Spacial Awareness - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

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@anchorm4n - I love it. Maybe next year the competition will be bday themed! 

@linkblade91 - I personally like the space reference with The Vindicaar, though you have to think about people who might not be familiar with the lore to understand the space reference. Meteor Fall only feels spacey because of the name, the effect and art have no connection to the theme. Out of these 3, I like The Vindicaar that destroys the enemy hero. Makes Nozari have a end game plan to staying alive so long. Interesting build around card that is simple, yet can't just be thrown in every deck.

@Demonxz95 - I like Starace, Solar Entity the most of these 2. Celestial Crafter just feels like a "feels bad" high-roll discover card. I do have some concerns with Starace basically being unkillable if used properly, but it's an interesting effect that mages would love to play with. 

Linkblade91 - Meteor Fall gets my vote out of the three. I'd say the random element alone justifies an enemy only restriction on the targeting, but other than that I like it a lot, and it references the ability in WoW/WC3 which is always a plus for me. As for the other two, I dislike Insta-win mechanics, and the 8 mana one does feel too similar to The Boomship, which, while I understand Big Paladin needs that kind of card, it doesn't stand out.

Demonxz95 - I love Celestial Crafter. I'm not generally an art driven person, but that art…. As for the card itself, I loved playing around with Ivory Knight, and that's the card that this reminds me of. No class has enough big spells to make this overwhelming reliable in order to create a Spiteful Summoner situation, and having to make the decision whether to take a bad high cost spell, or a good low cost spell introduces a lot of skill to balance the RNG factor. Starace is good, but Celestial Crafter wins for me hands down.

Xarkkal - Interesting, but, like with many big spells, Kael'thas causes problems. In a vacumn this could be too strong. Kael'thas makes this horribly broken. I can't really think of anything else.

KANSAS - Mirrored space dragons is an interesting idea. I would consider swapping the stat lines, so the offensive stat line gets the damage, and the defensive gets the health. Other than that, I haven't got any suggestions, it's a solid idea executed well.

Basilanguis - Gravity Well and Feed the Void are ok, but neither really feel like they fit the class. Priest removal has generally had some kind of restriction, where as Mage focuses on direct damage rather than straight up removal. Meteor however, is a nice idea. Having it repeat is something that HS hasn't really explored yet. I would watch the wording though, as Demonxz95 mentioned.

Wailor - Pure idea wise, I'll say Space-Time Rip. The flavour, art, and idea are brilliant, but it's massively overcosted. Maiev has a similar effect, but for twice as long, and comes with a 4/3 body attached. This could be 2 mana. The Big Freeze is uninteractive, and would require working out how to show how long they're frozen for. Gravity Crash is ok, but it doesn't jump out at me.

Menacingbagel - What portals? Karazhan portals? or any card with Portal in it's name? Needs a bit more clarification before I can offer much. 

Bloodmefist - Algalon breaks an unwritten rule of HS cards, which is it can never have more than 4 lines of text. The only fix I can think of is drop the last part, and increase the number of spells required. Mage, Rogue and DH can all churn out 5-6 spells in a single turn fairly easily, so maybe increase it to 7? Still achievable, but it would be something to build around. Event Horizon is an idea I've seen a few times before (not accusing you of anything, just a slightly common idea) and doesn't feel… special? Colour from Space is my favourite here. The idea of having a size limited evolve is really cool, although I think this could be 2 mana given that restriction.

Pokeniner: Nether-terrestrial is the most interesting effect of the 3 but the stats are wrong. For 8 mana why wouldn't you just cast Twisting Nether the card? I think it should cost less, like 6 (with the attack and health adjusted accordingly) so this could be a way to cast Twisting Nether before turn 8, but with a gimmick. Extraterrestrial arcane looks fun but the viability of it is questionable. Mage never really spammed elementals, but i suppose you could do something otk ish with this spell. Kirin Tor Astrologist is strong, but the least interesting of the 3.

shaveyou: Homemade Shuttle is hard to appreciate. It's just as likely to be a 3 mana 4/4 with an upside as it is to destroy your entire early game presence. Interesting concept, i like it. Hunter's Moon doesn't seem space-ish enough for me, and balance wise it's a bit scary. In the case of the enemy having a bunch of small tokens, a Starfall or Swipe could turn this into a mega buff, though i suppose that's the ideal scenario.

BloodMefist: Color from Space is my favorite. Great balance, not overwhelming like some of the other Evolve cards, and nice reference too. Algalon is too complicated, too many words to fit into 4 lines of text. Event Horizon seems like a warlock version of Crushing Walls. Flavor wise, wouldn't only the furthest minions from the black hole survive? 

MenacingBagel: I love me some dragon, but so far all space mage stuff has been tied to elementals, so i think maybe you should change the tribe.

Wailor: I swear i didn't copy your card. I legit just saw that you made a similar one to my Crack in Time as i'm writing this feedback. If you think it's too similar to yours, i'll abandon it. Now for actual feedback, 4 mana seems a bit too much. It's not really a true removal so i think 3 should be ok. Gravity Crash is my favorite, i made a very similar thing for a custom class once. The Big Freeze is a bit meh, while it is a strong control card, the effect is not as interesting as the other two.

KANSAS: I like the card, but it bothers me they don't have the same cost if they're supposed to have mirrored effects and stats.

Xarkkal: Seems a bit too strong. Gather your Party was 6 mana for 1 random minion. I'd reduce the cost of the spell and how many minions it recruits, maybe an 8 mana summon a 3, 4 and 5 minion.

Archom4n: I like Red Planet. Hero Power might be worse than Unseal the Vault one in most situations, but its easier to complete so i think its fine, just change the Hero Power art and maybe the name and you're good to go.

Linkblade91: Meteor fall for shure, but try to make less random and highrolly. Flavour is fitting the theme for me, but if i was you, i'would wait for more opinions, for it is indeed debatable.

Demonxz95: Crafter is WAY to highrolly, maybe make it discover spells that cost 5 or less or something? And Starace is fine for me, but MAYBE 4 mana would be more fair.

Xarkkal: I Like it. If Tip the Scales+ Prismatic Lens is fine, i think this should be too. It keeps Avina, Malygos, Ysiel, Hadronoxx, etc out of range, so maybe theres no dumb combos that might come out of it. But i would give it a Wild expansion watermark, to keep it away from Kael'thas in standard.

Kansas: Didn't like it in any way, sorry.

BasilAnguis: Both Gravity Well and Comet are pretty nice, but maybe Comet should have Twinspell or something, for the current wording might be "Confusing for new players". Feed the Void is meh.

Wailor: Gravity Crush is my favorite. Maybe Space-Time Rip should remove or shuffle the minion somewhere to be more flavourful.

MenacingBagel: I like it, but you should probably change the watermark to Old Gods,Karazhan or Gadgetzan so it would rotate along side the Karazhan's portal.

BloodMefist: Color from Space is my fav, but maybe (3) more is a little too much. Event of Horizon seens like a worse Enter the Colliseum and Algalon's text is too long, 4 lines is the limit for Hearthstone's cards.

shaveyou: I like Hunter's Moon , but 4 mana seens more fair, since a mid sized board is enough to turn your minions unstoppable monsters. Another art for it would be nice too.

anchorm4n, is this effect until the end of the game? If so then it should say on the card, if not then this is a worse version of Violet Illusionist. If it is a permanent effect than this is a really cool card, but it does seem a bit out of place in Priest. The only time you are taking damage on your turn is when you are in fatigue. Maybe if this was a neutral card?

Linkblade, I like Meteor Fall a lot. I am not sure if it would be a very good card unless it said random minion instead of random character, but the flavor is there and it does look like a card Blizzard might make.

Demonxz95, For Celestial Crafter, you don't need to say "with the same cost as the chosen spell" you could just say "with the same cost". That aside I think Starace is better. Though if it is supposed to be pronounced "stariss" than it should probably be spelled like that. As it is now people are going to pronounce it "starace". But that is a minor thing. About balance, I think at 3 mana it is just too expensive. I think 2 mana spell damage +2 is fine.

Xarkkal, Planetary Alignment is probably too slow to be good. It is really hard to set up a good combo because you don't know what you are going to have drawn at that point. It has the potential to highroll and set up a big swingy win, but you also may very well draw wrong and the card is useless. I would maybe reduce the cost and effect of the card so that it is a bit more reliable, and has less potential to swing the game out of nowhere.

BasilAnguis, I like Gravity Well a lot. It has solid flavor and it is playable.

Wailor, I like Space-Time rift best. You can use it in a lot of ways, and it would probably create some combos which is always fun. 4 mana may be kind of a lot though considering it is only going away for a single turn. I would make it 3 mana.

MenacingBagel, The card is probably too slow and expensive for what it does. I have played enough [Hearthstone Card (Swamp Queen Hagatha) Not Found] to know that 7 mana 5/5 add high value cards to your hand isn't usually worth playing. Maybe if it were a 5 mana 4/5 add 2 portals?

Bloodmefist, Even Horizon is okay, but probably too similar to Twisting Nether. Color From Space is cool, evolve stuff is always fun. And this also won't create stupid shenanigans with Desert Hare. Algalon the Observer is interesting, but it breaks the rule of Custom Hearthstone, no more than 4 lines of text. I can see why you added that last bit so that Mages don't cheat out anything too big on turn 3 or 4, but it also makes the card too wordy. I would make him a 5/5. All in all I think Color From Space is your best, with Algalon as a close second. Though both could use a little bit of tweaking.

shaveyou, I like Homemade Shuttle, but I don't see why it needs to be a 4/4. I think 3/4 is better so that it still has strong stats for 3 mana without having too many stats. Also the 3 attack matches the 3 damage it deals when it dies, which emphasizes the fact that it crashed into something.

Pokeniner, Extraterrestrial Arcane is interesting, but I think it would be simpler if it just dealt a random damage for each elemental instead of adding spell damage. Kirin Tor Astrologist is probably too slow. I would reduce the numbers, or maybe make it discover an 8, 9, and 10 cost minion. Nether-Terrestrial is interesting, but the wording is weird. Why not just say "Battlecry: Give a minion 'Deathrattle: Cast Twisting Nether'"? It would reduce the amount of text by a lot.

@BasilAnguis

I really like Gravity Well. It is tough to cost because removal is so variable based on how much a class has already and what exists in the meta. I like it better as a Warlock card, but Warlock is all about trade-offs and getting extra effects from manipulating the game state. What about something akin to Crush? Say, a 6-mana that reads "Destroy a minion. If it has more than 7 health, this costs (4) less." Cost changing based on the target hasn't really been done before though, so idk how exactly that would work…

Comet is very nice thematically, and I think it is costed fairly. No criticisms!

Crack in Time is really interesting. It would definitely be a fun new tool for Mage, and fits their theme of being able to "delay the inevitable" with things like Freeze and Ice Block. Again the cost is tricky, but I think you have it right. It is sort of a weaker Maiev Shadowsong battlecry. Maiev only sacrifices about 1 mana worth of stats for it, and it lasts twice as long, but, she is legendary and only a one-of. As a rare twofer, I think 3 mana is good.

@Beatdoof

Constellar's Envoy would be a nice addition to the sparse Neutral dragons, but it seems quite weak to me. Reducing the cost of all Dragons, or even all cards in your hand would be reasonable for that stat loss and with the effect as a Deathrattle. Alternatively, you could up the stats to 4/5 and make it a Battlecry. Then it would be a really useful tool for tempo-oriented Dragon decks.

Touch The Stars is a really interesting concept, and with a little tweaking could be a brilliant design. I would suggest making it affect the right-most card instead, so that it combos nicely with Stargazer Luna. With that it would suddenly become a powerful tool for burn decks, making it worth the high cost. (I wrote this before seeing your new version, but honestly I'd still prefer the old version, but with that change. Up to you though, as the new one is also good and I kinda like the image of a Mage tossing out cards from both sides of their hand to burn through everything.)

@anchorm4n

It took me a second to understand Ebb and Flow, but now I get it the tide theme is really cool, and taking that leap from "space' to moon to tides is ingenious. I really like the effects, but I think the Murlocs one is a bit too powerful. Even with the added unreliability, 14/14 of stats for 7 is pretty crazy, especially when they are the ever-synergistic Murlocs. I'd say 2/1s would be much fairer, and just seems right for Murlocs, due to matching the stats of both Murloc Raider and Murloc Tidehunter. The power of giving Shaman Flamestrike is I think fairly balanced by the switching, so no issue there.

Red Planet is another cool outside-the-box idea - going from Mars to its war god namesake. I love it! I assume just attacking minions would not count towards the Quest? If it would, the total needs to be much higher. If not, I still think it should be increased to 10, just because it so easy and usually beneficial for Warriors to do that nowadays. With that, I'd say the huge power of the hero power would be fair.

@MrRhapsody

Comet Trip is a very cool idea (and awesome art choice!). It seems weak compared to Entomb, but Entomb was ridiculously powerful, and Priest had much less direct removal than Mage, so I'd say it's fair.

Far Sighted Telescope is probably my favourite. Usually these "put [a card] on the top of your deck" effects seem underwhelming to me, but I love that this one gives you valuable data about your deck order ("I can't rely on those two cards, so let's adjust the plan"), plus gives you the chance to save one of those dreaded "last cards in the deck" to pull off whatever combo, draw some needed removal, or just find a good tempo drop. It reminds me of Tracking, but without the inevitable case of discarding 2 out of 3 of the best cards in your deck… One minor quibble - the name should really be "Far-Sighted Telescope" with the hyphen. 

Solar Flare is a really neat idea that I know would enrage a lot of people, but I would personally find hilarious (probably until I had to face it…). It is really hard to judge the cost, as it could either be game-winning or completely ineffectual. But, considering you can manipulate your board state and control when you play it to increase its potential benefit, I would probably say it should be at least 2 mana.

My favorite of the bunch is Meteor Fall, but it's also the least space-y of them :(

About The Vindicaar, I prefer the 8 Mana version, even if it's a bit reminiscent of The Boomship. If you decide to go with this card, I'd change the artwork, since the current one seems to be a screenshot from WoW.

I prefer Starace, Solar Entity. It's very interesting, gameplay-wise.

Not a fan, honestly. It looks too similar to Juicy Psychmelon and has potential to be very broken.

I like the space-time duality of your card, but the effect of the cards don't seem very tied to their flavor.

Don't worry, I also unintentionally plagiarized your Gravity Well, so quid pro quo I guess :P

About your cards… I'd say Gravity Well is precisely my favorite.

I'm not a fan of cards that generate spells with a certain label (Shadow Words, Blessings, etc.)

Dunno, maybe I'm the only one like that xD

Event Horizon is my favorite, but Color From Space is also good. Algalon is way too wordy.

Hunter's Moon could be interesting gameplay-wise, but it doesn't click for me, dunno why.

Homemade Shuttle is a bit bland. Plus, it should really be a 3/4, since its effect isn't really negative.

Kirin Tor Astrologist seems very simple and elegant, I like it!

Nether-terrestrial could is also cool.

I like Touch the Stars and its obvious synergy with Stargazer Luna.

That said, you should really find a different art that features stars in some way.

Finally, the Mana Cost. I think 4 should be a good middle ground, since 3 seems way too dangerous because of the aftermentioned Stargazer Luna.

Ebb And Flow is pretty cool, but I'm not sure of what it's supposed to represent. The influence of the Moon over the tides? The lunar phases?

Unless I'm missing some reference, I think you should change its name so that its flavor is more clear.

I like the flavor of your card. I disagree with linkblade91 about the balance, though, since two 4/4 for 6 mana is already on par with stuff like [Hearthstone Card (Power of Nature) Not Found].

Your card is interesting, but I think you should get rid of the minion and just make it a Legendary weapon.

anchorm4n #1: I'm a bit hesitant on the idea of a fatigue win condition since it promotes a very passive and uninteractive playstyle, but I do think that Priest is the best class to put this in.  Their lost card draw makes a fatigue win con less oppressive and more feasible.  However, I am also unsure if a Unicorn makes much sense in this week's space theme.

linkblade91: The infernal drop from Meteor Fall is an idea I've wanted to see made real in Warlock and while I like the card, it isn't that exciting.  Random character also means it could just kill you, so I think making it be a random enemy or a random minion would be fine.  I'm more of a fan of the first Vindicarr design since win con cards are often unsatisfying or uninteractive in practice, from my experience at least.  I like the idea of a Paladin Boomship, but I might consider making it from hand instead of from deck.  It follows the Boomships design and also synergizes with handbuff cards.

Demonxz95: Celestial Crafter reminds me of the Spiteful Summoner days, except without any type of build-around.  It's a cool idea, but I think it has too much high-roll potential as it currently stands.  Perhaps making the spell cost-restricted to avoid something like a 10-drop on turn 5-6.  I think Starace is super cool.  He supports both Elemental synergy and cheap spell synergy, both of which already compliment each other.  My main feedback for him is to not make him from Boomsday class card since Boomsday class legendaries are fairly inflexible in terms of changing.  Otherwise, I think Starace is awesome and has lots of room for building around, 5/5 for me.

Xarkkal: I like the idea, but Kael'thas could abuse the heck out of this.  It even fetches him from your deck if you need to start chaining in a sup-optimal way.  You could specify a caveat where this gets released after KT rotates, or downscale it/change the effect to be less abusable.

KANSAS: Dual dragons is a cool theme and I like the execution of them.  However, I do agree with shaveyou that the statlines should be swapped.  The naming and cost of the second dragon could also be changed.  Not having the same cost seems a bit off to me given their theme and there are already a bunch of time dragons in Warcraft.  Although the naming part isn't a huge deal, it deducts a bit of points from me if the flavor is too contrary to HS's setting.

BasilAnguis: I'm not really feeling Gravity Well, even after the class change.  I think it's a fine card, it just doesn't jump out at me.  Crack in Time is kind of like Maiev's effect and doesn't terribly excite me for that reason.  Comet wins hands down for me, I think the idea of a recurring effect is super cool since it also adds a lot of interactivity from the opponent's side.

Wailor: Definite no to The Big Freeze, freeze is already one of the least interactive mechanics in HS and this exacerbates to a huge degree.  Space Time Rip is a but interesting, but also feels too similar to Maiev.  It could have some interesting applications with a cost reduction and class change though, since it triggers deathrattles.  I like Gravity Crush a lot since there's a lot of ways to manipulate which minions attack in Warrior and it offers some ability for the opponent to play around.

MenacingBagel: I like the effect, but it might be a bit out of place in an expansion with no portal cards in it.  Newer players would have do some extra digging to find out what the potential outcomes are, so I would either change the expansion it comes out in or change the effect.

shaveyou: Homemade Shuttle is uninteresting and seems a bit too generically strong.  I like Hunter's Moon since I think more effects like Floop's Glorious Gloop should be around, but it feels a bit weak for 3 mana to only be conditionally strong.  That said, I understand that too cheap potentially allows it to be crazy strong in the right circumstances.

Pokeniner: Big fan of Kirin Tor Astrologist as a way to give Mage some minion generation amidst all their random spell generation.  I'm also always just excited by big minions in my games and love control decks, so I'm a bit biased.  Extraterrestrial Arcane is cool as a temporary conditional buff, but I'm afraid it might be too weak.  Applying to all spells in a turn makes room for uninteractive OTK's, but I could see it being 0-mana.  Nether-terrestial seems like it has an interesting idea, but the wording is confusing.  Does the chosen minion get the deathrattle, or does Nether himself have a deathrattle that triggers when the minion dies (which also doesn't make sense)?

Beatdoof: Constellar's Envoy feels bit too un-envoy-y since it's effect is so small.  I might suggest a small stateline in exchange for a larger or more specific effect.  Unsure how I feel about Touch the Stars.  It's a temporary Emerald Goggles effect from the Dalaran Heist on a spell, which is cool, but left-most is also a Warlock thing in Boomsday wheras right-most is a Mage thing.  Overall I like the design, it just feels a bit out of place to me.  There is also some potential for scary pop-offs, but Mage doesn't have too much draw to fuel that, so it should be fine.

anchorm4n #2:  I like the idea of swapping effects from Ebb and Flow, but moon themes (as suggested by the art) are a Druid thing rather than a Shaman thing.  The idea works like shifting tides, but then that no longer goes with the space theme.  Really dig The Red Planet, but feel that it might succumb to the same fate as Hack the System.  Both work well in a tempo warrior deck, but both also take away from tempo by virtue of being quests.

MrRhapsody: Comet Trip feels very out of place in Mage since mage focuses on raw damage as removal instead of shuffling to simply destroying.  Solar Flare seems like wasted potential.  Solar Flares are super cool events that could be represented by sweeping fire or mass destruction instead of a 1 mana minor potential disruption.  Far Sighted Telescope is the winner for me but I also feel like it doesn't differentiate itself enough from Sightless Watcher.  Since there is no manipulation of what goes to or could be in the bottom of your deck, its effect is  basically the exact same as Sightless Watcher's.

Inconspicuosaurus: I like the idea, but agree that it is too vulnerable to single target removal from the opponent.  Increasing health should be a fine fix since it doesn't actually double down.

CursedParrot: I really like the effect, but the potential to play even more Puzzleboxes might be too much.  It's an exceptionally slow card, so it might be fine from a balance stand point, but the value generated from it could also push out any other slow deck strategies.

@CursedParrot

I agree with Wailor that having a minion summon the weapon seems unnecessary. The effect on the weapon is really cool, but I think you should either move the effect to the minion (you then don't need the durability loss limit as the minion can be removed more easily), or just make it a Legendary weapon. If you do the latter, I would recommend searching for a space-themed weapon in WoW lore, just to make it more appropriate as a weapon and more directly associated with the theme.

 

@Wailor 

Space-Time Rip is really cool. I thought it was weak, but then I realised it can effect your minions. Casting it on something like Khartut Defender would be insane. Plus there's the added utility of dismissing an enemy minion to set up for a board clear, or just buy time. I love it!

Gravity Crash is a really neat idea. I love these kinds of out-there removal cards. I like the flexibility too. If you're behind you're probably just making two enemy minions attack each other, but if you do have your own high-attack minion, you can make it clear two things in one turn. Very cool!

I like the thematics of The Big Freeze, and symmetrical freezing is an interesting idea, but honestly it is a bit underwhelming compared to the other two.

Also, thank you for your feedback. I am glad that the flavour and true power does come across. And you almost got my name right haha; just got the middle "uo" the wrong way around ;)

Wailor: Space-Time Rip is my favorite of the three, good flavor and could has interesting combo potential if you turn it on your own minions. Gravity Crash is good too. The Big Freeze doesn't really have the same space flavor, and the effect would be ridiculous for Freeze Mage.

CursedParrot: This would make a lot more sense as a Legendary minion (and if it was you could definitely give the minion a buff).

Inconspicuosaurus: You could probably bump that up to 7-9 Mana.

MrRhapsody: Comet Trip is probably the best of the three, but if you go with Solar Flare remember to change the text from 'have 50% chance' to 'have a 50% chance'.

Beatdoof: I like Touch the Stars more, but I'm trying to think if there's a better way to phrase it so it's clear it applies to all cards and not just the one you have there when you play it.

anchorm4n: Ebb and Flow is pretty wordy, and as we saw from the Worgen cards in Witchwood rotating effects aren't the most useful since you can't use them when you really need them. The Red Planet is better, but it needs to require a lot more damage than just that (at least 15-20).

BasilAnguis: I like the flavor of all three of the cards, but if I had to pick one I'd say Comet.

Pokeniner: I like Kirin Tor Astrologist the best of the three. I would say to capitalize the terrestrial for Nether-terrestrial (although that's just my preference). And I get that about the watermark of Extraterrestrial Arcane, but the voters probably won't unless they read the whole summary (and when you get to the finals you can't expect them to do that) so I'd change it to a custom watermark.

shaveyou: The artwork for Homemade Shuttle is better than Hunter's Moon flavor-wise, but Hunter's Moon is the better card (Shuttle just isn't that interesting).

BloodMefist: I'd go with Event Horizon. Color From Space could be way too swingy, and Algalon would need to have its wording reduced significantly.

MenacingBagel: Decent, but not the most interesting card (and if that's referring to Karazhan portals then it would either need to be from an earlier set or specify 'portal spells from the past'.

KANSAS: A good card, but Obscuron could use a more interesting effect.

Xarkkal: Summoning 4 high-statted effects would be a huge swing, I'd reduce it to just two (or three with the minion's costs scaled back).

Demonxz95: I like both of the cards, but I really like Celestial Crafter.

linkblade91: I think the flavor is there for Meteor Fall, but the artwork could be better. The 8-Mana Vindicaar works, but I'm not a fan of the 10-Mana version (in general I'm not a fan of destroy the enemy hero effects).

linkblade91 - Meteor Fall could be really good if it targeted only minions instead of characters. Of the Vindicaars i prefer the 8 Mana version. Maybe it could give Divine Shield and Rush kind of like a Space Paladin Magic Carpet on steroids^^

Demonxz95 - Celestial Crafter just screams Boomsday Mage-card to me! Fits very nicely with the Astronomy theme they had going on. I know Starace says Spell Damage +3 on it, but to get good value out of it you ahve to use aoe, so it's fine. Also very nice Elemental Allies synergy there^^

Xarkkal - So that's worth…18…26 Mana, but you only pay 10? Seems balanced. Really! This is no joke! Actually…I'll have to deal with all those minions at some point anyways so why not Plague of Death them all at once =P

KANSAS - For me the main issue is not the fact that there is a Token, but that the name is so long that it makes the original card's tect so small… The overall concept of making space and time into related cards isn't bad at all =)

MenacingBagel - I'm pretty sure the portals were from a different expansion. The idea has potential though =)

BloodMefist - Out of the three I like Event Horizon the most, but what happens if there is no middle minion? Algalon's effect while interesting is just too long. Colour from Space is 3x Evolve with restriction…I don't see the connection there…

shaveyou - Hunter's Moon does a good job of connecting the theme to a class in a way that makes sense. Homemade Shuttle probably should have 1 Attack less and a Mech tag… Not the most mind-blowing card I've ever seen, but probably the only one that in some form will end up in the game =)

BasilAnguis - Gravity Well works very (wait for it) 'well' thematically. Sorry it's 1:40 in the morning where I live. Balance seems fine, too. I think it's my favorite out of the three. Comet can set you up for a nasty surprise against warrior or Priest (only in wild), but otherwise it's fine. Crack in time seems really weak. Why would you put this in your deck over Frost Nova?

anchorm4n - Ebb and Flow can seem very powerful compared to Flamestrike or The Forest's Aid, but I think the powerlvl is fine since the card in reality is NOT flexible at all. Instead it will just screw you over when you need a boardclear xD The moon-theme is also a very nice variation on the space-prompt. The warrior card…I can't put my finger on it…sry… Anyway's I'm looking forward to that Worgen card^^

Beatdoof - Wow. I love it. Simple yet powerful. Perfectly fits the Mage-Astronomy theme from Boomsday. I'm not 100% sure on the art, but that is an easy 5 star card there imo^^

MrRhapsody - Comet Trip seems like a VERY expensive removal/not removal tool to me. Why would you run this over Polymorph, ever? Reduce the Cost to 4 and we're talking^^ Far Sighted Telescope feels very similar to Sightless Watcher, but you could add a little twist. 'Put one on top, or don't.' Then it just needs a Token for the 'Don't' option like Vulpera Scoundrel for its mystery option. Solar Flare seems too RNG to me…

Inconspicuosaurus - My problem with this card is kind of that its strength is also its weakness. You can make two ridiculously strong minions, but they can both die to one Deadly Shot… That's a bit too risky for my taste. I wouldn't change the stats, but maybe reduce the cost… to 4? Think about it: Can your opponent remove a 4/4 on turn 4? Most likely yes. If you buff this you have to wait for a later turn anyway and invest more cards, which kind of justifies the power level. Some mechanical questions: Holy Nova kills this, right? If you buff this with Divine Shield Flamestrike kills this, right? Considering that, it also feels weak against AoE, which justifies the lower cost even more!

CursedParrot - That's a really nice idea. I feel like the effect is special (and value) enough to make this a Legendary. That way you avoid sitting on a second (useless) copy of the minion while the weapon is equipped as well.

Wailor - Generally I enjoy the art of all three cards. Gravity Crash and The Big Freeze fit their repsective classes very well and bring somehting slightly different to the table, but what I like the most is Space Time Rip! I think it costs too much. I know it can attack immediately, but you still have to pay this on top of what the minion costs. Just make sure not to make it 1 Mana to Combo with Malygos and you're fine =)

Pokeniner - I'd prefer Nether-terrestrial to say 'Destroy all minions.' instead of 'Cast Twisting Nether.' It's just what Blizzard would do since that's easier to understand.  I like Kirin Tor Astrologist a lot. I fear though that even IF you explain exactly what it does (which is correct since it doesn't say 'or' but 'and') people won't read or understand the explanation. I'd vote that at least 4 stars, but you probably won't get far with it. Extraterrestrial Arcane is a very interesting Combo enabler. Balance is fine I think since you basically sacrifice an entire turn playing mediocre elementals.

Hordaki - I like the idea. I also am a huge fan of alternate wording, but…it shouldn't be the same as Reno's, since Boom is no mage. Maybe something like 'Send a minion into space! (It will never come back.)' will do the trick.

@Inconspicuosaurus (seriously man, that is just the most hilarious user name), The card is a bit weird. It works like Djinni of Zephyrs, but it also counts damage and Hero Powers. As we have seen from Djinni of Zephyrs, this effect can be pretty hard to utilize, and your card is even harder to make use of because of the shared damage. I would buff it's stats, give it some other relevant ability, or make it not share damage. 

@CursedParrot, I really like the flavor and design of Luna's Cosmic Portal, though you could make the wording better. If it said "After you cast a spell, store a copy of it and lose 1 durability. Deathrattle: Cast the stored spells" then it would read a lot smoother. But if you can think of a more official sounding word than "store" to describe it saving the spells than use that instead.

@Pokeniner, Kirin Tor Astrologist is my personal favorite, but it may not be your best card. The wording on Nether-terrestrial is a lot better now, that card is my second pick. I don't really like Extraterrestrial Arcane because I don't think it would be very useful in a practical sense. How many Elementals are you going to be able to play in a single turn? 4? 5? And how much tempo are you losing because you are holding back half of your hand? And is it even worth it just to get a single above-average spell? If it is part of a custom expansion then I could understand that archetype getting more support and maybe working, but in a vacuum the card is weak.

@Hordaki, I really like the flavor, but I am not sure about the 7 mana 7/7 statline. I get that it is Dr. Boom, but 7 mana 7/7 may be a bit too good in too many decks. I would put it into a class, maybe Priest or Mage. Instant removal like this probably shouldn't be Neutral.

@TheHoax91, I don't know if you have looked at the submissions yet, but there are at least 2 other Algalon the Observers. It is totally fine to have the same character submitted more than once, but when the same name and art appears 3+ times it doesn't look unique or inspired any more. I am not saying you can't go along with this card, but just keep this in mind. About the actual card, I like the second version better. The two abilities of the first one don't really seem to connect, it feels like you just came up with some form of restriction and then some generic form of payoff, the second one feels more focused. It is a tech card, that is what it does and it does it well.

@KANSAS

I really like the wording "store", I think I'll use that because it is shorter and very intuitive. Do you think that I should use Algalon or Luna's Cosmic Portal?

For your design, I like the idea but it seems too powerful. Dealing 3 damage to all enemies should be worth around 6 Mana (looking at cards like Excavated Evil), so spending 1 more mana for an 8/4 that adds another card to your hand when it dies seems very powerful. Right now, Empyrean is basically a Neutral Flamestrike that deals a little less damage at the benefit of also hitting the enemy hero, giving you an 8/4, and drawing you a card. I think you could reduce the stats and/or reduce the damage and healing to be 2 instead. 

Alternatively, you could do something like make Empyrean an 8 Mana 8/4 with "Deathrattle: Deal 3 damage to all enemies and add Obscuron to your hand" and Obscuron an 8 Mana 4/8 Taunt with "Battlecry: Restore 3 Health to all friendly characters", so that they also mirror each other in terms of Battlecry versus Deathrattle, and so that Empyrean's text is a lot shorter. 

 

@TheHoax91

For your second design, you could make it "Remove all cards from both decks that didn't start there. Gain +1/+1 for each." This would give it a sort of payoff. You could also do something like "Replace all cards from both decks that didn't start there with Algalon's Portal" and then make Algalon's Portal a token spell with Casts when drawn that does something, like "Casts When Drawn. Destroy a random enemy minion", or anything else that you think would be a cool payoff.

Another idea I had for "origination" could be something like "Battlecry: Replace both players' decks with their starting decks"

@Hordaki - I like the flavor, and it's a very creative way to hit on the theme of this week. I think having that hard of a removal as a Neutral card is a bad idea though. Almost every deck would run this. I think it would be better as a Warrior card.

@TheHoax91 - I see we have similar thoughts on good characters to use. Algalon was my second choice, but my heart has always been attached to Elegon. I like the first version the most, though I think destroying all minions is overkill, especially at 4 mana. I think it would be fine just removing cards from your deck only.

@CursedParrot - Both options seem solid. Don't use Uldum watermark. Algalon is located in Ulduar which is in Northrend. I would suggest a custom watermark. 

@KANSAS - Time is a tricky mechanic to mess with in the game. Just look at how many time Nozdormu has broken the game. I think you're right to avoid that mess and stick with restoring health.

@DestroyerR - I like the flavor A LOT! I hope you remembered to bring your towel! However I'm no sold on the being repeatable at cost of 3 mana. But now that I think about it… that's probably a good idea because of Sorcerer's Apprentice… Ok, scratch that, I'm sold. 

@Nirast - interesting idea. I don't agree with the Boomsday watermark though. There isn't a single Dragon in the Boomsday expansion, only Mechs and Elementals. While yes Mage's cards are very "space" themed in that expansion, Dragons do not fit the flavor of the expansion at all.

@Hordaki

I like your card, but as a 7 Mana 7/7 it seems way too good. Compared to Flik Skyshiv, it's 1 Mana more for +3/+3 and the destroy doesn't trigger Deathrattles. I think you could possibly change the art to another character so that you can tweak the stats to make it balanced. Alternatively, you could make the effect weaker by changing it to something like "If you control a Mech, make a minion disappear (it won't come back)"

@TheDestroyer

I am unclear about the effect. Does it give you a new full hand of 10 cards, or does it give you a number of cards equal to the cards you already have in hand? If it gives you a new hand, it's sort of like "Echo. Combo: Draw a card for each card you played this turn" which seems very fair as a Mage card. My one note would be to maybe remove the "Echo" part, since it seems like the Echo would only come into effect if you are using it in a broken combo, and to possibly make it replace the cards in your hand with Spells from your deck, so that it would be more than just a hand refill, and could be used in some kind of Small Spells or Burn Spells mage.

@Nirast

Celestial Dragon seems pretty balanced, it's essentially a better Chromagus with Spell Damage synergy. If you wanted to, you could also have the Celestial Dragon improve Card Generation (like Magic Trick and Astral Rift) or Hero Power Damage instead, but I like your design so I don't think it's necessary.

@Xarkkal

Elegon seems too powerful as he is right now, since the Celestial Breath Cards are actually better than cards you could put in your deck (Celestial Breath is more powerful than Consecration in Paladin for the same cost, even without a Dragon in hand). Essentially, he's a 7 Mana 6/6 with Battlecry: "Draw 2 overpowered cards", which is far too good. I would suggest making Celestial Breath much weaker, especially when you don't have a Dragon in hand. You could make it something like 7 Mana "Deal 2 damage to all enemies. If you're holding a Dragon, deal 4 instead" so that it's a better Flamestrike in you're holding a dragon. This by itself might not be enough of a nerf, so I could see changing Elegon to a 7 Mana 6/6 with "Battlecry and Deathrattle: Add a Celestial Breath to your hand". If you want Elegon to synergize with the Paladin quest, you could even make him a 7 Mana 6/5 with "Reborn. Deathrattle: Add a Celestial Breath to your hand"

@Linkblade91

I think your card is somewhat balanced, but I don't really like random damage cards so I think it could be reworked to something like 6 Mana "Deal 6 damage to a minion and summon a 6/6 Infernal", "Choose a minion. Summon a 6/6 Infernal to attack it" or "Deal 6 Damage to a friendly character to summon a 6/6 Infernal with Rush". I think your card isn't bad as it is, but I just sort of dislike random cards in general and I think it's possible to design it in a way that keeps the flavor and functionality but is less random. 

Hordaki: Boom at any point after Boomsday would likely have to be a Warrior card.  It also doesn't feel in the spirit of Boom either, who is always about explosions and randomness.  This is just a very clean removal that feels out of place theme-wise.  Agree that the art is great though.

TheHoax91: I like it as a tech card, but limiting it to Priest and making it legendary isn't a good idea.  Tech choices are most interesting when they're Neutral and are more accessible than legendaries.  Legendaries as tech cards is fine, like Mojomaster Zihi,  but the tech Algalon provides is super niche and feels really bad to be constrained by both class and rarity.

CursedParrot: Really dig the direction you took Algalon and that you tied the effect to a legendary rather than an epic.  It still scares me a bit, especially when something like Fireball stacking could easily make him a nuke, but he is a '6-mana do nothing' the turn he comes out, so it should be fine.  We already have Solarion Prime, who isn't too crazy.  Clarifying question though, would he cast the spells in the order played or would it be a random order?  

Kansas: I think the tweaks you made really make this a solid submission.  I do feel that their effects seems kind of small considering the scale they are meant to be on.  These are huge cosmic dragons that are lords of time and space, and they deal/heal 3 damage.  Maybe up their costs to up the effects?  Idk what people are on about when they say healing can't be related to time, we even have Nozari who directly uses time to heal. 

DestroyerR: Seems a bit weak on the surface, Invocation does a similar effect but costs 2 less.  That said, Incanter's Flow could absolutely break this card and allow you to have an insane swing turn by casting the now cheap spells in your deck.  It's an interesting idea, but I'm not sure if it should be done at this time.

Nirast: I love the idea of Spell Damage interacting with more things, and I think the statline is fair for the effect.  However, draw power scaling with Spell Damage opens up space for my least favorite archetype, mill decks.  Research Project specifically could go wack and easily cause your opponent to mill themselves for an absurd number of cards.  Despite this concern, I think the card is still in a good spot since it costs so much while not affecting the board.  Clarifying question, would it also buff start of turn draw or draw from minions, or just draw from spells?

Xarkkal: First quick thing, I think the expansion it's from Galakrond's Awakening instead of DoD since Paladin were hard set for Bronze Dragons in DoD.  The main thing I would change balance wise is making Celestial Breath only damage minions and not the enemy hero.  It would still be a very strong card, but wouldn't have the potential to burst 10 damage on turn 8.  Otherwise, I think its a decent design.

Inconspicuosaurus: Damn, I liked the gemini idea.  To get rid of the issue of infinite value, you could make the copies a different token that share her stats, although it might be tricky to write that without going over the line limit.  I would also consider making the effect a deathrattle since it can't get many enchantments on it from the hand outside of the occasional handbuff.

I like the idea - its a space version of Evolve, it's Space-volve lol.  What I'm not the biggest fan of is that this only effects small minions.  I get that your'e avoiding Desert Hare shenanigans, but the card is much less cleaner with the cost restrictions.  My ideal version would be a 5-7 mana version that transforms all minions.  Yeah, you can high roll, but it happens late enough in the game that it can be dealt with.

As for the 3-mana versions, I like the third version the best.  I prefer the evolution to be large as possible to separate it from the original Evolve and match Explosive Evolution, but the original might be too powerful.  Also, there are cards that reference 1-cost minions, but not 2-cost minions.

I don't mind the watermark, but I'm not sure what makes the card fit in Boomsday in particular.

I would specify that this also keeps any enchantments, as the way it is written only affects copies on the battlefield (See Kingsbane and Immortal Prelate).  Also, if your opponent also ran this card, buffing this would help both players, sort of like how murlocs used to affect both sides of the battlefield.  If you don't want to this to happen, you could make it affect friendly copies only.

As for the infinite aspect of this card, I don't mind it personally, as it is below curve, but some people might read it as a neutral Jade Idol and end up being biased against it.  If you decide to get rid of the infinite value, you could make it shuffle in token copies without the battlecry or make it a start of game effect.

You might to look at this for the most consistent wording.  It's the same effect.

I like the card a lot, but I would imagine that this character feels likes it should be bigger than a 4/4.  Also, you might want to consider having it awaken after you play 3 spells rather than casting, as you get to choose what spells to recast rather than potentially casting random spells off of other cards by accident.  Since its potentially a little slower, you could up its stats a little.

I like to see more Dragons and support tools in Paladin, but the Celestial Breath needs to be toned down a bit.  Its like drawing two cards that are more efficient than anything else in your deck.  Having direct damage to face in Paladin is a little strange.

I loved your idea so much that it inspired me to explore what other things spell damage can do, including one I've posted XD.  I agree with linkblade that it should only affect youself and with Xarkkal that dragons don't really belong in Boomsday, but I think the flavor and mechanics fit the set enough that you should keep it.

I agree with others that the repeatable this turn effect is not necessary.  It doesn't do anything by itself except changing your hand which you need to spend mana on to play cards from, in which you're not going to play this card again.  With 3 Sorcerer's Apprentices out, you get to cast this infinitely.  The effect reminds of Plot Twist and that was 2 mana, so I would could see this being 2 mana as well.

The first version has a condition that feels more like something that would be in rogue rather than in priest, as rogue is the class that specializes in shuffling cards into their deck.  As it stands, it seems more like a tech card against bomb decks than anything else.

I like the idea of the second version, and I made a card with the effect for an earlier competition, except it was 6 mana and a neutral epic.  As others have said, this a tech card and it isn't the best thing to put on a class legendary.  Also, I imagine that Algalon would be larger than a 2/6.

I like it, but it should be in Warrior.  Not all classes should have access to unconditional single-target removal.  Also, Flik Skyshiv is crying in the corner :(

Grumpymonk - I have concerns about wording on both of your cards. For Star Augur is it only the start of turn draw, or any draw? With Lunar Wellspring, the wording triple bonus worries me, but I can't think of anything better to suggest. I'd say Lunar Wellspring out of the two though, although they're both really creative.

Bloodmefist - I actually think the original is fine. Murloc Tiderunner is a 5 mana combo, to get a random 5 drop and a random 4 drop, which is significantly less scary that three random 4 drops for 4 mana. Out of the tweaked ones, I'd say 2 and less raised by 2. Having it only affect 1 mana minions seems a little restrictive.

Inconspicuosaurus - I don't follow your concern about the copies producing copies. After all, the battlecry isn't an enchantment as such, rather a trigger. For example, if you buff Immortal Prelate using Fungalmancer, when it's played the second time it has +2/+2, it doesn't repeat Fungalmancers battlecry. I like the card, though I would worry about making it neutral, just because of the amount of design space it limits.

Cursedparrot - Good idea. I like how it can be used in multiple ways, either casting cheap spells and getting copies, or playing a 6 mana "do nothing", and following up with powerful spells for massive value.

Xarrkal - Man, Hearthstone needs some Cloud Serpents. Anyway, I like it, although the burst damage (10 damage on T8) is a little scary. I suppose it's balanced out by dragon decks not being known for their aggressive nature, but still, it's a bit of a concern.

Nirast - My main question is how is card draw improved by spell damage. I would assume that you draw an extra card for spell damage, but is that for each card? For example, if you play this, then Arcane Intellect, do you draw 3 (2+1) or 4 (2+1+1). And does this effect drawing cards in other ways, such as start of turn, or minions? They're not spells, so should spell damage effect it. I feel like I'm being overly critical, because I really like the card, but it feels like one Blizz releases, doesn't showcase well enough, and then people spend the pre-release weeks speculating on exactly how it works.

DestroyerR - I'm not sure this needs the repeatable this turn aspect. The effect alone is pretty solid, and I can't see ever wanting to spend another 3 mana, leaving 4 mana left to actually cast anything. Otherwise it's fine.

KANSAS - I see you made the change I (and probably others) suggested regarding swapping the stats. Good card.

TheHoax91 - I prefer the second version. Anti-Albatross tech, as well as messing with Rogues.

Hordaki - I think if you're set on making a Dr.Boom card for DoD, it should probably be in Warrior. Otherwise, I love how thematic this is, but a near-vanilla stat line with a silence and assassinate effect seems really strong. Maybe add the magic word and make it "random minion"?

Pokeniner - I'd say Extraterrestrial Arcane is the stand-out here. Really neat idea, and would fit really well in a spell damage/arcane elemental themed mage set.

 

@linkblade91 - Much better like this. Should be good to go.

@CursedParrot - Wording feels weird to me. I think it's the "on" part, because you can't cast a untargetable spell on a minion, and you can't cast a spell that targets minions on the hero. Not sure how to fix that, maybe do something along the lines as Solarian Prime?

@Inconspicuosaurus - Really interesting effect and idea, I like it. As for generating more copies of itself, that is extremely dangerous and I fear there is no good work around. Maybe make it only shuffle 1 copy, so there can only ever be 2 existing at a time (minus double battlecry shenanigans). Also, dropping it's stats to 1/1 would probably be good, since the card is meant to be buffed. As is, even a deck running no buffs would run this just because it's infinite value vanilla stats. 

@BloodMefist - I think this is way too strong at 3 mana. The best case scenario, you have 3 10-Cost minions on turn 3. That just should not be possible. 

@grumpymonk - designer's block happens. I've been fighting that lately too. I like Star Augur the most. Curvestone to the max! Lunar Wellspring is fine, I'm a little concerned by the triple effect. Double would probably be better.

And I have to stop the feedback here for now. I'm sorry if I didn't get to you. I'll try and get another round of feedback in tomorrow. 

anchorm4n: I would say artwork 1 out of the three, but I would recommend finding artwork with the moon much more prominent.

Xarkkal: I like it, I would say flavorwise it definitely fits more into Mage than Shaman. I would also recommend changing the name to something like "Elegon, Mechanical Dragon" since otherwise I would think the Mech tag was a mistake.

CursedParrot: I think this Algalon is good, but maybe flip it to "awaken and recast them (targets enemies if possible)". I think it flows better this way, but if you don't it's not that big of a deal.

grumpymonk: Both cards are good (I prefer Star Auger) but both could use some wording changes. Lunar Wellspring should say "This spell gains triple bonus from Spell Damage" (and I think it should cost 2 mana) and Star Augur should say "draw your highest Cost playable card".

BloodMefist: Go with the (1) or less version.

Inconspicuosaurus: Maybe you could word it so it shuffles tokens into your deck and gives them any enchantments cast on Quanta.

Nirast: Does it affect your turn draw? If not maybe change it to "Draw effects" instead of "Card draw".

DestoyerR: Good effect and not too overpowered, I like it.

KANSAS: I still think healing friendly characters isn't as impressive as dealing damage to others, maybe double the healing on Obscuron.

TheHoax91: I'd go with the second Algalon out of the two.