New Rogue Minion - Blackjack Stunner

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A new Rare Rogue Minion, Blackjack Stunner, has been revealed!

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Robot Black Lotus 1265 5754 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 4 years, 9 months ago

    A new Rare Rogue Minion, Blackjack Stunner, has been revealed!

    Blackjack Stunner Card Image

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 9 months ago

    So basically a 3-mana Sap with an upside.

    The secret we've already seen is already more than playable so this will be a natural fit. Gonna be really hard to play for tempo against Rogue now.

    Can also be used on your own minions in emergencies

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Emptyness's Avatar
    Supporter 520 525 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 4 years, 9 months ago

    They tried the secrets in Rogue back in KnC. I hope they do better job now, but I am afraid of a tempo/secret mage on steroids type of deck.

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  • RandomGuy's Avatar
    430 614 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 9 months ago

    The new rogue secret is already a good stand alone card. And it synergiezes with this card.

    Not hard to imagine this card seeing play.

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Detective Pikachu 2575 3348 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 9 months ago

    Mana cost & card text make it soooooo flexible
    ... I already hate playing against it : "I'm about to ruin this 10-cost minion's whole career."

    Edit : minus 1 ? 

    Struggle with Heroic Galakrond's Awakening? I got your back : 

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  • Koetti's Avatar
    1095 863 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 4 years, 9 months ago

    This alone should guarantee that Rogues will put Secrets into their Decks.

    And maybe they'll even be decent this Time. 

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  • Haffax733's Avatar
    Devoted Outlander 1035 297 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 4 years, 9 months ago

    Sap already allows for some strong tempo swings, but this effect is way stronger. Also comparable Freezing Trap, but you can choose which minion is returned to your opponents hand.

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  • maverick's Avatar
    Enjoys Cake 220 21 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 years, 9 months ago

    Thematically, makes sense for rogues to be a strong secret class.  I hope they continue to reveal cards that support secret rogue.  Ambush is solid; add a couple more secrets and a couple more minions with synergy and we're in business. 

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  • troY's Avatar
    Funnel Cakes 250 271 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 4 years, 9 months ago

    Depending on what the remaining Rogue secrets are this card is between strong and insane :o

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  • Tofukozo's Avatar
    250 48 Posts Joined 07/15/2019
    Posted 4 years, 9 months ago

    lovely!! This will make for such great tempo. I really hope the secrets will be more impactful than last time. A rogue secret tempo like deck sounds really interesting!

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    ABSOLUTELY INSANE CARD. Good early game to disrupt aggro, and late game it can Sap a 9+ cost card and make it unplayable. Amazing card. 

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    I already hate this card it's so tilting you not only have a discounted sap.. but they cost 2 more this is basically a conditional assassinate for 1 mana.

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  • liontail's Avatar
    Draconically Dedicated 210 277 Posts Joined 09/04/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    discounted sap with a penalty effect to the opponent seems pretty op. this is good to have by just putting a secret or 2 in a rogue deck.

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  • Guenh's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 725 633 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    This card is a Freezing Trap with a body and not random. So strong. Easy 5 star for me (we will hate this card)

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  • allthehype's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 630 739 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    It seems like secret rogue will be viable, so this will be played a lot. Really strogng removal that could also get rid of those pesky elusives.

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  • Xerawolf's Avatar
    Derpy Elf 175 37 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    Im gonna love playing this card and hate playing against it. 

    Its so strong, so flexible. Its a Freezing Trap on demand and not random tagert. Plus it has a body and the New rogue se rets are cheap and strong.

     

    I want to make a secret stealth highlander rogue deck right now! 

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2285 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    This card is insane. Targeted Freezing Trap? Yes please! Here's the thing though: you can always try to avoid throwing your 9 or 10 cost minion into a Freezing Trap (making it unplayable forever), but this? I wonder if it should say "No higher than 10" like Embiggen does.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    Very strong card - i think Secret Rogue will be one of the best decks this meta!

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  • Erodos's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 945 1019 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    Absolutely busted, this card is the reason that secrets might see play in rogue. Freezing Trap is already played, this costs 1 less mana and is targeted. I predict that this card will be nerfed at some point.

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  • Xarkkal's Avatar
    Servant of Illidan 910 1321 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    Targetable Freezing Trap with a body for only 1 more mana. This honestly seems a little busted to me. Would not be surprised if this gets the nerf hammer. 

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  • Vandaren's Avatar
    620 636 Posts Joined 06/05/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    Could replace Sap on the list. And with the upside can make opponents life miserable.

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  • StormKnightSera's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1720 2915 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    I expect this card to induce a LOT of hate, from myself included. Freezing Trap can be frustrating to play against, and you can control how that plays out; with this, the Rogue has all of the control.

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  • economicaooc's Avatar
    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    Good spot removal against aggro and nice against 10 or 9 mana minions. Strength against aggro will depend on the ability of your secrets to not proc when played on turn 2. I imagine cheat death would be the best for that, but also is a pretty poor card against aggro. Maybe Dirty Tricks?

    This post is discussing the wild format.

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  • PLANETCRUNCH's Avatar
    E.V.I.L. Dragon 820 1248 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    It's a 1 mana sap with a condition, that's super easy to pull off if you have that other rogue legendary. 

     

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Detective Pikachu 2575 3348 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    Sap on a twig ^^

    Struggle with Heroic Galakrond's Awakening? I got your back : 

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  • Almaniarra's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 1000 1509 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From Horus

    Sap on a twig ^^

    Better than being Sap on a stick, if you ask me. Even better than Freezing Trap. This card is hilarious.

    Unpopular Opinion Incarnate

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar
    595 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    Great tempo play.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    This card will be very annoying to play against. Getting a cheaper, better Sap with a body attached is amazing. 5 star card.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • dedidedi's Avatar
    125 60 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    better, it's a 1 mana sap because you played the secret the turn before, and possibly is still there

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  • Meteorite12's Avatar
    670 696 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    What Kidnapper should’ve been. Don’t really see any reason not to run this, the secrets are relatively good, and this is just a targeted freezing trap in that case

    Who needs consistency when you could have fun?

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  • Draketh's Avatar
    Darkmaster 1570 1395 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    A cheaper Sap with stats on board for Secret Rogue, so it's looking like the archetype will be very strong.

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  • ElSabidon's Avatar
    Salty Dog 1030 685 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    Yeah, no, this will be nerfed eventually. It's a really good card at 3(!!!) mana. The amount of tempo this card gives is insane.

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  • Car's Avatar
    185 226 Posts Joined 03/31/2020
    Posted 4 years, 8 months ago

    Sap on a stick for 1, this is great and a necessity for secret decks.

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2285 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    So just about everyone here predicted this card would be insane. Now we've had it in the meta for a few weeks, I'm curious what people's impressions are? I haven't seen a ton of secret rogues, but those I've seen are all running this card, probably x2. It definitely gets the job done!

    I still have misgivings about this removing 9-10 cost minions, though. It hasn't happened to me yet, but just the idea of essentially a 1-mana Assassinate that takes up hand space and has a body and bypasses Elusive. I know I'd be pretty steamed if someone chucked an 11-mana Ysera, for example, into my hand. Scrapyard Colossus is also seeing some play, against expectations. Does anyone else think Blackjack Stunner should say "not more than 10"?

    "Be excellent to each other." -Bill and Ted

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  • Xarkkal's Avatar
    Servant of Illidan 910 1321 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From Car

    Sap on a stick for 1, this is great and a necessity for secret decks.

    No, it's a targeted freezing trap on a stick for 1 mana. This card really needs to cost 3.

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  • Ethardoth's Avatar
    Harpy Lieutenant 435 389 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    Broken card as predicted, they should at least make it cost (2). Still really strong as that, but acceptable, since it comes with a condition.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5610 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From Pezman

    So just about everyone here predicted this card would be insane. Now we've had it in the meta for a few weeks, I'm curious what people's impressions are? I haven't seen a ton of secret rogues, but those I've seen are all running this card, probably x2. It definitely gets the job done!

    I still have misgivings about this removing 9-10 cost minions, though. It hasn't happened to me yet, but just the idea of essentially a 1-mana Assassinate that takes up hand space and has a body and bypasses Elusive. I know I'd be pretty steamed if someone chucked an 11-mana Ysera, for example, into my hand. Scrapyard Colossus is also seeing some play, against expectations. Does anyone else think Blackjack Stunner should say "not more than 10"?

    Ive seen my fair share of secret rogue. The card's "fair", mostly because it requires a secret to be active. That means to use this effectively rogue has to hold on to one secret in their hand. And that rogue deck has to put in secrets, making it harder to fit in other stuff.

    My opinion is that Sap is still more efficient if you're playing aggro. Even if this card didn't exist, Flik Skyshiv can still reliably destroy big druid, especially when used with Shadowstep.

    Its fairly annoying to have a card you cant play stuck in your hand, but playing one big minion against rogue decks has always been inefficient anyway so it doesn't exactly cover rogue's weaknesses.

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  • Avalon's Avatar
    Salty Dog 1550 2105 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From Xarkkal
    Quote From Car

    Sap on a stick for 1, this is great and a necessity for secret decks.

    No, it's a targeted freezing trap on a stick for 1 mana. This card really needs to cost 3.

    Well it costs 3, since you also have to play a secret to get the effect.

    Conditional cards are (almost) always very good, because it's not guaranteed that you'll get the bonus.

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  • HyperOrange's Avatar
    860 65 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    Insane card.

    Coming soon from a HyperTree near you!

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  • Majere's Avatar
    490 180 Posts Joined 06/01/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From HyperOrange

    Insane card.

    Yup. Just won me a game in a secret gala mirror. Opponent played tog's treasure that summoned 2 x legendary minions, to summon 2 x Colossus of the Moon. I played a secret and 2 x Blackjack Stunner to send them back to his hand and make them unplayable. Basically worked as a 4 mana plague of death that left me with 2 1:2 minons and a secret. Totally OP

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  • AngryShuckie's Avatar
    1705 1735 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From Majere
    Quote From HyperOrange

    Insane card.

    Yup. Just won me a game in a secret gala mirror. Opponent played tog's treasure that summoned 2 x legendary minions, to summon 2 x Colossus of the Moon. I played a secret and 2 x Blackjack Stunner to send them back to his hand and make them unplayable. Basically worked as a 4 mana plague of death that left me with 2 1:2 minons and a secret. Totally OP

    There is little doubt the card is very strong, but your comparison to Plague of Death is misleading. You used each as single target removal not AoE, and rogue has the best single target removal in the game already. That part is crucial: there is a bigger design point at play here with every class getting cards that seem OP compared to what other classes get. Sometimes they actually are OP and need nerfing, but often they are just representations of a class' strengths.

    This effect is doubled when there is a condition you have to meet as well, e.g. having a secret in play (especially in a class with very few secrets to choose from), which always entails a more powerful effect. So when you have a conditional battlecry that is also something the class is inherently the best at, it is always going to look crazy strong, but perhaps not actually over powered when everything is taken into consideration.

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  • Majere's Avatar
    490 180 Posts Joined 06/01/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From AngryShuckie
    Quote From Majere
    Quote From HyperOrange

    Insane card.

    Yup. Just won me a game in a secret gala mirror. Opponent played tog's treasure that summoned 2 x legendary minions, to summon 2 x Colossus of the Moon. I played a secret and 2 x Blackjack Stunner to send them back to his hand and make them unplayable. Basically worked as a 4 mana plague of death that left me with 2 1:2 minons and a secret. Totally OP

    There is little doubt the card is very strong, but your comparison to Plague of Death is misleading. You used each as single target removal not AoE, and rogue has the best single target removal in the game already. That part is crucial: there is a bigger design point at play here with every class getting cards that seem OP compared to what other classes get. Sometimes they actually are OP and need nerfing, but often they are just representations of a class' strengths.

    This effect is doubled when there is a condition you have to meet as well, e.g. having a secret in play (especially in a class with very few secrets to choose from), which always entails a more powerful effect. So when you have a conditional battlecry that is also something the class is inherently the best at, it is always going to look crazy strong, but perhaps not actually over powered when everything is taken into consideration.

    Yeah, I know. The key word in my post is that it 'worked' as a Plague of Death, ie in that particular instance. I'm not suggesting the card is an aoe every time it's played, rather that, in the situation I described, it cleared the opponent's board without triggering deathrattle / reborn mechanics, and prevented the opponent from being able to replay those cards.

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