Legends of Runeterra

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Which ally gives you the most value when you have two of them in play? Follower or champion?

why out of cards didnt post the patch notes for runeterra? is the staff that does it sick or something?

Gotta say comming off two of the best patches in Lor history that had massive gameplay ramifications to the extent of creating a new viable archetype - sundisc.

The most recent patch essentially does nothing...vaporize is still the most cost effective piece of removal in the game by a factor of 3 fast speed mana.

And the majority of cards that have been changed have a net 0 impact on the game with Shen being the only successfully tweaked champ for the better.

Gotta say Riot sure is scared of making the pro players sad these days but surely spinning your wheels with 40 plus card changes with a net 0 impact is essentially a giant waste of your staffs talented time and effort.

Find your balls again Riot take risks shake up the meta you did it before do it again.

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1. Most of the changes are unintentional buffs for meta decks. Sunlight blade nerfs hits Targon when buff dragon decks were already in decline.

2. Rock drake lost challenger so now the only decent counter to Annie got deleted, lolz

3. They successfully nerffed Thralls and Legion deserter recent cancers essentially created as a result of this horrible expansion

4. They tried buffing Azir Irelia and midrange freijord but it won't be enough.

5. There's still no reason not to run Annie card piles, she essentially gives any control deck the ability to set your opponent to 14-16 draw you a creature that 2 for ones, and increase your removal by 1 point, and gives you an overwhelm creature.

Talk about missing the point Riot

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is there any way to sync my runeterra collection here as I do with HS via HSreplay?

As the title suggests the champion shard-system in path of champions needs a change.

The main issue is that you get shards from chest at random which gives you no control over what champions you progress (which is already not so fun) but it gets WORSE with the fact that you can get shards for champions you already have on 3 stars which means that all additional shards just vanish with no compensation and it get's INCREDIBLY BAD by the fact that progressing in the campaign requires you to play champions from certain regions to progress.

I my case: I made all quests, all champion challenges and I am completely stuck now. Why? Because in all the shards that went nowhere I didn't manage to hit 40 shards for eighter bard or jhin leaving me with 0 champions from runeterra and unable to progress in the campaign.

Riot is known for creating rather fair mechanics and do a good job at pve gamemodes. It's unbelievable how such a bad game mechanic (that in a way breaks the gamemode) got into path of champions and riot better fixes it or the gamemode is dead for me

Oh and as we are already on it REMOVE the chance on relicts that make no sense in multiples (such like lost chapter) to drop once you have them. Cause all that does is delaying progress a lot for no reason at all

Killing him, bouncing him, putting him in a stasis statue doesn't work.

Is there ANY way you can make him trigger more than once?

https://app.mobalytics.gg/lor/stats/regions

Final meta stats for the expansion by play rate.

There isn't a single list being played right now above 53% because "decks" are bad right now.

Card piles are great, lists that don't try to do anything or have any sort of win con are excelling.

Now why is this problematic that every single deck that tries to do anything only wins 53% or less in a card game about synergies and deck building?

Probably don't have to explain it to you but nobody will want to brew anymore or play specific archetypes or role play as specific Champs.

Its sad really that we went from patches that had the highest deck diversity in LOR with healthy winrates across the board 

To everything essentially being bad because they cancel each other out, or are too wincon specific to be flexible enough to win in a meta where trying to win a specific way is bad.

Would of said I told you so but these numbers by play rate quantifiable prove I was right.

Hello there, I'm having this strange problem, and I'm probably just missing something obvious - when I log into LoR now, I'm always in that PvE content, Pathway of Champions or something, and I can't seem to figure out how to get back to the regular version of the game. What am I missing? :P

Just going to list a number of dead archetypes that could return and signal a possitive direction for the game 

1. Fiora Shen - Archetypal midrange pkg that plays for value and challenges and board interaction that no longer has a place in the game. 

2. Swain TF - A healthy and balanced control deck that only goes off on turn 8 and no longer has a place in the meta.

3. YOI - Love it or hate it Tristana is a card that needs to exist in some form and be playable.

4. Viktor Riven - The buffs to Viktor were an amazing possitive development that got killed this expansion

5. Darkness - One for one spell and creature trading control that no longer has a place in this meta (very saj)

6. Vlad Braum - Landmark creep is a thing and a 3 mana landmark granting your units tough and a minor stat buff just ain't it anymore

7. Tahm Kench Soraka - these Champs are so dead they are zombified but it was a unique deck while it lasted.

8. Banerman/Elites - Mono anything just isn't doing well right now unfortunately, and I do crave the simpler times when allegiance was a valid archetype.

9. Kenin - What an awesome card but unfortunately Ionia is massively under represented right now along with bandle city 

10. Zigs Landmark - what a fun card with a fun play pattern, and a fun level up, and fun unique deck building

11. Nami Fizz - Another example of a very high synergy and interesting play pattern deck just dead in the water. 

12. Shivana Fury - pretty interesting short lived archetype where you just make her as big as possible with double Fury triggers till she takes off to the sky

13. Day break - Another high synergy midrange deck that just doesn't cut it anymore because it's too "fair" and "balanced"

14. Kindred control - The idea of running a champ that has conditional removal as opposed to disintegrates guaranteed removal is a joke and thats the problem

15. Renekton Overwhelm - the sands will be stained with their blood, need I say more?

16. Gangplank Sejunai - yeah midrange plunder overstayed it's welcome but it was a unique deck that prioritized leveled Champs and it gets the win in my book 

17 . Discard aggro - I don't care if it's Jinx, Draven, or Sion or Rumble it's a sad day when the 30 discard cards that exist can't be played

18. Nasus Slay - can you imagine going for atrocity lethals in a world where vaporize exists? Yeah me neither.

19. Asol Ramp - ramp decks that don't aim to put 20 stats in board with feel the rush are essentially useless, so why would you ever try to level Asol?

20. TF Cassino - there is an entire collection of cards dedicated to leveling TF and playing slot bot or riptide junior that can not be played in this meta.

There we go 20 decks that are awesome, high synergy, and interesting in LOR 

That will never see play again because they are too fair and balanced.

So when I say that the current meta is not great, I'm referring to the fact that the card pool for brewing is limited to about 5% right now and that's the lowest it's ever been.

https://masteringruneterra.com/meta-tier-list/

Opting for the pro player stats this time to see if the declining winrate phenomenon and weird deck optimizations were holding true.

Here we see:

Aggro Annie sub 50%

Control Annie 51%

Thralls 53%

Bard Zed 50%

Deep 51%

Elise, Katarina, Viego - who cares

Lurk 50%

Ezreal, Catlyn 52%

Pantheon 53

And a bunch of new blah lists nobody cares about.

My point is when Majin Bae's website is saying things are sweaty butt, things are sweaty butt 

All this off the recent announcement that Riot knows they need to refocus on pvp, and it's no surprise things are a mess.

Riot has essentially admitted that pvp is a mess and that additional focus needs to be brought to the table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbE_O0rdlI4&t=44s

Only problem, it will be a month till we start seeing those amazing champion balance patches and card tweaks we were getting before.

We're entering into one of the most polarizing metas we've ever seen in LOR.

Winrates are down across the board and only very selective deck types are sucessful currently.

You have slow decks that go big, and slow decks that control.

You have aggro decks that go fast and burn decks that go burrr.

Midrange however, is arguable worse than its ever been and as a result is very unfriendly to brewing in general.

Oh you want to try playing Swain that's a 45% 

Ekko not even on the map

Sundisc dead

Every bard deck is 50%

Generally speaking LOR is a game that is more fun when synergy is strong last patch with a million archetypes being viable, and is less fun when I just want to play cool stuff equals I feel like I have cancer and want to die.

This ultimately feels like a streamer expansion, like they got them all in a room to provide ideas for what they thought was fun and would help them climb and kinda neglected the whole 90% of the player base kind of thing.

Just my two cents, high synergy equals fun, card piles equals zzzzz.

I'm not even sure I'm seeing Champs flip anymore that aren't free like Annie or Illoi. 

Like say what you want about movie time but players earned that sheeet. 

Aggro, control equals kill me.

So the expansion has been out long enough that we can start talking about the best new decks and their optimized variants that are winning 56% plus to make them top tier.

1. Annie always run with Jhin turns out that the only optimization that this deck needed was having stagehand and sun hawk on 2 for tempo stun so your turn 1 play can guarantee dmg.

2. Illoi probably the scariest and most versatile new card with 56% winrates with Jarvan, Lux, Thresh because it doesn't really matter Illoi is cracked tentacles are good, Overwhelm is good etc, everything else is just control and delay.

3. Bard, always run with Zed but you also do the handbuff stuff with inspiring mentor and greenglade elder which I figured if it wasn't freijord it would Ionia for thr turbo level. Everything else is payoff cards like the maker and highway men.

4. Thralls at 56% percent again thanks to their two new cards sand of time, and the extra 2 mana dude. That's all it takes sometimes.

5. Deep also at 56% thanks to the 4 mana healer, and the 3 mana removal both great cards into aggro.

Decks we are not seeing:

Yassao, despite all these amazing stun tools we just aren't seeing this guy played much. Possible because he has a 3 region spread and Jhin is a terrible stun card so more like 4 regions.

Are any of the old decks bad?

No you can still run your pantheon, your feel the rush, your traditional pirate aggro or scouts. It's just that you're going to feel more competition on ladder now, and more things to play around.

Is there a way to filter by latest cards released?

A new Epic Demacia Spell, Might of the Vanguard, has been revealed!

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A new Rare Noxus Spell, For Glory!, has been revealed!

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A new Common Freljord Spell, Inner Beast, has been revealed!

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So running 1 Jyn allows you to essentially have 15 agressive 1 drops - guaranteeing the dreaded tripple one drop round two play

12 2 drops including out of region options

Doom beast on 3

And all the spells you need are decimate, and noxion fervor 

And when your board gets answered just slam augmented experimenter to draw 3 cards?

Thats hilarious, at the end of the day the question isn't is Jyn or Annie a good card.

 Is having guaranteed cheap aggro plays, into burn, into draw good?

It probably isn't without value, without leveling Champs, but man is it funny.

For 2 days already, I don't see quest icon on the top. Can't see any quest.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?