People will always find a reason to complain. Personally, I like this environment as a watcher -- skill and tactics have a significant impact, and I appreciate seeing how each professional player approaches a particular matchup. For example, sometimes they'll delay playing the quest until turn 2 or 3, because board presence is more important. The whole final match between jiuqianyu and AyRoK was full of examples like this that showcased player talent.
So I've been vocal that I think this expansion is pretty great.
We had a big issue where the meta was entirely dominated by burst spells and decks
While statistically those lists are still strong, more then ever it feels like we have the necessary value tools to combat quick attackers, elusive, and other buff sticks.
So I figured I'd go over some off meta decks that I believe offer some very strong potential in meta matchups.
Ziggs Zillian, Thaliyah is statistically the best landmark deck on mobalytics with an astounding 51% winrate.
Now their version runs bandlewood, so you get what? A 1 mana 2/1 that is worse than treasure seeker, a stun at slow speed instead of the better fast speed option, and a 8 mana finisher that's slower than the 6 mana finisher.
Solution just cut bandlewood, run the good targon cards, and you even have room for the champion tutor which a 3 champ distribution needs.
Possible the fastest aggro deck in the meta if a little high rolly. Go wide early, burn them out late game. Bonus points for landing butcher on the 0/1 on turn 2 or lulu on turn 3 transforming it into a 4/4.
Go Hard Senna is bad it has a 50% winrate on mobalytics and is just worse than the bandlewood version, instead we run go hard Viego, which gives us a much better late game wincon, along side Ezreal.
Speaking of infinite value, Anivia is a beast right now alongside Kindred. Which is largely the result of two factors, not a lot of pure aggro, and two not a lot of 3 mana answers being run like Blackspear and harpoon.
Your line of play here is to play the 3 mana follower and get your darkness. Then bring him back and get your darkness again, this is all just to delay to getting to the good stuff.
I think everybody loves Heimer, he's just a fun champ, and while I won't claim this is an amazing deck, it does have the privilege of being the best Heimer deck.
Having acess to bandlewood value engines alongside targon stall, and a few extra "silences" means that there is a possibility that Heimer will actually get to do his thing.
If cheap spell triggers are good for fizz they are also great for Lee Sin. Here we double down on his control potential because he's no longer the best combo stick, and he was never really designed for that anyway.
Up the cost of your opponents answers, play leveled Lee Sin backed up by yassao and kick everything, it also helps that hidden pathways is just better than deep med for digging through your deck.
There is indeed a variety of decks and archetypes in MT, but this stormwind meta is far from the best we've had in a long time. It's just so awful to play against warlock when you are not playing warlock. I much prefer the DMF meta with Tickatus, he looks so tame now
I wanted to share something with you. An awesome moment for me. A game where I was able to get crazy Armor Vendor Value against an Odd Questline Hunter.
I have never played so many Armor Vendors in one game before. The Shudderwock turn was fantastic :-) This video also serves as a reminder, that Shudderwock Shaman is still awesome.
Until it becomes viable again, keep it secret and keep it safe (heed the wise words of Gandalf): - 0:09 - 20:08
I didn't think of that, getting to pick your beast pack could be interesting you could choose combo pieces like Gonk, the Raptor or tech options you might not need like Rustrot Viper. if that is how it's supposed to work then it might actually be my new favourite card in the set.
Hey, congratulations for your 900 wins with Demon Hunter and good luck for the remaining 100! I too am trying to get Demonic Illidan, but my grind has been put to an halt since Stormwind released, given that I refuse to play any deck that contains Il'gynoth's degeneracy.
For the rest of the classes, I have made quite a from progresses since the last time.
Priest (1464) - as always, I am not focusing on the class, given I already have many wins with it. The additional wins come from Questline games and achievement grinding.
Rogue (1039) - same as Priest; wins come from achievement grinding and Duels.
Hunter (736) - still not interested in the class at all...
Druid (628) - Questline Druid was fun till it lasted.
Warlock (591) - grind that Blightborn Tamsin achievement isn't gonna grind it by itself...
Demon Hunter (680) - as I already mentioned, Deathrattle DH has become quite stale to me without new spicy support, and Fel DH still isn't a powerful deck.
Mage (552) - get the golden hero before Stormwind with No Minion Mage and kept abusing Incanter's Flow when Sorcerer's Gambit was released.
Shaman (638) - Questline Shaman is good. Also lots of Duels.
Paladin (438) - the only progress you see is from crappy Duels builds.
Warrior (468) - I crafted Raid the Docks especially for Duels and I am deeply enjoying it!
I think this has been one of the best metagames in a long time, both for ladder and in tournaments. This article shows it perfectly, every class had at least one viable deck and most even more. There have been many Masters Tours were pretty much everybody in the top 8 brought the same 4 decks, but that was far from the case this time. As a competitor it makes it a lot harder though, since you can't just trust in your own skill as a deck pilot and actually have to make important choices when picking your line-up. As an aside, massive props for predicting Fel DH so accurately in the theorycrafting! I couldn't have seen this build coming. That being said, BROOT ME DOOD
I just reached 900 wins with Demon Hunter which means the light at the end of the tunnel has become visible to me. I can almost taste the bitter sweet victory and finally collect the awesome Demonic Illidan hero portrait. My motivation to complete this long run is now greater than ever before. I am so hyped!
See you when I cross the finish line in approximately two more weeks! 🏁
The way I read Elise, you get to choose the three Beasts when you go to make your deck. As in, when you add Elise to your deck, some kind of selection window would pop up for you to pick the Beasts. This would reward large Collections, as opposed to the opposite. Destroying your Collection to ensure you get what you want sounds absolutely terrible; I hope that's the wrong interpretation D:
...still a problem, either-way, since you can curate what you get and pick Legendaries the Druid just shouldn't have access to (like Krag'wa, the Frog).
These are some pretty cool and creative designs, I especially like Voyager Finley as a build around card but I hope we never see anything like Elise the Earthbound printed in hearthstone, by the looks of it takes from the players current collection and having to constantly disenchant most of my collection to get the most consistent beast pack seems like a pain. I am looking forward to seeing that tundra set though, I love kobolds and catacombs.
I'm having a ton of fun with this Wild version of Shadow Priest. It's a race to the bottom of your health total! I've borrowed a few ideas and rolled in some of my own. I've written up a short guide as well.
Hearthstone Masters Tour Silvermoon Weekend - A Deeper Dive & Interesting Decks From Established Competitors
People will always find a reason to complain. Personally, I like this environment as a watcher -- skill and tactics have a significant impact, and I appreciate seeing how each professional player approaches a particular matchup. For example, sometimes they'll delay playing the quest until turn 2 or 3, because board presence is more important. The whole final match between jiuqianyu and AyRoK was full of examples like this that showcased player talent.
Blizzard Confirms Hearthstone Battlegrounds Rating Reset Next Week - Tribes Overhaul Update is Coming!
+100
These "designers" have no clue how not to design powercreep in this game... (not only BGs)...
The Winners of Anton Zemskov's FanArt Brawl #15 'Hot Azeroth's Summer' - A Custom Hearthstone Art Competition!
damnit, I wanted to be the one to say this
The Winners of Anton Zemskov's FanArt Brawl #15 'Hot Azeroth's Summer' - A Custom Hearthstone Art Competition!
booba good
Off Meta Decks - To Dominate Bandlewood
So I've been vocal that I think this expansion is pretty great.
We had a big issue where the meta was entirely dominated by burst spells and decks
While statistically those lists are still strong, more then ever it feels like we have the necessary value tools to combat quick attackers, elusive, and other buff sticks.
So I figured I'd go over some off meta decks that I believe offer some very strong potential in meta matchups.
Ziggs Zillian, Thaliyah is statistically the best landmark deck on mobalytics with an astounding 51% winrate.
Now their version runs bandlewood, so you get what? A 1 mana 2/1 that is worse than treasure seeker, a stun at slow speed instead of the better fast speed option, and a 8 mana finisher that's slower than the 6 mana finisher.
Solution just cut bandlewood, run the good targon cards, and you even have room for the champion tutor which a 3 champ distribution needs.
Possible the fastest aggro deck in the meta if a little high rolly. Go wide early, burn them out late game. Bonus points for landing butcher on the 0/1 on turn 2 or lulu on turn 3 transforming it into a 4/4.
Go Hard Senna is bad it has a 50% winrate on mobalytics and is just worse than the bandlewood version, instead we run go hard Viego, which gives us a much better late game wincon, along side Ezreal.
Speaking of infinite value, Anivia is a beast right now alongside Kindred. Which is largely the result of two factors, not a lot of pure aggro, and two not a lot of 3 mana answers being run like Blackspear and harpoon.
Your line of play here is to play the 3 mana follower and get your darkness. Then bring him back and get your darkness again, this is all just to delay to getting to the good stuff.
Ie free kindred kills, and anivia sweeps.
I think everybody loves Heimer, he's just a fun champ, and while I won't claim this is an amazing deck, it does have the privilege of being the best Heimer deck.
Having acess to bandlewood value engines alongside targon stall, and a few extra "silences" means that there is a possibility that Heimer will actually get to do his thing.
If cheap spell triggers are good for fizz they are also great for Lee Sin. Here we double down on his control potential because he's no longer the best combo stick, and he was never really designed for that anyway.
Up the cost of your opponents answers, play leveled Lee Sin backed up by yassao and kick everything, it also helps that hidden pathways is just better than deep med for digging through your deck.
Hearthstone Masters Tour Silvermoon Weekend - A Deeper Dive & Interesting Decks From Established Competitors
There is indeed a variety of decks and archetypes in MT, but this stormwind meta is far from the best we've had in a long time. It's just so awful to play against warlock when you are not playing warlock. I much prefer the DMF meta with Tickatus, he looks so tame now
The Winners of Anton Zemskov's FanArt Brawl #15 'Hot Azeroth's Summer' - A Custom Hearthstone Art Competition!
I quite like the clever touch using a water elemental to surf on for the winner, very creative
PS: Unfortunately, folks in the southern Hemisphere have to wait a couple more months for our summer! It's been a freezing winter ❄🌨
The Winners of Anton Zemskov's FanArt Brawl #15 'Hot Azeroth's Summer' - A Custom Hearthstone Art Competition!
booba
Darkseeker's channel - 13th November update: KOtsosKOtsos' Reno Evolve Shudderwock Shaman - ft. Archivist Elysiana
30th August update: DustyScales Reno Shaman: Armor Vendor Value! / Keeping Shudderwock Secret & Safe!
I wanted to share something with you. An awesome moment for me. A game where I was able to get crazy Armor Vendor Value against an Odd Questline Hunter.
I have never played so many Armor Vendors in one game before. The Shudderwock turn was fantastic :-) This video also serves as a reminder, that Shudderwock Shaman is still awesome.
Until it becomes viable again, keep it secret and keep it safe (heed the wise words of Gandalf):
- 0:09
- 20:08
Deck code: AAEBAaoIHvoOwxb2vQL5vwKXwQLfxAKbywKLzgKr5wLD6gKm8ALv9wKggAOtkQO1mAO9mQP8owPPpQOTuQOTwgOS5AOo7gPj7gOm7wPB9gPS+QPZ+QOG+gOoigT9nwQAAA==
More Shudderwock decks: http://discord.gg/nU2bkEV (For Doomhammer Shaman Discord server).
DustyScales Twitter: https://twitter.com/DustyScales
https://youtu.be/Bh70EA0nyBo
Fresh 12-Win Starting Decks for the New United in Stormwind Duels Meta
This Quest Demon Hunter is really good! I made 12 wins and lost only 1 match.
But instead of Fireshaper I got Robes of Shrinking. It has awesome synergy with this deck card draw.
Also I got good card buckets with at least 1 card drawing others, this played an important role.
The Winners of Anton Zemskov's FanArt Brawl #15 'Hot Azeroth's Summer' - A Custom Hearthstone Art Competition!
As I'm currently making a custom expansion with a vacation theme, these artworks ended up being perfectly timed. And they're all awesome.
The Pepper Thread - Share Some Good Vibes!
I effing did it, boys and girls. I turn 1 oh-my-yogged a Quest Mage. With a 1k wins portrait, in diamond rank.
The Winners of Anton Zemskov's FanArt Brawl #15 'Hot Azeroth's Summer' - A Custom Hearthstone Art Competition!
All of them are legendary, very refreshing to see. Nice work guys.
Banterbox's "A Tale Untold" Custom Set - Hearthstone Fan Community Spotlight
I didn't think of that, getting to pick your beast pack could be interesting you could choose combo pieces like Gonk, the Raptor or tech options you might not need like Rustrot Viper. if that is how it's supposed to work then it might actually be my new favourite card in the set.
Master Duelist 1.1: Twisted... To Perfection! - Submission Thread
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Sorry, i'm bad at editing, can't even get images to show:)
Anyway, got 10 wins with a druid
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Last boss was priest with fireshaper and oops all spells...
Reminder: Full Dust Refunds for Hearthstone's August 2021 Card Nerfs End Soon!
Woohoo! Done and dusted! :)
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
Hey, congratulations for your 900 wins with Demon Hunter and good luck for the remaining 100! I too am trying to get Demonic Illidan, but my grind has been put to an halt since Stormwind released, given that I refuse to play any deck that contains Il'gynoth's degeneracy.
For the rest of the classes, I have made quite a from progresses since the last time.
Priest (1464) - as always, I am not focusing on the class, given I already have many wins with it. The additional wins come from Questline games and achievement grinding.
Rogue (1039) - same as Priest; wins come from achievement grinding and Duels.
Hunter (736) - still not interested in the class at all...
Druid (628) - Questline Druid was fun till it lasted.
Warlock (591) - grind that Blightborn Tamsin achievement isn't gonna grind it by itself...
Demon Hunter (680) - as I already mentioned, Deathrattle DH has become quite stale to me without new spicy support, and Fel DH still isn't a powerful deck.
Mage (552) - get the golden hero before Stormwind with No Minion Mage and kept abusing Incanter's Flow when Sorcerer's Gambit was released.
Shaman (638) - Questline Shaman is good. Also lots of Duels.
Paladin (438) - the only progress you see is from crappy Duels builds.
Warrior (468) - I crafted Raid the Docks especially for Duels and I am deeply enjoying it!
Hearthstone Masters Tour Silvermoon Weekend - A Deeper Dive & Interesting Decks From Established Competitors
I think this has been one of the best metagames in a long time, both for ladder and in tournaments. This article shows it perfectly, every class had at least one viable deck and most even more. There have been many Masters Tours were pretty much everybody in the top 8 brought the same 4 decks, but that was far from the case this time. As a competitor it makes it a lot harder though, since you can't just trust in your own skill as a deck pilot and actually have to make important choices when picking your line-up. As an aside, massive props for predicting Fel DH so accurately in the theorycrafting! I couldn't have seen this build coming. That being said, BROOT ME DOOD
Banterbox's "A Tale Untold" Custom Set - Hearthstone Fan Community Spotlight
This set is stupendous!
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (Hearthstone Riddles)
First line is class (already guessed)
second line a reference to voice line
third line is a card mechanic the card interacts with
fourth line is another reference to voice line
Banterbox's "A Tale Untold" Custom Set - Hearthstone Fan Community Spotlight
Really nice set of cards. Love cards like Rakanishu and Splat! Great stuff.
Golden Hero Portrait - Completionist & Grind
I just reached 900 wins with Demon Hunter which means the light at the end of the tunnel has become visible to me. I can almost taste the bitter sweet victory and finally collect the awesome Demonic Illidan hero portrait. My motivation to complete this long run is now greater than ever before. I am so hyped!
See you when I cross the finish line in approximately two more weeks! 🏁
Banterbox's "A Tale Untold" Custom Set - Hearthstone Fan Community Spotlight
The way I read Elise, you get to choose the three Beasts when you go to make your deck. As in, when you add Elise to your deck, some kind of selection window would pop up for you to pick the Beasts. This would reward large Collections, as opposed to the opposite. Destroying your Collection to ensure you get what you want sounds absolutely terrible; I hope that's the wrong interpretation D:
...still a problem, either-way, since you can curate what you get and pick Legendaries the Druid just shouldn't have access to (like Krag'wa, the Frog).
Banterbox's "A Tale Untold" Custom Set - Hearthstone Fan Community Spotlight
These are some pretty cool and creative designs, I especially like Voyager Finley as a build around card but I hope we never see anything like Elise the Earthbound printed in hearthstone, by the looks of it takes from the players current collection and having to constantly disenchant most of my collection to get the most consistent beast pack seems like a pain. I am looking forward to seeing that tundra set though, I love kobolds and catacombs.
Weekend of Wild Decks - Highlander Elemental Shaman, Dinomancy Questline Hunter, Handbuff Paladin, & More
I'm having a ton of fun with this Wild version of Shadow Priest. It's a race to the bottom of your health total! I've borrowed a few ideas and rolled in some of my own. I've written up a short guide as well.
Wild · Shadow Priest · by ToadOgre · 5 years ago