Old Gods, New Tricks - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

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WOW, congratulations for the idea to give this guy a card hahahah. Loved the idea of the corruption mad him a murloc, but because of the double detup, he need a tribe tag and I believed that there's no one who feets well =(.

Good idea and a interesting concept to a booster minion in Paladin. I don't know if it's possible (at least I dont remember a card with some similar text) but I believed it will be extra intresting if he maintain the Elemental tag.

Liked the idea and think is pretty solid, but it's simple so I don't know if the voters will be excited to the card.

Amazing, powerful and neat card. If really exists in the game, definitely see play. Sadly, for the few cards I have made, it seems that people don't usually like existing cards in a body in the competitions =(.
For me, as a Magic player who see this occasionally, it's a 5-star.

Very flavorful and powerful, but like Demonxz95 said, need corrupt =/.

I liked, but for 9 mana can be very hard to Corrupt. Maybe try it at 7-mana and I think will be fine.

I liked the first option, but is banana strong. Star Student Stelina is a legendary with a similar effect, but has Outcast and "Discover-ish" as limitations and don't discard, and this version is much more strong. Maybe change to the "old Corrupt", like Chaos Gazer, but with some changes, like Corrupt 2 cards or something like that.

Loved. I think it's pretty good, strong and balanced. Excelent job.

Great idea in the use of corrupt. Maybe change the restriction to Spells, for Mage-flavor. 

Wailor: I like soda elemental sure it doesn't have the most on-point flavour but paladin also has Yrel and a demon who was last seen in space so you know.

DavnanKillder: I like Murloc Gardner but I think it's too similar to dragon caller Alana or whoever she was but when has that stopped blizzard?

Demonxz95: Alright mate you win in the meme competition this round, solid card I would see it actually being played I personally don't think it needs changes

Linkblade: I think it's a neat card but with druid and its mana cheating junk I think it a bit scary.

Fungusabao: I like it that's it I just think its a neat card But maybe increase the stats just a little or make it cost ever so slightly less because otherwise, it falls into the same group as clown you blow all your mana to summon chad mc elemental only for him to take a polymorph or twisting nether to the face. And as with Link mana cheating druid junk could make this work

Mloodmesfit: I like the other version since warlock already has a multi corrupt card it would be neat if that was like a mini gimmick for them since they are the most corrupted class, and it looks fine balance-wise.

Arkasuar: Look fine and strong to me I'd say its perfectly powerful without being crazy

Neoguli: Yeah definitely needs an in hand rework or something since otherwise, you might just get an absolutely dead card later

MenacingBagel, First off, I love the flavor. The guy in the murloc costume being corrupted and turned into an actual murloc is really cool. As for balance, it feels bit swingy. If you can't corrupt it, it is really bad. Corrupt cards should be sub-par in their pre-corrupted version, but I think this is just too bad. Also, in a dedicated murloc deck, you probably aren't playing anything that costs 6+ mana. I would reduce the cost and stats a little, and make the effect a bit smaller just to make it a bit more practical in a murloc deck.

Wailor, Becoming a copy of the target minion feels a bit random. It is fine in terms of balance and playability, but the second ability doesn't seem to have any connection to the flavor of the card.

DavnanKillder, I like the shaman card. But the corrupted version feels like kind of a lot for only a 2 mana corrupt card. I would increase the base health, and reduce the stats of the corrupted version. Murloc Gardener is probably my least favorite of the three. By turn 8, I think you could just say "fill your board with treants" instead of "for each spell you've cast this game". Also, corrupting an 8 cost minion is super card, especially for a token deck, and the reward feels a bit disappointing for the amount of work you would have to put into it. I do like the warrior card, but I think reducing the cost of your weapon is kind of useless since you will probably only equip one weapon over the coarse of this minions life. Similarly, buffing weapons as you equip them isn't very useful since you will probably only buff one. I would make him buff the attack of the weaopns in your hand, and when corrupted buff their durability as well.

Demonxz95, I like it. Browser references aside, I am a big fan of spell damage and would love to see more of it. I think you have hit a good balance of having it be playable on curve, but also worth hanging onto to corrupt in the future.

Linkblade91, I am a fan of 9 mana corrupt cards since the one we got in the expansion is a little bit of a letdown. The effect is pretty good for the cost, but I think it should pull 3 copies on the corrupt version instead of 2. Also, you should fix the wording to make it more consistent. Either, have the first version specify summoning a copy. Or, change the second version to pull two minions out of your deck.

TheHoax91, As Demon mentioned, you need to use the corrupt mechanic. Right now you would be disqualified.

FungusABoa, First off, you should say "an" instead of "a" since the following word (enemy) starts with a vowel. Concerning Balance, I don't think the corrupted version is good enough to justify how hard it would be to corrupt it. Dealing 7 damage is arguably better than having +7/+7 since it is more proactive and helps you to control the board. I would have the base version lose taunt, and have the second version gain taunt, and +7/+7, and keep the 7 damage battlecry.

BloodMefist, for the first version, I think it should cost a little more since straight up discarding a card from your opponents hand is really powerful. And even if it isn't that powerful, it is a very tilting mechanic and shouldn't be easily accessible. For the second version, I would put it in another class since warlock already has a double corrupt card at 4 mana epic, and it would feel weird if they go another and no other class got any. I think the effect is fine, but you should adjust the wording so that you don't have that one weird line in the middle with only one word in it.

Arkasaur, I love it. It is very flavorful with Shamans dragon breath having the same effect. I would love to have more proactive and efficient removal in shaman that doesn't have overload. I would reduce the cost and health to 5 to make it a bit easier to corrupt, but aside from that I think it is great!

Neoguli, This is really hard to evaluate, which isn't necessarily a good thing when people are judging your card. Having the cost increased is an interesting mechanic and not something we see a lot of. And when combined with corrupt it is even stranger. The higher the cost is, the harder it is to corrupt, but then once you do corrupt it it is a 0 mana 4/4 with rush. You could alternatively just not play cards and drop him on turn 3. I am not entirely sure what to make of this in terms of playability and balance, but I will say this; mage is a class which recently has taken on a theme of extreme spellslinging. They use cards like Sorcerer's Apprentice and Evocation to cast a ton of spells in one turn, and usually they don't play a lot of big expensive cards. Your card wants the opposite, it fits into a deck that plays only a few, more expensive cards. The design of this card clashes with the general design of the mage class.

 

This card isn't allowed, since Murlocs is a base tribe.

It's a shame, because the flavor is quite cool.

Forge Elemental is probably my favorite, but the artwork is pretty bad. Besides that, it could use a slight buff (+1 Attack, for instance) and it would be nice if you could connect its flavor to Darkmoon, at least in some slight way.

One of the best ideas so far. I think you could make the Corrupted token as well, since finding an evil kitsune art shouldn't be difficult.

Regarding balance, it looks a bit too strong, especially since uncorrupted cards tend to be about the same power level as average Basic cards. I would suggest a 2/4 or a 3/3 statline.

It's a bit bland for my taste. Its Corrupted form is a bit underwhelming, especially considering how hard it is to corrupt a 9-cost card.

Not sure if I like it. The base form seems stronger than the Corrupted one, but swaping them doesn't feel right either. I guess you could always make it a 10/10 Taunt with the Corrupted effect being the 7 damage, but that would be too similar to Fizzy Elemental.

I don't know, I think I'd try a different idea.

I personally prefer the first version, but people tend to dislike disruptive effects like this.

The other version is also fine. I think Warlock is the appropriate class for it, especially since multi-corrupt seems to be their thing (Cascading Disaster).

My favorite card so far, although it should probably be a bit weaker, since its base form is a better Fire Elemental.

I agree with other people that it should only count spells, since that would make both forms more balanced.

In terms of flavor, it has the problem that it depecticts a humanoid animal, which are not Beasts (see Worgen Infiltrator or Tuskarr Totemic)

The first minion needs a tribe tag in order to be allowed.

The second one needs a class, as you pointed out. I agree that Warlock would probably be the best fit. Plus, it should be a Common card, since the effect is very basic.

Wailor: I like the effect, but the artwork and beast tag really don't fit it.

KANSAS: For the Zookeeper, you can change the text to "Corrupt: It costs 4 or more instead" since many of the corrupts don't restate the entire battlecry. It might be better to buff it and put the mana at 5 or 6 though, since right now the RNG could make this card way too powerful. And I think putting the frog in Warlock would work great.

Neoguli: Yeah, that should shift to while in hand instead of this game, because otherwise you'll pretty much never get to play it unless you start with it and play next to no cards.

Arkasaur: I like the idea, but maybe drop the cost and stats down because generally higher cost minions have much more powerful corrupt effects.

BloodMefist: I think both of these cards are interesting. I'd probably go with the discard one though. If you do go with the double corrupt one, it might fit better in either Demon Hunter or Druid.

FungusABao: I feel like you should lower the stat gain from the corrupted version and keep the battlecry on both, a 14/14 Taunt is still really good but sometimes you might want the battlecry more. Since it's already going to take a 10 Cost card to buff it, I think it can afford to keep the battlecry.

TheHoax91: Demonxz95 already mentioned, but you need a corrupt mechanic. Maybe it costs less but the minions only cost 1 when it's corrupted?

linkblade91: I like it, not much to add.

Demonxz95: Not very flashy, but it works. Maybe specify "Spell Damage +3 instead" since right not it looks like it might add the +3 to the +1.

DavnanKillder: Out of the 3, I like the Forge Elemental the most.

MenacingBagel: This needs a tribe tag, maybe you could find mech murloc artwork and make it a mech?

MenacingBagel - Really cool idea that transforms this minion into a real Murloc. Probably give him Stealth after corrupted to make it more like a Rougue? And I think if you find a art that fits the corrupted version and make it out would make it better.

Wailor - I am gonna say I like the Priest version better, copying minions seems like what priests would do. Probably make it a dual class minion can make this card works better?

DavnanKillder - First I want point out some wording problems: For the Machine, Just say "Gain +2/+2" for the Corrupt, and for the Gardener, It should be "them" but not "then". Those are all interesting idea, Personally I prefer the Traine-Machine better, it is simple, and flavorable.

Demonxz95 - Really like this simple design here, but the corrupt is probably a bit OP for a 3 mana card.

linkblade91 - It is a really good card for Astral Communion Durid in Wild, I love it. The effect is Strong enough for a 9 mana corrupt card for me. and the art fits it pretty good.

BloodMefist - For me, the first card is more interesting but the second design is more flavorable. Probably change the art and name for the first one and it will make it better.

Arkasaur - Simaple and good effct, it is a good design in my point of view.

Neoguli - Interesting idea, I really like that design. Personally, I prefer the Malevolent Bat better, I think you are good to go with it.

KANSAS - I love this toad! Probably make it 0/1 and "Corrupt: Gain +3/+1" to make it more "frogy"？I don't know.

Hordaki - I believe the current version is flavorable and I think it should be good with 5-cost.

grumpymonk - Both are good, Personally like the Ringmaster's Servant Better.

bardozan - Very Interesting Design, but I think it is not qualified because it does not have a minion type. Probably make it a Beast or Mech?

From both of these cards I like Flamental more, mainly because it's corrupted art is more fitting to the original. That seem to have a real impact on how people rate cards. Also from Natural Element's text I can interpret like it affects itself, because cards which do not usualy state 'other' in their text(Dread Infernal, Tending Tauren, Scavenging Shivarra). I do not know if it was intended to do so, and even if it did, it still may be confusing, because a voter could think that you just worded it wrong, and therefore vote 1 or 2 stars less. Also, I found an easy to repair mistake in Flamental's text - There should be '.' instead of ',' between 'Taunt' and 'Battlecry' (Magtheridon, Claw Machine, Mogu Fleshshaper).

I realy like the first version, unfortunately it does not meet criteria. However, the second version is not as good as first in my opinion (also I still don't know if it do not break rules). It seem to be quite out of place for this to be considered Murloc, while Costumed Entertainer is not. If you don't have other ideas, and one will confirm this do not break rules you can go with this, maybe reduce the buff from +3/+3 to +2/+2. However, if you are ever planning to use this design again, without these requirements, first version is probably better.

I think this is fine, balance is good as well (it's something between Piloted Shredder and Piloted Sky Golem.

I've seen a very similar card submitted, I assume it's yours, but if not then that may lower ratings on your card.

This seem to be fine, nothing much to say.

Seem to be fine.