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Fixing Go Hard & Zillian

Submitted 3 years, 1 month ago by

Its a really delicate balance figuring out how to counter swarming aggro decks that seem to be everywhere right now.

Some people claim braum does well but this doesn't work because you go around him.

Some people say you can out heal them with targon this doesn't work either because you can't out heal their tempo.

Some people say there is no counter and that felt wrong to me.

Finally I figured out a list that will beat every aggro deck thrown at it 9/10 games guaranteed.

Its only weak to big overwhelm dudes and even then there are lines of play to mitigate this.

I bring you Zillian Go Hard - with Elise of course as is standard.

It just turns out that time bombs are faster then red cards these days, especially if you pair it with all the draw in shadow isles  and healing.

We also have acess to deck buffing, and draw fixing which work great with pack your bags

Now out of all these cards you're probably looking at brood awakening and scratching your head, but it was a popular aggro  counter back when burn aggro was everywhere and you'd pair it with lux.  It turns out it works great during this aggro meta too, and gives sac fodder.

  • Nifty129's Avatar
    Banned 590 1235 Posts Joined 05/29/2020
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    Its a really delicate balance figuring out how to counter swarming aggro decks that seem to be everywhere right now.

    Some people claim braum does well but this doesn't work because you go around him.

    Some people say you can out heal them with targon this doesn't work either because you can't out heal their tempo.

    Some people say there is no counter and that felt wrong to me.

    Finally I figured out a list that will beat every aggro deck thrown at it 9/10 games guaranteed.

    Its only weak to big overwhelm dudes and even then there are lines of play to mitigate this.

    I bring you Zillian Go Hard - with Elise of course as is standard.

    It just turns out that time bombs are faster then red cards these days, especially if you pair it with all the draw in shadow isles  and healing.

    We also have acess to deck buffing, and draw fixing which work great with pack your bags

    Now out of all these cards you're probably looking at brood awakening and scratching your head, but it was a popular aggro  counter back when burn aggro was everywhere and you'd pair it with lux.  It turns out it works great during this aggro meta too, and gives sac fodder.

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  • FenrirWulf's Avatar
    1005 367 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    Any particular reason for 0 copies of Dunekeeper or Vile Feast and 3 Xenotype Researchers instead when your wincon is Go Hard? I can't really see how you're triggering Nightfall on Doombeast consistently outside of Go Hard.

    Take my words with a grain of salt. I'm unranked and only play casuals lmao.

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  • minuano28's Avatar
    Mountain 700 862 Posts Joined 09/10/2020
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    It's weird to put vengeance x3 when your goal is to counter aggro.

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  • Nifty129's Avatar
    Banned 590 1235 Posts Joined 05/29/2020
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    Xenotype is exceptionally important it turns your little dudes into bigger dudes over prolonged games, and given the fact that these units have such a low cost aggro can't out tempo you.

    As for doombeast it's an uncounterable body plus healing which is everything you want against aggro also the drain helps you get closer to a pack your bags win.

    The decks great only problem is that it looses to other  counter  deck of the freijord variety this is to be expected. You basically have a choice do I want to beat aggro, or do I want to beat everyone else and be the aggro.

    For that I can recommend plenty of tempo lists that will absolutely destroy dragons, Nasus and whatever other midrange list is popular right now.

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  • FenrirWulf's Avatar
    1005 367 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    I'm not asking why you're running Doombeast, the card's good after all. I'm asking why you are running very few low-cost cards so that you can proc Doombeast's Nightfall such as Dunekeeper or Scrying Sands maybe. Xenotype Researchers just feels a bit weak to me as well since it's just a 3/3 body and also because you have a lot of 3 drops as well. Like you're running very few low-cost followers for the purpose of countering aggro or do you just hope that you'll draw into Go Hard or Time Bombs?

    Btw I'm not telling you to put these cards in or take those cards out, I just want to know how does the average games go with this deck.

    Take my words with a grain of salt. I'm unranked and only play casuals lmao.

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