I, too, am a slugfest enjoyer. I'm not looking for all games to last at least 15 minutes, but just enough to feel like I've used most of the cards in my deck and they all had a bit of weight to them (so, not drawing half my deck by turn 7). It's the same jarring feeling you get in Warcraft III when you move from the campaign to some 1v1 multiplayer: Instead of having a bit of time to get your base set up, 2 minutes in you've already got some damn enemy Ghoul hounding on your peasants!
Boost the health and then team5 has to now design cards around it and inevitably the same result will come off.
Renathal was the first true exception whereby additional health are granted on an optional basis and we already seen the effects of renathal in the game. Suddenly aggro decks can sustain entire matches without ever running out of stuff, burn damage got increasingly more insane and in some cases near infinite, and certain classes go far into greeding their entire deck. Burn mage can virtually destroy any 30 health deck without a whimper, but struggle against a 40 health control deck.
To me, there's just no reason to ever buff the starting health of any class because inevitably team5 would design around it. If they needed a class to last longer in the game, all they got to do is to print better sustain cards for them. We've seen it with priest already. The class went from being a laughing stock for having less than healing than paladin, to the point that you sometimes genuinely needed 60 damage in total to kill them.
Also, the additional health means certain classes pretty much gets pigeonholed into one archetype or another. How is it fair for shaman to play aggro with 40 health against the same archetype in hunter who has 10 less health? If we print more powerful aggro tools for hunter to compensate, then what happens when they face a more controlling or greedy dhunter? Its just not ideal whichever way we do it.
In my opinion, the hero health in hearthstone hearthstone is perfect. No need to tweak what isnt broken.
"Renathal is an experiment, to see if they should raise everyone to 40!" - Some people when Nathria dropped. Then it was nerfed, and we never heard from them again lol.
For what it's worth, my absolute favorite Hearthstone games are slugfests. I want to play the ultimate duel, where both players are going back-and-forth on the board and their life totals are rubber-banding as they give everything they got. Fatigue, value wars, lethals out of nowhere; whatever it takes to get the win.
If I have the time to play one, obviously...which is the crux of the issue. People need to be able to get through a match on the bus or whatever, and thus Blizzard tends to cater to the "I won before we ever got close to 10 Mana" crowd. I get it (though if you truly want fast games, go play Marvel Snap lol).
Doesn't matter if it's good or not, if you're playing Excavate you're playing as much Excavate as you can. I mean, look at Praise Galakrond!. That actually saw play.
If heroes start getting more health then aggro and midrange decks will need more powercreep to stay relevant. It's either that or this game becomes combostone or a slugfest. None of those options seem healthy.
That... actually looks great! As long as the 'Enter' key functionality, to use items remains working, it looks like a net positive improvement over's the game's extremely clunky wheels.
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If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
This card has definite potential, although it needs a good target to be playable. Comparing it to Mortal Coil is fair, and that's a card that has seen a lot of play over the years.
Very reminiscent of Soulciologist Malicia, but probably more consistent. You'll always get the full board of rush minions, as long as you've excavated twice, as opposed to Malicia giving you a minion for each fragment in your deck. I think this card will be quite good.
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Should Hearthstone's Heroes Have More Than 30 Health?
I, too, am a slugfest enjoyer. I'm not looking for all games to last at least 15 minutes, but just enough to feel like I've used most of the cards in my deck and they all had a bit of weight to them (so, not drawing half my deck by turn 7). It's the same jarring feeling you get in Warcraft III when you move from the campaign to some 1v1 multiplayer: Instead of having a bit of time to get your base set up, 2 minutes in you've already got some damn enemy Ghoul hounding on your peasants!
Should Hearthstone's Heroes Have More Than 30 Health?
Do you want a tooltip, or deck slots? There's only so much space in the files to go around!
Should Hearthstone's Heroes Have More Than 30 Health?
A simple tooltip simply makes the game too complicated!
Should Hearthstone's Heroes Have More Than 30 Health?
Even now, the game could use a way of showing your opponent's max health.
Sure, it says 28 now, but is that 28/30, 28/35, or more?
Should Hearthstone's Heroes Have More Than 30 Health?
Boost the health and then team5 has to now design cards around it and inevitably the same result will come off.
Renathal was the first true exception whereby additional health are granted on an optional basis and we already seen the effects of renathal in the game. Suddenly aggro decks can sustain entire matches without ever running out of stuff, burn damage got increasingly more insane and in some cases near infinite, and certain classes go far into greeding their entire deck. Burn mage can virtually destroy any 30 health deck without a whimper, but struggle against a 40 health control deck.
To me, there's just no reason to ever buff the starting health of any class because inevitably team5 would design around it. If they needed a class to last longer in the game, all they got to do is to print better sustain cards for them. We've seen it with priest already. The class went from being a laughing stock for having less than healing than paladin, to the point that you sometimes genuinely needed 60 damage in total to kill them.
Also, the additional health means certain classes pretty much gets pigeonholed into one archetype or another. How is it fair for shaman to play aggro with 40 health against the same archetype in hunter who has 10 less health? If we print more powerful aggro tools for hunter to compensate, then what happens when they face a more controlling or greedy dhunter? Its just not ideal whichever way we do it.
In my opinion, the hero health in hearthstone hearthstone is perfect. No need to tweak what isnt broken.
Should Hearthstone's Heroes Have More Than 30 Health?
"Renathal is an experiment, to see if they should raise everyone to 40!" - Some people when Nathria dropped. Then it was nerfed, and we never heard from them again lol.
For what it's worth, my absolute favorite Hearthstone games are slugfests. I want to play the ultimate duel, where both players are going back-and-forth on the board and their life totals are rubber-banding as they give everything they got. Fatigue, value wars, lethals out of nowhere; whatever it takes to get the win.
If I have the time to play one, obviously...which is the crux of the issue. People need to be able to get through a match on the bus or whatever, and thus Blizzard tends to cater to the "I won before we ever got close to 10 Mana" crowd. I get it (though if you truly want fast games, go play Marvel Snap lol).
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Doesn't matter if it's good or not, if you're playing Excavate you're playing as much Excavate as you can. I mean, look at Praise Galakrond!. That actually saw play.
Should Hearthstone's Heroes Have More Than 30 Health?
If heroes start getting more health then aggro and midrange decks will need more powercreep to stay relevant. It's either that or this game becomes combostone or a slugfest. None of those options seem healthy.
Inventory Systems in Games - The Platform Nightmare
That... actually looks great! As long as the 'Enter' key functionality, to use items remains working, it looks like a net positive improvement over's the game's extremely clunky wheels.
New Warlock Minion - Waste Remover
A new Common Warlock Minion, Waste Remover, has been revealed!
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New Warlock Minion - Sludge on Wheels
A new Rare Warlock Minion, Sludge on Wheels, has been revealed!
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New Warlock Minion - Pop'gar the Putrid
A new Legendary Warlock Minion, Pop'gar the Putrid, has been revealed!
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New Warlock Spell - Furnace Fuel
A new Common Warlock Spell, Furnace Fuel, has been revealed!
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New Warlock Spell - Fracking
A new Rare Warlock Spell, Fracking, has been revealed!
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New Warlock Minion - Disposal Assistant
A new Common Warlock Minion, Disposal Assistant, has been revealed!
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Inventory Systems in Games - The Platform Nightmare
It always bothered me how the selection wheel worked in undying and I recently made it more mouse friendly. I would love your thoughts on this update.
New Warlock Spell - Smokestack
This card has definite potential, although it needs a good target to be playable. Comparing it to Mortal Coil is fair, and that's a card that has seen a lot of play over the years.
New Warlock Minion - Mo'arg Drillfist
Very strong card. Good stats on a taunt, with a great deathrattle (since Excavate looks quite good). Plus, multiple minion type synergies available.
New Warlock Minion - Tram Conductor Gerry
Very reminiscent of Soulciologist Malicia, but probably more consistent. You'll always get the full board of rush minions, as long as you've excavated twice, as opposed to Malicia giving you a minion for each fragment in your deck. I think this card will be quite good.
New Warlock Minion - Tram Conductor Gerry
A new Legendary Warlock Minion, Tram Conductor Gerry, has been revealed!
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New Warlock Spell - Smokestack
A new Epic Warlock Spell, Smokestack, has been revealed!
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New Warlock Minion - Mo'arg Drillfist
A new Rare Warlock Minion, Mo'arg Drillfist, has been revealed!
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