To give an example Zed Poppy supposedly one of the best decks in the game crumbles to even a moderate amount of true midrange pushback. Like sure if all you do is pass and cycle they are gonna eat you with quick attack plus Poppy plus rally.
Because you cut all the true removal out of your deck, maybe you're dragons and all you do is single combat onto dragon girl...that's way too slow
Let's say you're darkness and youre playing a veigar into a poppy that's game loosing, how about Jayce well in my experience that matchup is great if you arent running a greedy Heimer version but you probably are.
But if you start answering them play for play because you arent slow rolling its auto concede by round 3 for them everytime. So yeah aggro decks aren't good, meta decks are just so insular right now that they essentially fall apart when they can't get rolling with a very specific game plan. Aka run removal, run healing, run an actual curve etc. And you'll be fine.
Captain Galvangar will be a challenging prospect, because 15 armor by turn 6 isn't easy to do for most tempo decks, which is probably where this card slots in the most. Probably in control quest warrior if anything else, but of course we haven't seen the rokara hero yet, so there's still that. Still, thats 9 damage out of nowhere.
Very easy, actually, because of Frozen Buckler that's in this expansion. Still, you're usually pretty busy on turns 2-5, so you might have to wait until turn 7-8 to get the full effect on Galvangar. That's on track with highlander hunter Brann, and a few turns earlier than King Krush or an activated Grommash.
That being said, the quest package seems more consistent and effective, so I don't think it will be replaced by these new cards.
In the meantime, I'm trying to keep up to date, while it is still manageable. By now, most cards only have a few pages of comments, so it is "easy" to spot yours. But yeah, a good ol'crawl makes it this much more convenient to ensure completion of community rating duty ^^
Also, if it is any comfort, last couple expansions, I recalled having posted some Addict Dave Chappellehitching for more memes, asking if they'd have any more of them tavern crawls
Another Big Spell activator card. It's good, since many of the big spell activator cards require you to have them in hand, but I feel like we need more great big spells for it to really come together. If it does, this will definitely be in the deck though.
Of course this has the potential to be very good, but maybe not with the current pool of big spells. We do have a huge amount of big spell activators though, so maybe this is finally enough to push it.
Seems like a bit too much trouble to activate considering you can just throw Mr. Smite on the board and even give your other minions charge as well, just for 3 less damage.
Yet another charge minion, and back to back from the miniset? Looks like there's a dev in there who really really likes this mechanic. At least its only for warrior.
Captain Galvangar will be a challenging prospect, because 15 armor by turn 6 isn't easy to do for most tempo decks, which is probably where this card slots in the most. Probably in control quest warrior if anything else, but of course we haven't seen the rokara hero yet, so there's still that. Still, thats 9 damage out of nowhere.
Balinda Stonehearth will likely end up as an 8/8. That's very good, but at the same time why'd mage would run this in their deck is something that hasn't been answered in the reveals so far. There's a shortage of good big spells, but judging from this and the landmark I think its safe to say there's at least one 10 mana spell somewhere down the line.
Iceblood Tower will unfortunately never see play. Its a staggering 10 mana, putting its powerlevel around some of the best cards in hearthstone powerwise, but all it does is essentially cast a free spell for you of which you have no control over. Not saying this can never be good, but is likely too expensive, too inconsistent to ever be.
So all the top decks are aggro or burn, and some would say that Gangplank Sejuani is midrange but they are still damaging you every turn so it sure feel agressive. So thats S tier.
A tier includes Jace Lux, Dragons, Thralls, Shadow as potential counters that play a little slower. Now is this actually representative of the games current balance or a response to all the greedy Heimer bs people were playing and instead got effectively 💩 on.
I would say likely more the second thing, like its not hard to tech in tavern keeper, and all different forms of healing that exist in the game to greatly improve your performance.
Even something like deny to crowd out burn plays are high effective. Personally I love when I see aggro decks because you literally know every play they are making before they do so any loss is a failure of deck building creativity vs a failure of play. So overall good meta, F you Heimer and learn to build decks that beat aggro?
I'd imagine we'll get the tavern crawl soon, I know card reveal season is manic for the OoC team and the Stormwind tavern crawl was released before the final card dump iirc
Iceblood Tower - I was 200% sure that Alterac would've brought us at least one big Frost spell, and it went exactly as I believed: there were just too many positive signals for it to not happen. For the spell itself, Iceblood Tower wants you to run lots of impactful stuff in your deck, and I am glad that Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron isn't in Standard anymore.
Pyroblast go BOOM! Because I'm not a reasonable person!
Simple design, no different from the many burgle cards rogue tends to have.
Unfortunately, probably will never see play unless [Hearthstone Card (lorekeeper pokelt) Not Found] is literally everywhere. It gets worse as the game progresses because minions would get bigger and you'd need to clear with face just so you can have a peek at what your opponent is going to get, which 90% of the time you'd would not be able to disrupt anyway.
The only problem here would be the battlecry. It'll only ever be good if enough deathrattles died this game, which means you can't just slot this into every priest deck and hope for the best, you'd need to invest in a gameplan, whether its Lightshower Elementals or Leper Gnomes. This makes the card more reliant on deck building and card draw rng more so than the other heros seen so far.
Will be interested to see what will come out of this card.
I'd imagine Grommash Hellscream is removed from the core set next year, Captain Galvangar would be the go to replacement. When the expansion launches, guess you can always add both legendries and just have one as a backup plan. With Frozen Buckler, any warrior could activate this legendary effect, so it's likely we'll see Captain Galvangar often enough.
Not gonna stay on this thread much longer but I literally just played the mirror against Zigs Thaliyah and they lost handedly.
The reason is simple and I've played those decks too, that giving ziggs or Thaliyah overwhelm so you can actually win is super akward and requires multiple cards to be commited.
Meanwhile I play Nasus into strike and the games over and I literally commited 1 champ slot to make that play happen.
So again random forum people talking about a bad deck like Zigs Thaliyah 0 Nifty1. At the end of the day the money goes where your oversized mouths are.
It sounds like you’ve got a good deck. But, I’m going to be honest and say nobody will care if you berate the people who disagree with you.
I’m actually curious to see how your dec fares up. I make my own decks and would be curious to test them against other home-brew. If you want to win against someone who can support your claims, I’ve put my gamer tag in the Looking for Friends thread (or whatever it’s called)
This is a pretty good objective/landmark, compared to the others. Definitely meant for big spell mage and would be very good at 5 mana with Balinda Stonehearth
Hoping we get at least one more big spell over 6 mana that will fit into the deck. It isn't a great feeling having to run bad big spells like Grand Finale which brings down the overall win rate of the deck.
Quite the interesting effect that I'm sure will see lots of experimentation, especially the possibilities with Potion of Illusion. Obviously meant for a big spell mage where you want to reduce the spells to 5 and increase the minion stats to 6+. Least we know the maximum this legendary's stats can be are 10/10.
Only down side is running a bunch of 5 cost spells, which big mage would need to do, so this would effectively just draw 2 spells, which isn't terrible either.
Meta Analysis Winter 2021
To give an example Zed Poppy supposedly one of the best decks in the game crumbles to even a moderate amount of true midrange pushback. Like sure if all you do is pass and cycle they are gonna eat you with quick attack plus Poppy plus rally.
Because you cut all the true removal out of your deck, maybe you're dragons and all you do is single combat onto dragon girl...that's way too slow
Let's say you're darkness and youre playing a veigar into a poppy that's game loosing, how about Jayce well in my experience that matchup is great if you arent running a greedy Heimer version but you probably are.
But if you start answering them play for play because you arent slow rolling its auto concede by round 3 for them everytime. So yeah aggro decks aren't good, meta decks are just so insular right now that they essentially fall apart when they can't get rolling with a very specific game plan. Aka run removal, run healing, run an actual curve etc. And you'll be fine.
Wronchi Reveals Three New Cards for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Very easy, actually, because of Frozen Buckler that's in this expansion. Still, you're usually pretty busy on turns 2-5, so you might have to wait until turn 7-8 to get the full effect on Galvangar. That's on track with highlander hunter Brann, and a few turns earlier than King Krush or an activated Grommash.
That being said, the quest package seems more consistent and effective, so I don't think it will be replaced by these new cards.
Najak Hexxen is a New Legendary Priest Card Revealed by Kranich for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Uh. What? Call of the Grave on him literally does nothing
Wronchi Reveals Three New Cards for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Oh God why Charge again
Wronchi Reveals Three New Cards for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Poor King Krush
Fractured in Alterac Valley
In the meantime, I'm trying to keep up to date, while it is still manageable.
By now, most cards only have a few pages of comments, so it is "easy" to spot yours.
But yeah, a good ol'crawl makes it this much more convenient to ensure completion of community rating duty ^^
Also, if it is any comfort, last couple expansions, I recalled having posted some Addict Dave Chappelle hitching for more memes, asking if they'd have any more of them tavern crawls
Cheaty Snobold is a New Shaman Hearthstone Card Revealed by Feelink for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Dres Tormentor in TESL did have some success in its time
New Mage Minion - Balinda Stonehearth
Another Big Spell activator card. It's good, since many of the big spell activator cards require you to have them in hand, but I feel like we need more great big spells for it to really come together. If it does, this will definitely be in the deck though.
New Mage Spell - Iceblood Tower
Of course this has the potential to be very good, but maybe not with the current pool of big spells. We do have a huge amount of big spell activators though, so maybe this is finally enough to push it.
New Warrior Minion - Captain Galvangar
Seems like a bit too much trouble to activate considering you can just throw Mr. Smite on the board and even give your other minions charge as well, just for 3 less damage.
Wronchi Reveals Three New Cards for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Clumsy Courier and Celestial Ink Set may help.
Wronchi Reveals Three New Cards for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Yet another charge minion, and back to back from the miniset? Looks like there's a dev in there who really really likes this mechanic. At least its only for warrior.
Captain Galvangar will be a challenging prospect, because 15 armor by turn 6 isn't easy to do for most tempo decks, which is probably where this card slots in the most. Probably in control quest warrior if anything else, but of course we haven't seen the rokara hero yet, so there's still that. Still, thats 9 damage out of nowhere.
Balinda Stonehearth will likely end up as an 8/8. That's very good, but at the same time why'd mage would run this in their deck is something that hasn't been answered in the reveals so far. There's a shortage of good big spells, but judging from this and the landmark I think its safe to say there's at least one 10 mana spell somewhere down the line.
Iceblood Tower will unfortunately never see play. Its a staggering 10 mana, putting its powerlevel around some of the best cards in hearthstone powerwise, but all it does is essentially cast a free spell for you of which you have no control over. Not saying this can never be good, but is likely too expensive, too inconsistent to ever be.
Meta Analysis Winter 2021
https://lor.mobalytics.gg/meta-tier-list
So all the top decks are aggro or burn, and some would say that Gangplank Sejuani is midrange but they are still damaging you every turn so it sure feel agressive. So thats S tier.
A tier includes Jace Lux, Dragons, Thralls, Shadow as potential counters that play a little slower. Now is this actually representative of the games current balance or a response to all the greedy Heimer bs people were playing and instead got effectively 💩 on.
I would say likely more the second thing, like its not hard to tech in tavern keeper, and all different forms of healing that exist in the game to greatly improve your performance.
Even something like deny to crowd out burn plays are high effective. Personally I love when I see aggro decks because you literally know every play they are making before they do so any loss is a failure of deck building creativity vs a failure of play. So overall good meta, F you Heimer and learn to build decks that beat aggro?
Fractured in Alterac Valley
Hahah thanks mate!
I'd imagine we'll get the tavern crawl soon, I know card reveal season is manic for the OoC team and the Stormwind tavern crawl was released before the final card dump iirc
Wronchi Reveals Three New Cards for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Pyroblast go BOOM! Because I'm not a reasonable person!
The Lobotomizer is a New Rogue Card Revealed by Blizzard for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Simple design, no different from the many burgle cards rogue tends to have.
Unfortunately, probably will never see play unless [Hearthstone Card (lorekeeper pokelt) Not Found] is literally everywhere. It gets worse as the game progresses because minions would get bigger and you'd need to clear with face just so you can have a peek at what your opponent is going to get, which 90% of the time you'd would not be able to disrupt anyway.
Wronchi Reveals Three New Cards for Fractured in Alterac Valley
It literally says "another spell" in card text. I don't think it can cast another Iceblood Tower.
Xyrella, the Devout is a New Legendary Priest Hearthstone Card Revealed by Thijs for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Well, its certainly good.
The only problem here would be the battlecry. It'll only ever be good if enough deathrattles died this game, which means you can't just slot this into every priest deck and hope for the best, you'd need to invest in a gameplan, whether its Lightshower Elementals or Leper Gnomes. This makes the card more reliant on deck building and card draw rng more so than the other heros seen so far.
Will be interested to see what will come out of this card.
New Warrior Minion - Captain Galvangar
I'd imagine Grommash Hellscream is removed from the core set next year, Captain Galvangar would be the go to replacement. When the expansion launches, guess you can always add both legendries and just have one as a backup plan. With Frozen Buckler, any warrior could activate this legendary effect, so it's likely we'll see Captain Galvangar often enough.
Solving The Meta Again - Landmark Nasus
It sounds like you’ve got a good deck. But, I’m going to be honest and say nobody will care if you berate the people who disagree with you.
I’m actually curious to see how your dec fares up. I make my own decks and would be curious to test them against other home-brew. If you want to win against someone who can support your claims, I’ve put my gamer tag in the Looking for Friends thread (or whatever it’s called)
New Mage Spell - Iceblood Tower
This is a pretty good objective/landmark, compared to the others. Definitely meant for big spell mage and would be very good at 5 mana with Balinda Stonehearth
Hoping we get at least one more big spell over 6 mana that will fit into the deck. It isn't a great feeling having to run bad big spells like Grand Finale which brings down the overall win rate of the deck.
Wronchi Reveals Three New Cards for Fractured in Alterac Valley
Doesn't have to be control. Any warrior can get 15 armour easily. The card will probably be played in pirate warrior.
New Rogue Weapon - The Lobotomizer
Flavor Text: This may hurt a little, but don't worry, you won't remember it.
Quite fitting.
Flavor aside, it's a nice value generator, and most times you'll get a useful card seeing as most opponents wouldn't put garbage in their deck.
Scholomance's Transfer Student Gets an Upgrade in Alterac Valley With the New Honorable Kill Keyword
I wonder if they'll ever regret making this card.
"Finally, we're all done with the new expansion. Let's take a brea-"
"You forgot to update Transfer Student."
"Oh...right."
New Mage Minion - Balinda Stonehearth
Quite the interesting effect that I'm sure will see lots of experimentation, especially the possibilities with Potion of Illusion. Obviously meant for a big spell mage where you want to reduce the spells to 5 and increase the minion stats to 6+. Least we know the maximum this legendary's stats can be are 10/10.
Only down side is running a bunch of 5 cost spells, which big mage would need to do, so this would effectively just draw 2 spells, which isn't terrible either.