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I often search my collection by "extra" or "new" but "refund", that's a new one to me - thanks !

"Game-breaking," maybe not. But I can understand why it feels broken. I lost a game to this deck before I read about it. 

I had no idea why the MechAthun death rattle animation was playing. The person piloting the deck might see the card get destroyed by Myra, but the opponent doesn't see that. Calling it a bug is a fair assessment. 

Yeah I wasn't picking on Lux in particular I probably made one of the more viable lux lists and I consider her....fine. Entrapment or whatever is a pretty good card.

But I was just commenting on the threads subject on why the new Champs might feel op when compared to the vanilla lineup especially for new players.

Right class, wrong mechanic.

Bolner Hammerbeak?

Thank you (as always)! And hah, yeah - it's such a weird sensation trying to recall the metagame as it was over a specific time period, and then see what stood out on top of that. I keep hoping they come up with a better schedule for the next year, for a better overlap between Qualifiers and their corresponding Masters Tours. Would make it easier for that handful of us who care. 

Not surprising, Freljord and Targon are both oriented toward Midrange and Control play style and tend to struggle in aggro dominated meta. But Ionia? Ionia is one the strongest region right now and decks like Lulu/Zed elusive and Azir/Irelia is one of the main reason why those two region struggle so much in the first place, the other one being Sivir decks.

I we are starting with the debate why certain champions can't be viable at a time then I doubt we come to constructive conclusion. 

I mean of cause Lux is a bad champion because her design and stats make no sense at all:

she doesn't have a great statline to fight, yet she has barrier

she is a 6 mana champion that can't level in deck and has a requirement that can be served very poorly in her region. 

No matter how you turn it: Lux sucks and there is no hope in her Archetype making sense other than reworking her theme from the ground or add a ton of viable spells to demacia. 

My suggestions would be: change the mageseeker requirement to: you have spent 6 spellmana this game instead of  casted a 6 mana spell and Lux level up as you spent 8 spell mana. 

She also should be a 5 mana 4/4 barrier with: "whenever I attack or block spend all spellmana to give me +1/+1 this round for each spellmana spent" 

You can always check if you extra of mentioned cards by typing "refund" in your collection manager. 

Its no secret that regions that appear "off set" ie. Not featured as part of the initial champion release in the first part of the expansion can end up feeling a little weak.

But never before had this felt so clearly the case as with Bandlewood. There are arguments to be made that Ionia and Targon aren't seeing a lot of play right now, however these regions do have strong arguments for deck inclusion. 

Ionia has Lee Sin, it has counters, it has token generation, and stuns/recalls. Targon has invoke and hush, and daybreak, but what about Frejord?

Ramp strategies are unviable, landmark decks are better in other regions, midrange identity is playable but not great, and control is definately one of the worst choices right now.

Don't believe me? Graplr just posted a video poking fun at how Freijord is the most underrepresented region at the moment.

https://youtu.be/DoEZF7vsXT0

Its less that new Champs > old Champs and more that there is a wider gulph opening between what Champs and decks are viable.

For example Sivir is basically a 60% winrate champ Lux is probably closer to 40%. So that range of 20% is the difference between can climb easily and can't climb at all.

So could you make clear what you mean by "fix the game"?

This phrase is about as vague as it gets and if anything you should make give a picture what you want for the game. 

Do you think the balance is so bad? Do you think we have too many effects too many cards that are breakable? 

Do you think certain regions are not fair? 

Do you think the game is too stale? 

I mean I am quite certain that the game won't return to it's glory days from beta/release.

Imo that is because LoR lacks novelty and deckbuilding becomes less and less a creativity task when there is an increasing amount of clearly best in slot cards for certain archetypes. 

And it is kinda necessary to print cards with certain archetypes in mind because an universal card like Will of Ionia is super difficult to balance in an environment with evergrowing possibilities.

You will have to make every flexible card weak, making the archetype specific cards stronger if you don't want every ionia deck to run 2-3 copies of the flexible cards but this limits on the other hand deckbuilding options a lot. But ultimately the increasing powerlevel is what keeps so many strategies and playstyles dead on arrival. 

If you take the latest versions of elusive decks it is quite obvious that your deck needs a strong elusive defence or a lot of removal ready to stop this strategy which excludes many lists that otherwise could be viable right now. 

The MarkMcKz Mechathun Blade Rogue deck is really fun, not game.breaking and suspectible to aggro but with good draw can end the game turn 6-7 surprising the opponent. And beats res priest consistently!

Battletag: Masteredd#21282

Region: EU

Trade Only?: Yes

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As an arena player I want the draft options... Please... And can also recommend Vinland saga. 

I'm currently making it as full Mono but obviously you can cut down and add whatever you like to it. I suggest you can cut 1 Stress Defense because I only put them in against decks like Lee Sin, but it's hard to find its uses often. You could also try cutting 1 Poro Sled because it's not as good as I thought it'd be. 1 Fizz was added just for a faster The Bandle Tree wincon and I didn't want to get too heavy on 4 drops.

Regardless, this is the list I am currently running even if it's not fully effective and this has been doing pretty well. I've beaten most Darkness decks, most Nami Fizz, most Sion. Deck should only realistically lose to decks that A) out tempo it like Poppy decks or B) decks that can clear the board more than once reliably or C) Deny Yordles in Arms.

Tenor of Terror, Bandle City Mayor, Gruff Grenadier, and Bandle Commando are the definite standouts of the deck.

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Honestly, I'm surprised how well Darkness Control is doing right now. I knew that it won't be terrible, but I'm still surprised that it has a dominant winrate over other newer decks. I've played against it quite a bit but I've stomped it every time so I guess I just faced bad players.

Fizz Nami elusives feels like the new TF/Fizz. A lot of burst damage coming out of nowhere but a lot more unit based than burn. Deck feels like a hard deck to play so I'm actually not that surprised by a lower winrate. Also it loses pretty hard to removals and pings. Probably going to be tier 2 in the end.

Draven Sion is good but don't run it in SI that's kinda meme. PnZ discard with Poro Cannons and Get Excited!. The deck has a lot of grindy tools while having enough pressure early that it feels pretty good. Sion levels insanely quick as well, I've never seen it played as level 1.

Teemo Caitlyn is RNG-reliant but it can definitely steamroll if you don't have removal for their engines.

Poppy seems to be the most versatile champion and I dig it. A lot of ways to play it and they're similar in playstyle yet not too similar. MF/Poppy Scout Suppressor, Poppy Teemo Allegiance, Poppy Lulu, Poppy Zed, Poppy Taric (personally the strongest one). Poppy's pretty good.

Xerath is crying in a corner. Ziggs is being tested out a lot but yeah no solid decks thus far. I wonder if it's best to not run either and go for Taliyah/X again.

I know a lot of people build BC Allegiance using The Bandle Tree, but has anyone tried using Yordles in Arms? I've like smashed most matchups using a more aggressive swarm gameplan and slotting in Bandle Tree only as a secondary wincon. I'm... going for a huge prediction and I'm calling this deck tier 1. Just don't run Tristana lmao.

Could you give me the code for the deck that uses yordle in arms

I know you’re taking a break from hs right now but just wanted to let you know that I did update the decklist to what I think is the best for Stormwind after some testing and good results. So yeah if you’re ever still interested this basically answers the original question about card choices.

All I can say is that I've basically stopped playing both LoR and Hearthstone for the last week or so. Have been playing LoR for a year and a half, and I played HS for about 2 years prior to that.

It may or may not say something significant about both games that I'm currently getting into Raid: Shadow Legends for the first time ever, and enjoying it more than either of the above card games.

Riot and Blizz both have some work to do to fix their games.

Guided by the elements

Maker of the storm

When you borrow power

those around you will be thunderstruck!

Does that mean we're gonna learn about the details of the overhaul when it happens? I was hoping to see it a little while before it released

The only true difference between the old system and new system is just the amount of grinding it takes to reach 'rank 5', where you get the best monthly rewards outside of legend. Either way you're still required to have a win rate higher than 55% to get back because while the star bonuses is based on MMR, the floor is always 5 ranks below where you started (diamond 10 grants 8 stars, your star bonus ends on rank 5 plat). Fool around too much and you'll lose your advantage in the next month. Also 'rank 5' is by no means the end goal; for those wishing to progress further they can still do so because reaching high legend is the real grind that separates a pro and us layman.

Your gripe, at least what seems to me, is on the match making difference between points 1 and 2 but I would argue that point 1 is the better experience between of the two. Being matched with someone on comparable MMR means Im facing someone I should be facing. Point 2 allows for the possibility of facing a tougher opponent but it also works vice versa. And since there's always a greater pool of lower skilled players you're often more likely to face someone weaker rather than better, because theoretically better players would easily have grinded upwards anyway.

Every game matters only as much as the player wants it to matter; if you want higher stakes play a more skill testing deck like quest dhunter and grind yourself back up. If you want a more easier ride, just play easier decks like handlock or quest shaman.

I should also mention that the old system allows for legend tier players to play off against much weaker opponents and that's never a good thing in terms of overall experience. I remember back when I was in rank 20 with a limited collection, going against golden heroes with full collections. I wasn't trilled at the opportunity to face a better opponent; it was such a one sided battle that it reminded me why the game is often perceived as pay-to-win.

Am I the only one who thinks that BG rating model is far more worse then constructed leagues model? I got 8k this season and I don't know how good I am (not that I do care much, just interested), the only thing I know that pro-players got 13k+. In constructed I'm 8k too and I know that this is pretty good.