7 attack should kill most things, and the next time around it will have 10. I'm not sure how much it will kill before the health total is worn down to 0 though.
Feedback time while the reveals are paused. Glacier Crystalfin seems to be the popular choice, so I think I'll go with that one. I kinda want to keep it Neutral though (specifically if I put it in KotFT as Shaman having both it and Brrrloc in the same set would be a little bit weird). Skipping a few people who have already submitted if I don't have anything to add to the discussion.
Wailor
Well you've already submitted, but I do think your submitted version of Holyfin Crusader is pretty damn good. Probably the best card you've come through with in this competition so far.
Shatterstar1998
You've also already submitted, so I can't really help you. I personally preferred the first version of Vilefine Spawner, though I think the version you submitted will likely get the job done in score since it uses Tradeable in an interesting way that I appreciate.
Arkasaur
Definitely go with the Rush version in my opinion.
Anchorm4n
Zooming in on the art actually does help with the flavor. Pretty smart thinking!
I do think it's perhaps a bit too "on the nose" in terms of being a Zilliax counter, but I think the flavor alone will have a good chance of carrying you forward.
AnAngryBadger
Tinyfin, the Unkillable has some funny flavor, but the artwork is too pixelated and is obviously a zoomed-in version of Tinyfin's Caravan.
Gillidari Avenger is definitely my favorite of the bunch, though suiciding Murlocs for a measly +1 Attack boost per Murloc is usually not going to do as much damage as simply just using them to attack face instead. Thus, I think it renders the card a bit situational.
Mushfin Murloc and Mana Murloc I'm unfortunately not a big fan of. The former doesn't feel like a Choose One design that would be printed and I think it's a bit that one choice is basically just Coldlight Oracle, and the latter feels too cluttered in different effects of which not all of them feel very Druid-like.
KangTheCounqueror
I like it for the most part. It's typically just better to use the Murlocs to hit face instead which will give more damage output, but it could potentially give you quite a lot of chip damage attacking through Taunt minions or disincentivizing AoE clears, or even if you need to make emergency trades.
I think I really need to work on giving feedback more often because a lot of people submit and then I have something else to add to the cards they made.
Just go ahead, I wouldn't have guessed it on my own either. Figuring out what each hint means is what makes this game fun for me, winning a question is just the cherry on top.
Incredible card. Bolner Hammerbeak has OTK potential with Y'Shaarj, the Defiler and Lightning Bloom, can be a draw engine together with cards like Primal Dungeoneer. Oh and apparently if you play Bolner Hammerbeak before playing a battlecry minion, IT DOUBLES IT because the text says "AFTER". Oh and it has 4 health, and as we know from cards like Efficient Octo-bot and the watchposts, 2 mana 4 health minions can be HARD to remove on turn 2.
So basicly Bolner Hammerbeak acts like a Brann Bronzebeard for the 1st battlecry minion played AND repeats the battlecry of the 1st battlecry minion after each other battlecry minion you play.
We also have Fizz Draven , and Temo Zed. Now you havent heard of these decks, want to know why? Because frankly every deck that uses their champions as burst speed non interaction sticks play the same and are built the same.
The exception being Lee Sin because that deck actually is fairly balanced due to its longer game plan.
Your ideal scenario is not ideal at all. No wonder you're unreasonably pessimistic.
Ideal turn 2 scenario would be Aldor Attendant into Libram of Wisdom.
Oh my Yogg, Galloping Savior and Reckoning are cheap ways to gain tempo back. They can also be generated and discovered.
You don't have to play 9 different 1-cost cards. Only 3 different 1-cost card three times.
Also, you can't judge a new expansion deck based on the old expansion meta. We can be sure that aggro and midrange would still exist in UiS but we can't be sure that they would be as oppressive as they were in FitB. Meta fluctuates depending on what decks are being run. There are still plenty of cards yet to be revealed. It seems premature to exclaim that
there will never exist a meta slow enough for this to work in any capacity
Thanks, but I really feel bad about taking the next one since I never would have figured this one out without them. I was sure that line 3 had to be Acornbearer, which left me thinking about First Day of School, or something else? In Wild you can almost get there (Dust Devil, Glacial Shard, Acornbearer), if you ignored that fourth line, the class hints, and the Standard hint (details, details). Once the fourth line was clarified and anchorm4n mentioned the spell angle, then the answer became easier to figure out.
I'd rather try and discount [Hearthstone Card (Libram of Judgement) Not Found] as that can go face if needed. However if there are healing synergies maybe this can make the cut as a faster way to trigger them.
Requires some build around, but still very nice. Expensive, so there's more risk of having drawn your cards already, so you may want to put 3-4 of each. Not a lot of Divine Shield options outside of Paladin though.
Kind of disappointed that it's 8/6 rather than a 8/8, but the real thing that holds him back is that he's a Legendary and not a Epic, so you only have one copy in the deck. Still going to be a solid inclusion in Control Warlock decks.
Nothing too crazy in the deathrattle pool currently but summoning an extra minion or drawing a card on play isn't bad. Could be interesting. Currently looking at using Infiltrator Lilian for fun and for that scream!
I already posted Holyfin Crusader, but I droped the Divine Shield on the main body as Hordaki suggested bc it seemed a bit too strong.
Anyways, more feedback:
shatterstar1998
My favorite card is the Vilefin Trafficker with the Discover effect. Pretty neat card, IMO.
Demonxz95
Don't worry about the reused card. I ended up using a different card, and I don't think it's too bad if two cards use the same one, especially in a competition with a limited art pool like this one.
About your cards, I think Glacier Crystalfin is my favorite, but both the artwork and the effect scream Shaman to me. You could even put it in Knights of the Frozen Throne, since that expansion featured both Freeze and Murloc synergy for Shaman.
R
The flavor is pretty good, and the requirement plus the fact that Murlocs tend to be low-cost, makes it not broken.
Arkasaur
I think the Rush version is balanced, so I'd go with this one. Now that the card is playable, I think this could easily win the comp.
anchorm4n
I still prefer the Demon Hunter card, but okay. Between the two, I think the 4 mana cost is better, because 6 for a tech card seems like too much, even if it hits a card like Zilliax.
Cheese
It's hard to tell because it's a very weird card.
On the one hand, it is very good on Lightfang builds, because it allows you to spend gold without needing a free slot, which is something these builds tend to struggle with.
On the other hand, it's completely unplayable in most Murloc builds, because it doesn't allow you to use their Battlecries, which is the build strenght.
All in all, I'd say Tavern Three is more appropriate, but it's really hard to tell.
AeroJulwin
I still believe it should be an aura effect, but otherwise it's your best iteration. You should probably use a non-Classic watermark, though.
linkblade91
I like both new cards more than Felfin Inquisitor. Franken-Mrrgl is probably my fav of the bunch because of flavor. And yes, I agree he should gain their stats instead (murlocs tend to be small, so it wouldn't be too OP)
AnAngryBadger
I think Mushfin Oracleis my favorite of the bunch, very nice flexibility, especially in case you Discover it. Also, I really enjoy callback cards.
Gillidari Avenger is also neat, but it would need more support than it currently has, so maybe some people punish that a little bit.
The other two cards have neat effect (especially Tinyfin, the Unkillable, although the artwork is too blurry), but I don't see the need for them to be Murlocs.
KangTheConqueror
I agree with your decision to make it only go face. The effect doesn't seem very flashy, but I find it very appropriate for a Neutral card.
New Warrior Minion - Lothar
7 attack should kill most things, and the next time around it will have 10. I'm not sure how much it will kill before the health total is worn down to 0 though.
Finfested Waters - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Feedback time while the reveals are paused. Glacier Crystalfin seems to be the popular choice, so I think I'll go with that one. I kinda want to keep it Neutral though (specifically if I put it in KotFT as Shaman having both it and Brrrloc in the same set would be a little bit weird). Skipping a few people who have already submitted if I don't have anything to add to the discussion.
Zooming in on the art actually does help with the flavor. Pretty smart thinking!
I do think it's perhaps a bit too "on the nose" in terms of being a Zilliax counter, but I think the flavor alone will have a good chance of carrying you forward.
Tinyfin, the Unkillable has some funny flavor, but the artwork is too pixelated and is obviously a zoomed-in version of Tinyfin's Caravan.
Gillidari Avenger is definitely my favorite of the bunch, though suiciding Murlocs for a measly +1 Attack boost per Murloc is usually not going to do as much damage as simply just using them to attack face instead. Thus, I think it renders the card a bit situational.
Mushfin Murloc and Mana Murloc I'm unfortunately not a big fan of. The former doesn't feel like a Choose One design that would be printed and I think it's a bit that one choice is basically just Coldlight Oracle, and the latter feels too cluttered in different effects of which not all of them feel very Druid-like.
I think I really need to work on giving feedback more often because a lot of people submit and then I have something else to add to the cards they made.
New Legendary Warlock Card Revealed for United in Stormwind by Blizzard & Friends - Anetheron
I don't have high hopes for this without any keywords but who knows, an 8/6 for 1 might be okay on its own
New Paladin Weapon - Lightbringer's Hammer
Wow what a peace of hot garbage. Basicly budget Truesilver Champion that cant go face. This is 100% made for a control deck, BUT i feel like Libram of Judgment is a card you rather use instead of Lightbringer's Hammer.
Yeh this is just dust. Maybe arena card at best.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Just go ahead, I wouldn't have guessed it on my own either. Figuring out what each hint means is what makes this game fun for me, winning a question is just the cherry on top.
New Warlock Card Revealed for United in Stormwind by Keuhn - Dark Alley Pact
Damn I thought he was from Ashes of Outland
New Shaman Minion - Bolner Hammerbeak
Incredible card. Bolner Hammerbeak has OTK potential with Y'Shaarj, the Defiler and Lightning Bloom, can be a draw engine together with cards like Primal Dungeoneer. Oh and apparently if you play Bolner Hammerbeak before playing a battlecry minion, IT DOUBLES IT because the text says "AFTER". Oh and it has 4 health, and as we know from cards like Efficient Octo-bot and the watchposts, 2 mana 4 health minions can be HARD to remove on turn 2.
So basicly Bolner Hammerbeak acts like a Brann Bronzebeard for the 1st battlecry minion played AND repeats the battlecry of the 1st battlecry minion after each other battlecry minion you play.
Not just all of that, BUT Bolner Hammerbeak is also NUTS in wild, because of lackeys. Imagine each lacky also having the Lifedrinker battlecry because of Bolner Hammerbeak....
Bolner Hammerbeak i.m.o. is a 10/5 star card, this card is absolutely insane.
Removal Gets Worse With Every Expansion
We also have Fizz Draven , and Temo Zed. Now you havent heard of these decks, want to know why? Because frankly every deck that uses their champions as burst speed non interaction sticks play the same and are built the same.
The exception being Lee Sin because that deck actually is fairly balanced due to its longer game plan.
The Legendary Paladin Questline Has Been Revealed for United in Stormwind by Gamespot - Rise to the Occasion
Your ideal scenario is not ideal at all. No wonder you're unreasonably pessimistic.
Ideal turn 2 scenario would be Aldor Attendant into Libram of Wisdom.
Oh my Yogg, Galloping Savior and Reckoning are cheap ways to gain tempo back. They can also be generated and discovered.
You don't have to play 9 different 1-cost cards. Only 3 different 1-cost card three times.
Also, you can't judge a new expansion deck based on the old expansion meta. We can be sure that aggro and midrange would still exist in UiS but we can't be sure that they would be as oppressive as they were in FitB. Meta fluctuates depending on what decks are being run. There are still plenty of cards yet to be revealed. It seems premature to exclaim that
New Legendary Warlock Card Revealed for United in Stormwind by Blizzard & Friends - Anetheron
Cool common card effect!
Finfested Waters - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Went with Franken-Mrrgl; thank you Wailor. I will blame you if I lose lol :)
I hate Murlocs, so submitting a card that destroys your Murlocs seems on point.
New Warlock Minion - Anetheron
Compare this to the DH 6/6 with Rush (Bladed Lady?)
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Thanks, but I really feel bad about taking the next one since I never would have figured this one out without them. I was sure that line 3 had to be Acornbearer, which left me thinking about First Day of School, or something else? In Wild you can almost get there (Dust Devil, Glacial Shard, Acornbearer), if you ignored that fourth line, the class hints, and the Standard hint (details, details). Once the fourth line was clarified and anchorm4n mentioned the spell angle, then the answer became easier to figure out.
New Paladin Weapon - Lightbringer's Hammer
I'd rather try and discount [Hearthstone Card (Libram of Judgement) Not Found] as that can go face if needed. However if there are healing synergies maybe this can make the cut as a faster way to trigger them.
New Neutral Minion - Varian, King of Stormwind
Requires some build around, but still very nice. Expensive, so there's more risk of having drawn your cards already, so you may want to put 3-4 of each. Not a lot of Divine Shield options outside of Paladin though.
New Warlock Minion - Anetheron
Kind of disappointed that it's 8/6 rather than a 8/8, but the real thing that holds him back is that he's a Legendary and not a Epic, so you only have one copy in the deck. Still going to be a solid inclusion in Control Warlock decks.
New Neutral Minion - Two-Faced Investor
That card made me laugh. I love it.
New Rogue Weapon - Counterfeit Blade
Nothing too crazy in the deathrattle pool currently but summoning an extra minion or drawing a card on play isn't bad. Could be interesting. Currently looking at using Infiltrator Lilian for fun and for that scream!
Finfested Waters - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
I already posted Holyfin Crusader, but I droped the Divine Shield on the main body as Hordaki suggested bc it seemed a bit too strong.
Anyways, more feedback:
About your cards, I think Glacier Crystalfin is my favorite, but both the artwork and the effect scream Shaman to me. You could even put it in Knights of the Frozen Throne, since that expansion featured both Freeze and Murloc synergy for Shaman.
On the one hand, it is very good on Lightfang builds, because it allows you to spend gold without needing a free slot, which is something these builds tend to struggle with.
On the other hand, it's completely unplayable in most Murloc builds, because it doesn't allow you to use their Battlecries, which is the build strenght.
All in all, I'd say Tavern Three is more appropriate, but it's really hard to tell.
Gillidari Avenger is also neat, but it would need more support than it currently has, so maybe some people punish that a little bit.
The other two cards have neat effect (especially Tinyfin, the Unkillable, although the artwork is too blurry), but I don't see the need for them to be Murlocs.
New Warlock Spell - Dark Alley Pact
Hah, it's a pun! It's a Pact made in a Dark Alley with a Dark Ally!
Oh yeah, it's a solid card for control warlock decks.
New Warlock Spell - Dark Alley Pact
Just about a Mountain Giant, good with Tamsin Roame this card will fit nicely into current Warlock decks.
New Legendary Warlock Card Revealed for United in Stormwind by Blizzard & Friends - Anetheron
Zilliax was flashy and amazing, Aya was a lot more interesting than this card and Lilian sees no play.
New Warlock Minion - Anetheron
Not to hard to get out early and decent res target for things like Kanrethad Prime.
Not flashy but definitely still good.
New Shaman Minion - Bolner Hammerbeak
Love this card. I am sure you can do something broken with it. I'm not sure what but I know it will be fun!
Finfested Waters - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread