted a dramatic decrease in contributor numbers coinciding with the TFT release. With newer games on the market vying for our attention what plans or features do you have in place to keep the playerbase engaged going forwards? I appreciate the single player content is more involving than ever, but are any changes planned to the core multiplayer experience?
At the beginning of the year the team committed to increasing the cadence of content and the variety of ways players get to interact with the game and the team who makes it. With the first round of single player found in Rise of Shadows there was focus on making the most exciting and re-playable single player to date, and the team continues to be proud of this experience.
The "Rise of the Mech", the recently announced "Fire Fest-E.V.I.L.", and a more open outlook towards changing cards more frequently (as seen with the recent nerf, buffs and classic rotated cards) are just a few of the examples of this commitment to date. We fully intend to do more like this especially between expansions, and identify even more opportunities going forward.
Not Uldum specific, but what are some engineering nightmares that stuck out while developing the cards?
Nightmares probably isn't the right word, but certainly challenges. I have a feeling you'll know the card we're talking about when you see it. Every expansion we have an engineering time budget we try to adhere to. It's important we're doing new cool stuff, sometimes that includes work we have to ask for from our engineering team. Our design tools are pretty robust, but there are always a bunch of designs we think of that we currently don't support within our designer tool. When that happens we find the cards that are most important to the set to ship and make sure we have enough time budgeted to finish them.
(Iksar)
Hi, thank you for answering our questions.
Regarding Wild gameplay, are there any cards designed on this set that targets the Wild audience and/or was created with their usage on Wild decks as your objective? Are there any thoughts on doing this going forward?
E.g. creating a card that has not much use in Standard, but fills a much needed hole in a Wild deck, while still keeping inside the flavor and design of the expansion.
In general when designing our expansion sets, we focus on trying to design the best cards that fit the flavor of theme that we're trying to explore and the mechanics we want to introduce.
When an expansion is released it's exciting for players who enjoy both Standard and Wild since there are new tools that they can experiment with, to either add into their existing decks, or to explore entirely new deck archetypes.
For Saviors of Uldum in particular, among the cards that we've revealed already, something like [[Questing Explorer]] that we designed to aid with the new Quests in the set can also be used with the old Quests from Journey to Un'Goro. We try to design cards that players will find exciting in whichever formats they enjoy playing most, though some tend to be stronger in specific formats like Wild, Standard, or Arena.
(Puffin)
Not Uldum related, or maybe?, but do you guys have any plans to introduce more game modes/make the brawl blocks a regular mode?
I love the random brawl blocks that we've been getting, it sets up all sorts of new and exciting decks. I know a lot of other TCG games have different formats similar to the brawl blocks and I think it would make for an awesome addition to the game.
That aside, I wanted to thank you guys for adapting and being willing to take chances on changing up the meta by buffing and nerfing cards and I hope you will continue to do so.
We're really excited that we're able to explore new game modes in something like Tavern Brawl (now almost Always open!). It gives us an opportunity to explore new ideas quickly and get immediate feedback. We're excited to try something like our recently announced Fire Fest-E.V.I.L. which combines a Dungeon Rule-style experience in a Tavern Brawl. Surprise and delight is one of our key tenets and we're going to continue to explore different ways to play the game and hopefully keep you all guessing!
(Puffin)
oh snap, does this mean they're reducing the downtime between brawls? That'd be good.
Yes! This is live now!
(Puffin)
In the two years since Un'Goro, what has been the single biggest adaptation in your approach to designing Quest cards?
When we decided that we wanted to explore Quests again for Saviors of Uldum, we wanted to do them differently than we did with Journey to Un'Goro. The original Quests were more difficult to complete in general and you tended to have to go all-in in your deck build-around for them. Whether or not you were able to complete your quest often determined if you would win the game since rewards for those quests were so powerful the game ended shortly after.
With the Quests in Saviors of Uldum, we wanted them to be easier to complete, but also have more of a game to play out once the quest was completed. The new Quests will instantly change your Hero Power on completion so you can immediately take advantage of their effect. We expect these Quests to complete more towards the mid-game than the end game so it will feel more like a second phase of the game with your opponent still having a good opportunity to win.
(Puffin)
Does the fact that Zilliax is included in more than 66% of all decks concern the balance team at all? In the past, neutral cards that were too prevalent have been the subject of balance changes. Or are you comfortable with it's current power level, and enjoy watching the meta becoming unified, precise, and perfected?
We've continued to keep an eye Zilliax since its release and we're comfortable with its place in the current meta. It's used in a variety of decks, but plays different roles in each. We intended for Zilliax to be a card that showcased the Magnetic mechanic and are happy that it's been able to do so. We'll continue to monitor its power and place in the meta, but are pleased with it overall.
(Puffin)
Posted this in the competitveHS thread but
- Does the minion return without the keyword Reborn? I.E. if you had a buff that only worked on a reborn minion would it work post reborn?
- Do reborn minion retain buffs? I assume not but want to make sure
- Do reborn minion count as "summons"? So would a reborn minion with a Kadgar in play summon 2 minions?
- Do reborn minions spawn in the same spot they died or always to the left?
- If the second minion that is Reborn after the first minion dies is returned to your hand, does it have Reborn when you play it again?
- The minion that returns will still have the keyword Reborn on it. You can think of it like a Divine Shield minion that has its Divine Shield popped. It's still a Divine Shield minion, but no longer has Divine Shield.
- They do not.
- Yes, they count as summons.
- Yes, the Reborn gets refreshed if it gets bounced and played again.
(Puffin)
Hello, I would like to know if the team reads the theories about the next expansions. Has any been discovered before being announced?
Thanks!
Yes. 🤫
(Puffin)
Will we be getting a cute card in Uldum, such as snowflipper penguin or faithful lumi? If so, how cute do you think it is?
Love your name! There are definitely some cute cards. I wish you could see them right meow, but you'll just have to wait! =^.^=
(Puffin)
One last follow up on the first question. Will the word be like greyed out or will the be some visual effect to let you know it does not have Reborn anymore?
There's a visual effect to let you know if a minion has Reborn active or not.
(Puffin)
Cosmetics Questions:
Any news on new types of cosmetics? Would love for there to be more than just heroes and cardbacks in the game.
Cosmetics I would like: entrance animations (reward for 1,000 wins in Ranked/Arena with a class), hero power animations, emotes, emote animations (like the festive stuff - fireworks, snowflakes, etc.) board corners, music, alternate card art, etc.
New cosmetics are definitely something fun that can really make an immediately noticeable difference. I know I myself love the ability to personalize my hero, deck etc as the New Heroes or the Card Backs allow for currently.
Many of the suggestions you mention are interesting and some have been discussed among the team before: Hero Powers see a change when you use a New Hero, but simultaneously have to feel be reminiscent of the original Hero Power effect to avoid any confusion. I love the visual emotes we have done in previous in-game celebrations and those could be a lot of fun for sure.
Board corners have come up in the past but are VERY work intensive, not to mention your corners look different from those your opponent sees (bottom on your screen, top when your opponent sees you). This makes it difficult to display as a "prestige" piece to your opponent in a consistent way. Definitely an exciting "what if" to consider in the future…
Music would be fun, but when you consider art and audio are the two biggest offenders when it comes to client size we try to be very cautious when it comes to adding to either of these. Come-into-play "stingers" could be a fun add that make for a fun alternate but don't require as much space in the build as a full length song would?
The alternate hero explosion cited below is also a fun idea, definitely something to take back to the team.
Love the interest in cosmetics and look forward to sharing these with the team as a whole!
Will the rest of the Classic set legendaries be getting updated entrance animations like Illidan, Thalnos and Deathwing did?
Not necessarily, though when people have a positive response to these kind of changes it certainly helps! I think the examples you cite above were natural candidates as they are such prominent characters in the Warcraft universe and we felt we wanted to give them a little extra "oompf" when they are played. I am curious what other characters people would love to see get a similar treatment in the future when time allows for it?
What were the biggest challenges on making this new expansion
As the second in the three part story line started with Rise of Shadows, the team really focused on furthering the vibe and story while also bringing back the fan favorites: Elise, Reno, Brann and of course Sir Finley. Bringing back these characters along with a familiar mechanic in Quests, while still leaving room for new ideas such as Plagues and Reborn, all the while exploring the mysteries of Uldum, meant that the team had a ton of fun and opportunities and made the most of them at every turn!
What was the rationale behind pushing the League of Explorers as the Saviours of Uldum in their… peculiar class roles? Reno for Mage, Finley for Paladin, Elise for Druid.
We wanted the League of Explorers to fill in the remaining four classes after assigning the first five to the League of E.V.I.L. "CitizenDane" below is pretty close with their answer:
Elise - Made a natural Druid with her early studies of Un'goro Crater
Brann - The giant blunderbuss he carries (not to mention super sweet Dino Mount) made him an instant Hunter
SirFinley - Having apparently been "knighted" at some point became the Paladin
Reno - Well… that left mage.. this in turn led us to the "Gatling Wand" he carries, and he seemed to take to the using of magic in this form like a duck to water!
Hello, I would like to know if the team reads the theories about the next expansions. Has any been discovered before being announced?
Thanks!
Yup and Yes ;)
Any balloons in the expansion?
hmmm… not this one…
Can you tell us anything regarding single-player content? Are we continuing the formula from the Dalaran Heist, or can we expect something radically different?
The single player campaign will follow a similar "Dungeon Run" style as the Dalaran Heist, but we have some twists in store. We'll have more information about that in the future, but nothing to talk about at this time.
(Liv)
Not SoU specific, but do you think you'll ever add cards to the Classic/Basic Set that use new Evergreen keywords like Discover, Lifesteal, or Rush?
Not for Basic. We want cards in Basic to give you the flavor of a class and dip into the core mechanics of Hearthstone. It's possible for Classic to get new keywords, but we're hesitant to add them to the core non-rotating set. So… probably not, but if the right opportunity came around, we'd consider it.
(Liv)
More emphasis on classes having defined weaknesses is really cool.
My question would be are you still planning on promoting diverse playstyles within a class, even if they suffer from the same weaknesses (EG Token Druid vs a slower ramp Druid), or will some classes likely be focused more towards one type of deck?
It's important to us that classes feel different over time, so having diverse playstyles and new decks is one of the things we design for. Having weaknesses allows us to push their strengths harder too. So we're not trying to push classes towards one type of deck, but just make their weaknesses more pronounced. By having class identities, it allows us to explore more unique forms of their strengths.
Creating identities for classes allows players to learn to play their class or play against classes because they know what to expect. For instance, if you have a board of 4/4s against Druid, you should feel pretty safe but that same scenario against Mage feels different.
(Liv)
Priest got another Board Clear spell, and it's necessary for the class because historically priest has been always combo/control oriented, the lack of these control tools and win conditions cards on the evergreen set always affect the performance of the class post rotation (now more than ever with Mind Blast Hall of Famed), for this has been necessary for the upcoming expansions to print Board Clears and some other strong card to fill that gap, making of Priest almost a problem by the end of years, not to mention wild.
- In WotOG It was in 8-9th place in popularity terms with only one tier 4 deck with 45% WR (Control Dragon),
- In Ungoro It was in 6-7th place with one tier 2 deck with 50% WR (Silence),
- In WW It was in 8-9th place with one tier 2 deck with 51% WR (Control),
- In RoS It is in 8-9th place with one tier 3 deck with 47% WR (Mech),
The pattern seems to repeat with every rotation, with no strong minions, Priest has need to rely on these spells to stall the game until the combo is achieved.
Q; Is there any plan in the future about buffing/fixing Priest's Basic/classic set, or add a Board Clear like other combo/control classes have?
Not having a board clear in the core set helps Priest's board clear feel different with each expansion. At some points in time they have Psychic Scream, other times they have Mass Hysteria, other times it's Plague of Death. It makes Priest feel different from set to set.
If you compare it to Mage, who always has access to Blizzard, Flamestrike, and Frost Nova/Doomsayer, they always have the same board clear tools so their control feels more similar from set to set. It makes printing new and exciting board clears more difficult with Mage as well.
(Liv)
Will we have any mushrooms in SoU? With last rotation we lost all of them.
Not for this set. Most mushrooms and mushroom people thrive in damp environments. Uldum isn't a great place for them, even for a vacation. :D
(Liv)
Do you have an internal version of the game that lets you playtest different rulesets, especially for Tavern Brawls, such as the limited formats we’ve seen in Brawl Blocks, or extreme rules such as in the Double Deathrattle Brawl?
Which of these alternative rulesets are your favourite and are there any that you decided not to make into Brawls for being unfun?
Yeah, we have ways of creating alternate rulesets for playtests. How else would we playtest them? ;)
My favorite brawl has to be the upcoming Burndown one that's coming out soon. The WIP name was "The Darwin Brawl." It's super clever and I loved seeing which decks became dominant. I'm also a fan of the pre-release brawl that removes restrictions on deck building so you can put whatever you've opened into a deck. I made a deck of 13 Springpaws and it was horrible. :D
(Liv)
Have you ever had to retroactively change a card before release? I.e. if you were working on Rise of Shadows, change a card in Rastakhan's Rumble after you "finished" RR due to a potential combo you found?
Reckless Experimenter was changed after Chakki found an "undesirable" combo using Spirit of the Dead. Before release, Experimenter used to kill minions immediately instead of waiting until the end of the turn. Using Experimenter + Spirit of the Dead + Knife Juggler + Dead Ringer meant you created a draw engine that dealt one damage and drew the copy of Dead Ringer that had just shuffled into the deck after it died to create an OTK. So we went back and changed Experimenter to destroy the minion at the end of the turn.
(Liv)
Hello, I would like to know if the team reads the theories about the next expansions. Has any been discovered before being announced?
Thanks!
Yes.
(Liv)
Comments
I understand why people dislike Divine Spirit shenanigans as it seems like a cheap way to win - I personally like it but I guess it's a preference question. However, it concerns me that Blizzard keep removing Priest's win conditions from the basic set. First Mindblast and now potentially Divine Spirit so what's left in Priests classic set? It means that Priest will rely on getting a new win condition each expansion which means that Priest will either be terrible or good (depending on the win condition).
Hearing that the Rogue Plague has been changed last minute makes me kind of worried that it will be another Dr. Boom's Scheme situation. Rogue has suffered enough already if you ask me.
You're right. Design and balance are always a subjective thing. Which card is too powerful? Which deck archetype truly crosses the sacred boundary of fun?! It's not an exact science. In the case of Kingsbane Rogue we thought that deck invalidated most control strategies, and it was also quite a bit more popular in Wild than Big Priest has been.
(Iksar)
Yes, we do.
Statistically speaking, Big Priest is pretty average. However, it's one of the most played decks. One of the easiest explanations for this is that players like playing the deck. It might not be the highest win rate strategy but it *feels* powerful to play. We would never argue that Big Priest is something that everyone loves, but I think it's pretty hard to argue that no one likes playing it. If that were true, then it would fall closer in line with other decks that have a similar win rate, cost to craft, or style of play.
(Iksar)
Unsurprisingly, some of the most loved decks are usually some of of the most hated.
(Iksar)
Barnes comes up as a topic of conversation a lot and it's something we've been looking at a little closer in the last week or so as Saviors of Uldum gets closer and closer to release. One of the biggest concerns we've had with changing Barnes is that the Resurrect Priest deck is a favorite of many Wild players, and taking away Barnes might make it feel like they can't play their favorite deck anymore. The spirit of Wild to some degree is that it should be a place where you can go to play your favorite deck no matter when you come back to the game. That said, there have been so many cards released that fall into the Resurrect Priest archetype that I think we could make a change to Barnes without making it feel like that deck is unable to function. We don't have any changes planned on or before the release of Saviors of Uldum, though we'll revisit this topic once the expansion releases and we have a better idea of what Wild looks like post-Uldum.
(Iksar)
I don't understand this Big Priest love. As a Wild and Standart player, the current developement forces me pay less money for the game. I play (and pay) since beta beta and I think the introduction of Wild and Standard was great in every way. No power creep, fresh game in standart and still own the old card usable in Wild. But since the launch they try to let the wild mode to feel bad even with disgusting methods like Naga Interaction. And after there change it because it breaks the game, they make new cards like Darkest hour, Psychmelon, or Snip-Snap knowing they have the potential to ruin wild.
In standard they replace the core set with rubbish to get more money, ok. That seems profitable, but don't hide it behind dump statements. And YES it lets Standard feel more fresh, but thats not the reason for it.
I don't know why they think wild players are so bad for their financials. People playing wild often have spend much time and money to get all these cards. These players won't easily jump off and still buying packs in new expansions.
But it seems they can't give Wild a break. C'ant they understand that the winrate is indeed not the problem of Big Priest. It is what it single handetly made the Game mode in the last 1-2 Jears and its High roll aspect. It completly obliterated all kinds of controll decks, having no hard counters like Dirty Rat leaving behind a meta reducted to hyper aggresive Decks and Otk Decks (and itself obviously). The second aspect is the highroll. Hope is the only thing you have qeueing agains priest, hope they don't have Barnes. Seriously thats just sad for a game.
And what is the response? You say you nerfed Kingsbane because it was more popular than Big Priest, and then you say you don't nerf Big Priest because it is so popular. Because that makes it fun to play, popularaty.
Makes sense!
You also mentionend Kingsbane invalided control Decks as whole, there are 0 control decks in wild because of big priest.
Maked sense!
Big Priest is a deck that shouln't exist. And they know it. It is a skillless repetitive Highroll archtype that play kids who want to dominate others, leave them no chance with right draw, kids that have fun while saying "I drew Barnes on 4, get rekt" or "I'm the best, I completly destroyed my opponent, there was no possible answer to my board full of 2 mana 8/8". If that are the people for which you design this game and you want to destroy Wild mode, then ignore the other 75% and continue making dump decks in wild, waiting to nerf it until an other prepared dump deck can fill its place.
So they don't want to kill people's favourite decks but Kingsbane Rogue was my and many others' favourite deck. What's with the hypocrisy?
I don't understand the fixation on Divine Spirit as a "problem card". Divine Spirit is perfectly fine, and supports what Priests want to do perfectly. They want to stick a minion so they can buff it. They want to stick a minion so they can heal it. They want to stick a minion so they can copy it (Boomsday Priest design direction, at least). Divine Spirit is not the problem. Inner Fire is. Why should Divine Spirit pay for Inner Fire's sins? Just stop giving Priest ways to turn health into attack (Confuse, Topsy Turvy) and problem solved. Granted, if Inner Fire goes, then so must Crazed Alchemist, but honestly, would that be such a huge loss for the core set? It is a much more sensible solution than addressing Divine Spirit, which doesn't even do away with the problem entirely. Big beefy minions with a sizeable butt will always be present in the game, and as long as those are present, and Priest continues to get buff cards, they'd find a way to boost the health high enough for swap cards to be a problem for Standard. So just do away with the swap do away with Inner Fire, and let Priests buff health to high heaven if they feel like it. If they want to make a 6/36 Ysera, let them. They can't do much more than that with it if you don't let them turn that big butt into damage.
Edit: Also, would really like to know where they get their Res Priest info from. Every time I look at a Wild meta snapshot, Res Priest is either Tier 1 or 2. So yeah, a lot of people play it. Not necessarily because the deck is sooo enthralling, but because it is one of the go-tos for winrate, and can also occasionally end games at the speed of a hyper aggro deck, cause if you highroll your Barnes into Yshaarj etc., people concede on turn 4. So it gets wins, and can ocassionally also get them extremely fast.
I'm a bit sad that they've decided to give each of the members of LoE a specific class: they was already good as neutral minion without binding them to a detailed theme that will be anyway ignored most of the time.
Hmmmm So Reno’s Weapon is the Gatling Wand . Seems Blizzard is thinking to make the game more Childfriendly better remove some edgy Art , but give Reno a Gatling gun !
10 out of 10 !
Let's be honest here: Barnes, as terrible a design as he is, won't destroy Big Priest upon being nerfed. Blizzard is kind of right to be hesitant about nerfing a legendary if it won't even bring the worst offender down.
Blizzard could use the reborn mechanic to revamp the resurrection cards. It fits thematically, at the very least, so its introduction is their chance. Not a nerf, not a buff, just a complete change in playstyle. The chance is there now to kill off Big Priest without destroying Barnes, who is much more crucial to other janky decks.
Personally, I'd much prefer this to killing off Eternal Servitude, Resurrect and Lesser Diamond Spellstone, even if I dislike the cards to bits.
Just played a big priest in wild. He played turn 4 Archmage Vargoth. Now every ressurect spell was cast twice or more times. Given the priest minions that kill enemy minion on a deathrattle only one of which have lifesteal only fast aggro can comprte, but control cannot. Even without Barnes.
The meta-control deck! To control not only the aggro and the OTK decks but even all the other control decks.
Aggro deck gets controlled by rush, board clear, infinite armor and quicksand mechanics;
OTK deck gets controlled by destroying key cards in opponent deck (or summoning them too early) or milling opponent deck by putting utter garbage in opponent hand
Other control deck gets controlled by...erh...all of the above?
All I know for sure is that Reno Mage fans will unite!!
I think the devs enjoy playing big priest. There are no other explanations!
That Kingsbane nerf justification was so stupid. They mock at our faces!!
I mean, if there can't be any sort of anti-control deck, then Mecha'Thun should never exist, or any other OTK decks... oh, wait! There is THE anti-control deck (which is another control one)... that is... BIG PRIEST!! YEAHHHHHHH
To be fair whenever I play wild , I rarely play against big priest. Sure , if they have Barnes on 3/4 i usually, but not always.
no mushrooms feelscryman
It's astonishing how well they manage NOT to answer any question they're asked... They just talk and talk and talk but never give an exact answer... Maybe they should consider a change of career and become lawyers instead... I'm almost certain they'd do a better job at that than at balancing this game since it's beyond me how someone can think Big Priest isn't a problem...
Look at the win rates. It's not a problem.
- Archmage Antonidas with animation would be awesome, he already feels epic with his voice line and music - then riding in on a horse as he does in WC3
- Platinum heroes for 1000 wins - upgraded character art for instance of Anduin - I want to see Manduin + themed card back
- OR -
- Cross over heroes
Etc
I want Antonidas enter the board surfing on the trail of a fireball...or on a flying carpet made out of fire...
I don't think the Reckless Experimenter + Spirit of the Dead + Dead Ringer + Knife Juggler would ever result in an OTK given all the animations.
Also, Reno as the Mage Legendary, PogChamp.
i can't understand how they did'nt see that when the card was created oO