Legends of Runeterra

https://app.mobalytics.gg/lor/meta-tier-list

Elusive good stuff and Viktor card pile are S tier?

Like I know I haven't played the game for a while and they nerfed all the broke stuff namely Ionia tellstones and mildly tweaked the overstated Swain but I guaranteee there's better decks to play then just elusive good stuff.

So let's talk about what good from a brewers perspective who never plays S tier stuff anyways and still does fine.

Discard - they buffed Jinx obviously in a big way but I might actually give Draven Sion another look just jamming that 7 drop when people aren't running 9 bounces and stuns makes a big difference.

Landmark - just good midrange junk man, now that you're not getting instantly fed on by every single Swain deck in the meta you can just do your landmark things and win

Bandlecity - with the pirate aggro nerf a while back and the tweaks to Nami go wide decks yordlea are looking like a far more serious deck option

Daybreak - the Leona buff wasn't that long ago and once again midrange decks that aren't Swain are playable again, even less rallies to worry about.

Jayce/Lux - P and Z control that isn't ezreal or Taylor swift is gonna work far better after the death of Lee Sin and combo decks in general

Raaaaaamp - yeah the troll buff actually matters, allows feel the rush to exist outside of shadow isles naturally 

Frostbite - wait is freijord good again  cuz now we got Ash playable again too, I know people forgot this region exists but it's there

Deep - deep didn't go anywhere it was always strong and in a bounce less world its even better

I could do this all day and list decks potentially under looked in LOR right now because it honestly looks like after the major Ionia nerfs people forgot how to play this game.

Aaaaaah I can't just jam Akshan and cycle champions in 20 of my decks anymore aaaaaah.

Recently started playing runeterra and it's been great and i see that there is a lot of fun stuff still to come. I do, however, have some stuff i need help with, which would be greatly appreciated.

I posted here, because this was the most popular runeterra forum i could find. Are there others that deserve a looksie?

Like forums i've had some difficulty find the best ones (and up to date ones) when it comes to guides, tips for new players, strategies to employ in the most broad sense, as how to most efficiently get new cards, decks and resources that help me get those things to what decks to develop and concepts to focus on as a beginner and how to do that. Match tactics is something i don't feel i need to focus a lot on now as i've played a lot of other card games and related types of games, but feel free to advice me on that as well as it's something i need to get deeper into eventually. Concerning all of the above, i would love some advice and/or point me in the right direction - sites, where i can find comprehensive guides, beginner guides, video guides, deckbuilding guides or guides that explains or informs me of things that i may need as a new player, other forums, official or third-party tools and crucial information for new players.

I'm feel especially in need of knowing how to most efficiently expand my collection playing single player (preferably for free) as i prepare to enter multiplayer after i've gotten more cards, knowledge and skill. There are several options, single matches against AI, Challenges, Path of Champions (not sure that's all. draw my attention to other ways that are good if you won't mind), but i'm not entirely clear on what to focus on, or playing a mix if that's better, focus on completing missions and what missions yield the most in that case.

I should say that what my main goal is atm is to build or tweak an existing pre-built deck i've earned for use in solo play, to facilitate ultimately building a competitive, good (or great! :D ) deck in PvP, Tournaments and the like, for the currrent meta as well as a base of cards to make it easier to build new decks as the meta changes.

Getting cards is the most important thing i guess, but i also need advice, perhaps some guides and tools or such on how to best build a deck, from getting the cards, to whether to use an in-game, official or third party deckbuilder, if and how i can import decks, constructed by others or myself, if i should first tweak decks that LoR has given me, as the cheapest option, or use a deck from builds people have posted (which i can import if possible) that are easy and cheap, but still very good.

It would be great to have lists of cards to look out for which are the best, most important and/or most popular. And if i can get them just by playing pretty much anything or have more specific ways to get like missions, particular solo play mode, or that i would mostly need to use wildcards for.

You may have noticed that i'm kind of a power-player, but playing like that is part of what makes games enjoyable for me. To become as powerful and dangerous and to dominate as much as possible. Not because i enjoy crushing my opponent whether AI of human, but because it feels personally rewarding and gives me a sense of achievement

(i actually often feel sympathy or a little guilty when beating another person. To express that to the one i've just beaten roundly is usually interpreted as patronizing, condescending or sarcastic tho, so i stay away from that, and instead try not to brag and be a good, modest winner)

Anyway, i mentioned that in order to summarize my post: How would you go about most efficiently getting from newly starting out to having a good base of cards, from which to expand one's collection, and having at least a few competitive deck.

Would appreciate anything helpful you have to say! :D

https://playruneterra.com/en-sg/news/dev/giving-feedback-like-a-game-dev/

Basically, an exceptionally condescending way of saying that we don't want to listen to player feedback because we believe you to be misinformed and inarticulate.

So I'm going to try my best to communicate as if I was writing LOR's design document:

LOR is a card game where you attempt to satisfy unique questing conditions in order to level up (flip) your preffered champions.

These "quests" should guide the player towards certain "archetypes" and deck building decisions in a organic and non intrusive manner.

The implications being that these quests are powerful while also remaining mutually distinct and worth pursuing (this is where the fun is.)

Deck break downs:

Actual constructions of decks are comprised of reactive plays (fast speed spells) pro active plays (burst speed spells) and creatures wrapped up in a compellingly unique turn based pkg.

The Problem:

When decks become too homogenous, when champion level up conditions don't feel game winning, when reactive plays like stuns and bounces out weigh the value of playing high cost followers (5 plus) the game starts to lose that fun factor.

The conclusion:

People including popular streamers start to migrate from your game, you start introducing low impact expansions and nobody plays those cards, you also dangle the threat of rotation so people can't even play the decks they want to play and your game loses popularity.

The solution:

The same thing it's always been heavy handed comprehensive balance patches that nerf what's reducing viability and buff what's not viable. It's unfortunate, but it's the only way you can commit to keeping LOR a compelling and fun experience and get those streamers playing again.

Rather then say write a massive blog post about how your players are inarticulate trolls who can't speak "designer" when it's your own choices and decission making drawing your game and community into question.

So with the release of the newest mini set Lor has been kind of a mess.

A lot of the interesting and worth while play patterns that defined the game are increasingly being ironed out for what works.

Turbo strategies, do nothing strategies, general malaise and lack of interest/intrigue

Topped off now with what can only be described as streamer migration.

It began small by Swim and BBG quitting the game but now even Mogwai has left for a competitor.

I have to say that the future of Lor is looking darker then it has for quite some time.

I would say personally that the only real fix is going to be archetype support, hard buffs for freijord, and legitimate reasons to play midrange again.

Beyond that what is it that makes Lor truly appealing when compared to its competitors because I'm starting to forget.

The new champions obviously have found their competitive homes in rather straightforward pre-determined decks.

Vayne - provides extra attacks thats good, has a equipment angle that's also good

Beyoncee - just add Ionia for a cheaper and better karma

But what I haven't seen is archetypes framed around the new Darken equipment.

Demacia got a understated equipment come 5 mana challenger and bilgewater got a endgame draw payoff for casino decks.

We also got a host of new followers that don't see much play.

Most importantly we saw very little archetype support.

Where my big scary frostbite payoff or super spell, where's more ramp incentives, how about a new invoke card for slow targon?

Print more Elites?

Noxious allegiance?

I dont know it just feels like this set out of every LOR expansion to date made me want to try one Vein deck and I was like huh neat...done.

So first impressions of the new expansion is just more of the same:

https://youtu.be/EyhxuZ9Yk38

Is this Akshan list top tier? 

Yes because it's a card cycle champion that levels faster and more reliably then TF and he's also great.

The whole just add cycle champion, plus stall, plus deny thing, then you have your one win con is just kinda boring for me.

Like out of all the new possibilities for the new set and you settle in mini karma and not even with ezreal to like do something, but again akshan...it's brutal man.

So yeah views seem low for the mini expansion, interest similarly non remarkable, so I'm gonna be playing Overwatch 2.

Which has been sick honestly, team pushing the momentum of an entire game from thr back lines just by forcing people to try to solo que you is great, and then they forget how to play the game.

I think I have that effect in shooters as well as card games.

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Ultimately, there are two play patterns in LOR currently.

You either play your hand out like diarrhea from a dog's *** or your essentially play nothing at all.

Trying to level or develop unique wincons is essentially pointless, aka playing the game.

We saw this pretty heavily at seasonal and we see it on ladder, and everywhere else.

The only problem with that is, it doesn't actually matter what you're playing does it if everything you're playing is played the same?

Pretend you're playing mtg for 5 seconds you have a deck with cards, that do a thing.

Then there's a thing you're trying to do.

Then do that thing.

I know it's a lot to ask, but humor me.

You might remember how card games are supposed to work again

Freijord remains the absolute best region in the game, I think we all know that.

You can spend somewhere between 3-5 mana to frostbite something which is a strictly worse stun or bounce

You can spend 4 mana to possibly mystic shot more then one thing

and you can overpay on ramp

All that with your only hard removal option buried in ice being an astounding 9 mana

Even if you play the list optimally and run something proper like captain arnika at 8 you're still basically instantly loosing on tempo, or on control.

Essentially the worse case scenario.

So how do you fix the objectively best region in the game?

Give them wincons that win?

Give them control tools that control?

Give them tempo tools that tempo?

Basically anything really that would allow it to compete on the try hard scale that we seem to be inundated with in this game.

Don't get me wrong two years ago avalanche may have been okay, frostbite may have been okay, but by todays standards unplayable.

I want to say that a 2 mana ice shards is a step in the right direction and it is, but everything else is a joke.

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