That deck seems to be everywhere on ladder in wild right now. It’ll pass, and if it doesn’t, they’ll probably nerf something.
For my part, having a freezing trap down as hunter seemed to be very effective. When that sends the tiller back to hand there were a lot of concedes across from me yesterday.
Funny outcome, but honestly the problem isn't wretched tiller OR hysteria. It's that damn 2/4 that grants immune. Most degenerate decks I can recall (defile+immune combo) in wild were a result of that card that grants a minion immune.
Well, if you've got the bundle then why not try Envoy Rustwix in place of tickatus. The only reason why you'd run Tickatus is to win the long game, and since rustwix gives tons of value it might be a decent replacement.
Unfortunately that would also mean you're essentially playing at a disadvantage in the mirror match.
That deck seems to be everywhere on ladder in wild right now. It’ll pass, and if it doesn’t, they’ll probably nerf something.
For my part, having a freezing trap down as hunter seemed to be very effective. When that sends the tiller back to hand there were a lot of concedes across from me yesterday.
Just change Hysteria that it only can be cast on enemy minions.
No. The combo (in wild) also includes Shrinkmeister to change the tiller's attack to 0 so it attacks infinitely without killing anything. The problem here is clearly the immunity mechanic!
I have collected a handful of Wild lists but... I don't know if posting them is really worth it since the format really looks like a dumpster fire and people do not seem to enjoy it...
I would say no, Tickatus just makes games easier but the main strategy of the deck is still control and burning your opponent out of resources, you'll just have to rely on other cards like C'Thun or Y'Shaarj
The deck is definitely powerful. I have had an abysmal win rate this past season, but so far I have a 100% winrate with this deck. It is probably the most consistent OTK I have ever seen needing only 3 cards and 7 mana. It may be even more consistent then the old Star Aligner Druid.
They will probably either nerf Wretched Tiller to change the trigger or effect slightly so that he doesn't deal 2 damage to the enemy hero on every attack. Or they will change Hysteria to only attack a set number of times.
Hysteria seems like the cleanest and easiest change, but they may change the Tiller just to keep the new cards unchanged.
As someone who doesn't watch streamers could you elaborate?
If you disconnect you skip the combat (the animations) and have more time for your turn. So they have a shortcut which enables and disables a firewall.
Ah alright, that does seem a bit cheaty then but I guess if Blizz hasn't said anything about it it's cool. Although if everyone breaks windows that doesn't mean breaking windows is legal.
None of the involved cards are a problem. The problem is the code. If the minion with Hysteria has attacked all other minions and is still alive it should stop even there are still some minions left. It's coded that one minion is picked before every attack rather then putting all minions on board into a queue in random order. So the exit condition is currently (Hysteria minion is dead or no minion on board). It should be (queue is emoty) imho.
That's not a coding issue, since that's exactly what the card says it will do: keep attacking until it dies. However, changing Hysteria to work like Deathwing, Mad Aspect so it attacks everything once (unless it dies midway) would be an elegant solution without upsetting anyone since that's what we would have all expected it to do to begin with.
Is there a reliable way to beat those OTK hysteria warlock/priest? (Or maybe just aggro them down, since i mostly play slower deck).
Best bet is aggro. I played this a bunch yesterday and only lost to Secret Mage and Odd Demon Hunter (and one mirror). Because the combo only requires 7 mana and 3 pieces (and no legendaries, so you can run 2 of each), it's frighteningly consistent. Both Mage and Hunter secrets are great at disrupting it.
As someone who doesn't watch streamers could you elaborate?
If you disconnect you skip the combat (the animations) and have more time for your turn. So they have a shortcut which enables and disables a firewall.
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It’s a pretty common term here on the site. I thought it was Coldlight being an Arcane Intellect on a stick, didn’t play enough to know Leeroy was even called that!
as for the third one, the trap got me stuck on literal Hunter Traps (especially because of the “caught with a snap” imagery, so I thought Freezing Trap. Did get the Cloud Prince part though, but I wanted to see if I could solve it before giving a hint solution to the others lul
And this creates a new OTK in wild. Play the 1/1 that does 2 damage to the opponent when it attacks, give it immune for the turn , and then play this on it. As long as there’s 15 health of other minion stats on the board, it will do 30 to the opponent.
None of the involved cards are a problem. The problem is the code. If the minion with Hysteria has attacked all other minions and is still alive it should stop even there are still some minions left. It's coded that one minion is picked before every attack rather then putting all minions on board into a queue in random order. So the exit condition is currently (Hysteria minion is dead or no minion on board). It should be (queue is emoty) imho.
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I think you mean Siamat gives you a pro-active play versus Nether. That's the only difference.
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Funny outcome, but honestly the problem isn't wretched tiller OR hysteria. It's that damn 2/4 that grants immune. Most degenerate decks I can recall (defile+immune combo) in wild were a result of that card that grants a minion immune.
isn't it cheating, when big streamers always disconnect on purpose in bgs?
you're right of course. but i have whitnessed this now on multiple big streamers, hence the title.
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Well, if you've got the bundle then why not try Envoy Rustwix in place of tickatus. The only reason why you'd run Tickatus is to win the long game, and since rustwix gives tons of value it might be a decent replacement.
Unfortunately that would also mean you're essentially playing at a disadvantage in the mirror match.
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That deck seems to be everywhere on ladder in wild right now. It’ll pass, and if it doesn’t, they’ll probably nerf something.
For my part, having a freezing trap down as hunter seemed to be very effective. When that sends the tiller back to hand there were a lot of concedes across from me yesterday.
Deathspeaker + Tiller + Hysteria Combo...
No. The combo (in wild) also includes Shrinkmeister to change the tiller's attack to 0 so it attacks infinitely without killing anything. The problem here is clearly the immunity mechanic!
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I have collected a handful of Wild lists but... I don't know if posting them is really worth it since the format really looks like a dumpster fire and people do not seem to enjoy it...
Deathspeaker + Tiller + Hysteria Combo...
Just change Hysteria that it only can be cast on enemy minions.
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I still didnt get it, even after multiple restarts.
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I would say no, Tickatus just makes games easier but the main strategy of the deck is still control and burning your opponent out of resources, you'll just have to rely on other cards like C'Thun or Y'Shaarj
Deathspeaker + Tiller + Hysteria Combo...
The deck is definitely powerful. I have had an abysmal win rate this past season, but so far I have a 100% winrate with this deck. It is probably the most consistent OTK I have ever seen needing only 3 cards and 7 mana. It may be even more consistent then the old Star Aligner Druid.
They will probably either nerf Wretched Tiller to change the trigger or effect slightly so that he doesn't deal 2 damage to the enemy hero on every attack. Or they will change Hysteria to only attack a set number of times.
Hysteria seems like the cleanest and easiest change, but they may change the Tiller just to keep the new cards unchanged.
isn't it cheating, when big streamers always disconnect on purpose in bgs?
Ah alright, that does seem a bit cheaty then but I guess if Blizz hasn't said anything about it it's cool. Although if everyone breaks windows that doesn't mean breaking windows is legal.
Deathspeaker + Tiller + Hysteria Combo...
That's not a coding issue, since that's exactly what the card says it will do: keep attacking until it dies. However, changing Hysteria to work like Deathwing, Mad Aspect so it attacks everything once (unless it dies midway) would be an elegant solution without upsetting anyone since that's what we would have all expected it to do to begin with.
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Best bet is aggro. I played this a bunch yesterday and only lost to Secret Mage and Odd Demon Hunter (and one mirror). Because the combo only requires 7 mana and 3 pieces (and no legendaries, so you can run 2 of each), it's frighteningly consistent. Both Mage and Hunter secrets are great at disrupting it.
isn't it cheating, when big streamers always disconnect on purpose in bgs?
If you disconnect you skip the combat (the animations) and have more time for your turn. So they have a shortcut which enables and disables a firewall.
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It’s a pretty common term here on the site. I thought it was Coldlight being an Arcane Intellect on a stick, didn’t play enough to know Leeroy was even called that!
as for the third one, the trap got me stuck on literal Hunter Traps (especially because of the “caught with a snap” imagery, so I thought Freezing Trap. Did get the Cloud Prince part though, but I wanted to see if I could solve it before giving a hint solution to the others lul
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guys, tickatus is core on the lock deck? I'm missing him and don't want to craft right now, can I play without him with no high impact on my games?
Hysteria
And this creates a new OTK in wild. Play the 1/1 that does 2 damage to the opponent when it attacks, give it immune for the turn , and then play this on it. As long as there’s 15 health of other minion stats on the board, it will do 30 to the opponent.
isn't it cheating, when big streamers always disconnect on purpose in bgs?
What if small streamers or non-streamers do it? Is it still cheating?
Deathspeaker + Tiller + Hysteria Combo...
None of the involved cards are a problem. The problem is the code. If the minion with Hysteria has attacked all other minions and is still alive it should stop even there are still some minions left. It's coded that one minion is picked before every attack rather then putting all minions on board into a queue in random order. So the exit condition is currently (Hysteria minion is dead or no minion on board). It should be (queue is emoty) imho.
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And in wild... well we have Wretched Tiller
isn't it cheating, when big streamers always disconnect on purpose in bgs?
As someone who doesn't watch streamers could you elaborate?
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Aggro them down with kingsbane/secret mage, out armor them with druid shenanigans, or play combo hate (rat/illucia).
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I'm going to try Rally! in murloc paladin. Won't get the battle cries, but it should help get back on the board after a clear.