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I promise I won't be mad if zoo or poro tribal becomes meta

I won't be mad if the new champions you released end up doing new champ things

I am mad that a random 4 mana common spell has defined an entire format

that I'm mad about

and I won't ever stop being mad about it till it gets fixed

just like 500 other people

So I think if you do all that

hard buff the 3 champs

hard nerf siren song and xolati

if you do that this set will be sucessful

as it stands it's a fucking train wreck

and 500 people agree even if they can't articulate their thoughts correctly

but I can

I feel that way about Nidalle and Poro king

I think they are awesome well designed cards in a game that is progressively less awesome and well designed

let's release diana a 2 mana champ that can challenge things with quick attack

that's really powerful though so lets straddle her with a nightfall condition

later on hey lets release samara she does everything that diana does but better in bilge water

and people are like wow Samara is the new standard for champ design

noooooooooo

Yes I got to masters with her because she straddles that line between busted and not busted (closer to the sweaty end)

but she is not "well designed" 

she is not interesting

she is not well themed

she is just the new elise

aka the biggest best value 2 mana champion that is essentially free

so I would much rather see Riot pull back on the power creep with the siren songs the 1 mana 10.10s the 7 mana 32/32s 

pull back on all that shit with the next patch

and buff the themed champs released for this set

make nidallee summon javelin on level up

lux does it for lazer and lux is waaaaay better and she was vanilla

Give poro king tough, he's the king hes supposed to be tough, it will make him slightly less snap removable

for bird lady, she just needs more variety cards I don't actually think she's bad maybe a little too strict on her level up

but her flip stats are nuts and her effect is nuts.

so maybe just level her with 5 swings instead of 6?

demanding that a champ go 6 wide to level is a tough pill to swallow

and while youre at it make poro king easier to level

nidalle levels easily but she just doesn't dooooo anything

I'm willing to acknowledge that Riot gutted their card game studio

so the smart people who crafted the initial bilgewater expansion are probably all gone by now

but I'm fairly certain if any of them were left

they would say

ummm guys can we not encourage people to spam 1 drops with a global deck wide buff

We want people to play gangplank he was just released and he's cool

we want our champs to be good

not random 1 drops

k thanks scrap that card

Like for god sakes poro king is a 5 mana 4/4 from Riot

a 5 mana 4/4 naked

no keywords

and all he does is make poro treats

that are more efficient to main deck

hahahahaahahaha

and they release that at the same time as a 4 mana deck wide buffer that also summons an additional buff body with keyword at the same time?

do you have any idea how good that is?

how do you even evaluate that fairly?

like okay so on average a 4 mana card represents a 10/10 buff across one game 20/20 if played twice?

then you get the immediate effect of additional stats and keywords on the next body

then theres a 7 mana card that eats all those buffs and goes from a 2/2 to a 32/32?

and poro king is a 5 mana 4/4?

balance!!!!!

So if we are all done being smart asses

can we acknowledge that 500 people think that siren song is busted

and that xolati is busted

can we acknowledge that the 500 people might know better than 1 Majin Bae?

can we acknowledge that?

can we do the human thing, the democratic thing, and understand that math is math

that trump wasn't voted president because you feel that way

he wasn't voted president because he didn't get the god damn votes

so yes siren song Xolati is objectively broken

as in the developers gone fucked up

and 500 people agree

so stop being a smart ass and start begging riot for a fix

yeah so that was a 9/8 by mana 8

that was literally on par for the curve

I know what youre trying to do and youre wrong

viego is not bigger than sirens song decks

and I'll let you open swing into my nexus all day long

cuz I still don't care about your point

because it's invalid

stop being an idiot an 8 mana 9/8 is not bigger than a 7 mana 32/32 it is not bigger than a 1 mana 10/10

if it was people would fucking play viego and they dont!

want to know why?

cuz he's bad!!!!!!!!!!!

like don't get me wrong I'm no stranger to bad

I'm stuck here trying to make Riot's 3 new champions work

but bad is bad sorry

Just ban the Amulet itself.

But honestly give people a dust refund on xolati if you have to

certain decks can still run him as the meme he's supposed to be

sandmen xolati for example

he's meant to be a niche card

not the biggest creature in the entire game bar none

he literally upsets the stat distribution curve of every other card in the entire game

for as long as siren song interacts with him the way it does

buff deck by 1+1, summon a buffed creature, summon more buffed creatures for cheap, swing with creatures

boom 7 mana 32/32 and its hella fast

faster than anything else in the game

that 1 mana 10/10 and 7 mana 32/32 makes ramp look like a fucking joke

asol who's that? dragon of the universe or something?

nope that random 7 mana darken card is exodia the obliterator

he is the king of LOR

the destroyer of worlds

thanos snap

It isn't lore appropriate, it isn't gameplay appropriate, and it isn't fun most of all

so yeah 500 upvotes riot hotfix your damn game

https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/14ulav1/my_changes_to_siren_song/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

To be fair these ideas are awful

The siren song fix is literally very simple

1 make it 5 mana

2 make it so it doesn't buff xolani

People will say oh no that will slow xolani down significantly

but my response is when did Xolani become the number 1 finisher in every deck ever?

1 drop aggro deck xolani

midrange evelyn deck xolani

bilgewater poro deck? If it could fit xolani and siren song it would trust me

So maybe we just don't let xolani turbo off a card that buffs 1 mana units under the established mana curve?

crazy thought

maybe the game isn't supposed to have 1 mana 10/10s or 7 mana 32/32?

seems kinda unbalanced and borderline broken

maybe we don't do that at all?

maybe we see champ based decks see a massive resurgance in popularity?

maybe the 3 new champs released with this set actually matter?

crazy right?

My heart wishes that they are going to add this feature for certain merc abilties too, but my mind says that it won't happen.

Well, they changed that, now it feels too fast. Now the Conquest is the competitive mode, not Ranked. And that is now what consumes your time. Basically, there are now two modes with the rewards, with the new one being a time consuming.

It doesnt strike me as a coincidence

That the two number 1 decks in lor basically don't care about their Champs

Standard 

Spam 1 drops, buff 1 drops, win game

Eternal

Spam spells, play free 6/6s win game

What I'm not seeing is I do x to level champ so my champion can win me the game 

So yes every new Champ that gets released will be less relavent and worse than the last

As long as these common spell cards end up out performing everything else in the game

1 siren song

1 pie toss 

These things are worth 10 chanpions

Remember when gangplank sejuani was like the strongest deck in the game

Omg gangplank can summon barrels and aoe your whole board

Thats soooooo broken

Now we have 1 mana 9/9s

And people complain the champ design is bad ever since akshan

Bitch you see anyone play akshan except me?

Where's the poro king where's the nidalle where's the Viktor where's the Riven

The reality is that decks in lor are bad right now

Garbage is good

So once we see garbage decks get nerfed maybe Champs can actually be worth playing again

Psssst there was a deck once

Where you would play Riven and then you'd lay fizz

It was actually a cool deck

Where you had to run 1 champ to synergies with the other.long before thr days of 

Durrr 4 mana spell make fizz big

You actually level Riven to make fizz big

Yep the game was fun then

We used to complain that high synergy champ decks were too toxic

Those were the days

Now we get to complain that literally no deck makes sense

And everything is filled with fuck

Which did you prefer?

Loooool 

What does that have to do with Riven

You moron

Hahahahahahahaha

Ummm ummm

Idk I'm just gonna jamm 1 drops and hope for thr best

Where's NY heroin

Hook it to my veins

Take me away from this life

Brain brain go away

Yeah you can do sundisc

Cuz sundisc is solitaire

But everything else you struggle with dont you?

It's almost funny

Like you played a karma and you were just like fuiuuuuuck

What do I do with her

Why am I paying 6 mana for a 4/3 that doesn't do anything 

Omg where's my solitaire at

Ahhhhhh

You are so fucking scared aren't you

You couldn't just run 1 copy of twin disciplines to keep karma alive

Noooooooo

Thats to much like a deck

Gotta turbo a wincon

Gotta sett

Gotta draw draw draw 

Dig dig dig

How did that work for you?

I liked watching my akshan flip

He enjoyed it

Good fun all around

Loooool

Why are you so scared to play tahm

I'm a poro deck

That means freijord poro

I literally can't do anything to tahm

And youre so god damn scared to play the game

You can't even level him?

In a poro deck?!

Play the fucking game Jesus

Maybe then all of these decks will have a plus 50% win rate after siren song nerf

Like eat the 3 little poros with your tahm, play the 4 mana burst card onto your tahm to make him big

Flip landmark win game

It's not hard

You keep just waiting and waiting

I'm in freijord poro

How stupid are you

Am I gonna randomly burried in ice you

In a poro deck?

Stop being stupid play thr game

Level your champ

Do your synergy

Make these decks good again by playing properly

Then you won't need a 1 mana 9/9 with spellshield to win

You see that deck that one right there

What if instead of playing 1 peddler

And trying harding 40 puffcaps into my deck

And then conceding

Here's a crazy idea

And I know it's a weird one

There's this champion called catltn

She levels based on traps in deck

And does dmg based on traps triggered

And she has a gun and a cool level up animation

You could play here and level her and she can do her cool gun stuff

I know I'm just talking out of my ass here

But maybe you don't just take that 1 creature and turbo as hard as you can

Maybe you play the game?

Idk try it see if you like it

And then maybe they will nerf Siren song because turboing non champ wincons is fucking boring

And stupid

And the opposite of what lor does

So I' gonna tell you exactly what gonna happen

Riot is gonna nerf Siren song and xoalti into the fucking dirt

Cuz all of reddit is tired of pro players dictated the balance of LOR and running it into the fucking ground

And then every single bilgewater siren song deck will instantly drop 6% winrate

And then every other real deck with Champs and leveling and synergies 

They get to be played again

And everyone lived happily ever after

And your siren song abuser decks can eat fucking dirt

Because only weak minded idiots abuse obvious developer mistakes 

But you take a deck that actually requires a modicum of skill

And boom 32%

New Champs are bad Riot waaaaah

Why can't I play a 1 mana card with 9 health and spell shield Riot?

Thats balanced right Riot?

Yeah gj

Yeah no we established the abusing of broken mechanics 

Well done

You played a 4 mana card

Then you played 1 drops

How did you do it?

My mind is blown

Moron

What happens to your deck after hot fix

It evaporates

Well done

You played a fizz

And that was big

We can call it siren song big fizz

And then we can run xolati at the end

Woioooooooooow

Wow

Just wow

Wo

W

No words

I can build your shen deck for you

Pssssst it runs shen cards

Does shen things

Nuts eh?