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  • Depth Charge

    it's a good alternative against aggro, i like it

  • Tentacled Menace

    Oh look now my opponent can use his combo card more effectively

  • Quest Trading - Play A Friend!

    Battletag: laysson#2401

    Region: EU

    Trade Only?: Yes, you go first.

  • Stowaway

    it's a new mechanic so it could be good we need to test, but even if it draw 1 card it's good already

  • Cumulo-Maximus

    you guys are too way ahead of me, maybe that's why i never pass rank 15

  • New Card Reveal - Tentacled Menace

    Cool and funny effect but rather unreliable.

    It could be used in a heavy deck like Big Paladin, but it would screw up both Duel! and Blatant Decoy, so I don't think the pros are higher than the cons, which is a shame.

    Judging for the art, I really hoped this was a Priest epic/legendary (together with Murozond), but... heh...

    2/5 fun but not competitive

  • New Card Reveal - Tentacled Menace

    I think this would be playable if the battle cry had no downside : - "Both players draw a card if yours is dearer swap their costs"

  • Tentacled Menace

    Nice one for handlock I guess.

  • Legendary Card Reveal - Frizz Kindleroost

    I don't honestly think Dragon decks are going to run that many dragons in the first place, even discounting memey 29 Dragons and one Frizz Kindleroost decks. Maybe Dragon decks aren't even really a thing, and they're more like Galakrond decks that HAPPEN to run Dragons, because the Invoke cards just so happen to be Dragons.

    Most dragons are going to be big. So you need to draw this, and then you need to draw a big Dragon soon enough for the -2 cost to actually matter (and shaving 2 cost off an Alex if you draw her past turn 10 really isn't that big of a deal, for instance) and if you don't get your payoff, you're running a 4 mana 5/4, which really isn't something you want to run in a deck that wants to play a lot of big dragons...


    The dream where you draw and play this on curve and nuke everything on Tempo is certainly fun, but it's just that, a dream... I just can't see any world where this whole gameplan actually works out. People will try it for sure, but mark my words, I think it's going to fall out of favor VERY quickly in Dragon decks, if Dragon decks are even a thing.

    I still think I'd place pretty good money on there just being Galakrond decks that just happen to run dragons that end up being viable. I've been around the block long enough to know how this works.

    But I've also been around the block long enough to know that you never know, no matter how much you might think you know.

  • Shaman Legendary Card Reveal - Bandersmosh

    Hm. Lot of back-and-forth in these comments.

    My take: it's bad. It's a dead draw on the turn you draw it, and it stands a good chance of being effectively dead (by being vanilla 5/5 or worse) on each subsequent turn. There is a chance it becomes something good on any given turn, but not only do you have to get that roll to pass, you also need to be in a position on that same turn to spend 5 mana on it. And at the end of the day, the only reliable thing you're getting from this card, if you're getting anything reliably at all, is value - you can't rely on it shifting to a good legendary for tempo (like Tirion, since in this case it'd be a 5/5 Tirion earlier than you'd usually play him), you can't rely on it shifting for board clear (because what is even left at this point). Value is the second most likely outcome after vanilla*, and if you want value, there are plenty of other cards that provide it reliably.

     

    *Note - didn't actually go through the legendary list and check this, probably should really. Will make a note to do it later.

  • Card Reveals - Cumulo-Maximus & Zzeraku the Warped

    Quote From PopeNeia

    Ouch... you would think one wrong name would lead to 3 downvotes haha. But yeah, if the card is as strong as we predict it is, and control is able to push out aggro decks, people can CUT the Sandstorm Elementals to run it and tutor it so we can deal with control decks. Did you think of that?

    Assuming you're kidding due to the last sentence, but to be clear - N'zoth shenanigans notwithstanding, control isn't the side Quest Shaman needs to worry about. You're never going to drop the best anti-aggro card in the deck to add more cards that have a major risk of drawing dead. See my comment further up on why this card isn't good enough for a slot anyway

  • New Neutral Minion - Tentacled Menace

    I really don't see what deck wants Tentacled Menace. The vanilla statline helps it a bit, but the effect is really weird. I guess in a "Big" deck like Big Paladin you could use this to try and swap costs, but it's typically the case that "Big" archetypes still have to include lots of cheap removal tools cards, and Tentacled Menace really wants your mana curve to be bad/unplayable to make this work consistently.

    Maybe Big Warrior can get value out of this, because where other classes have cheap ways to get big stuff out (Paladin has Duel!, Druid has ramp, etc.) Warrior's "Big" payoffs are expensive (e.g. Dimensional Ripper, The Boom Reaver, and The Boomship).

  • Tentacled Menace

    Pretty weak. 1/5, not gonna see play

  • Depth Charge

    yeah, this card will only be good for heavy combo-dependent decks

  • New Neutral Minion - Depth Charge

    The comparison to Doomsayer is certainly apt - Depth Charge is a nice AOE that goes off on the start of your turn, and kills your opponents minions assuming this comes down early in the game. Clearly this is a great neutral anti-aggro tool.

    The tough thing about this is that it's way worse than Doomsayer in the mid to late game, when your opponent may have big enough minions to survive this. I think whether or not it sees play over (or in addition to) Doomsayer is going to be determined entirely by how aggressive the metagame is.

  • Tentacled Menace

    draw a giant and make your opponent draw a useless card

  • New Card Reveal - Tentacled Menace

    I would imagine, it draws 2 and every cost gets switched once. 

    —> Draw - Swap - draw - swap

    As opposed to:

    Draw - Swap swap - draw - swap swap. 

    No reason to quadruple the swap

  • New Neutral Minion - Tentacled Menace

    Must... not... make... a joke... about... hentai.

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    It might be a filler, but it's an interesting one. I've never said no to cards with interesting effects.

  • New Card Reveal - Tentacled Menace

    Good if your deck is full of high cost cards. You have a good chance of pulling something big and getting a discount on it. If the card drawn by the opponent is high cost as well then you more or less break even. This becomes more consistent against aggro decks because those decks only run cheap cards. You get a huge discount and one of their cards become too expensive for them at the same time. Highlander Mage could make good use of this and big decks could also benefit from it. 

  • New Neutral Minion - Tentacled Menace

    Quote From RavenSunHS

    Nasty anti-Aggro tool.

    But probably only some Midrange decks will actually use it. 

    Let's say you play priest you run sw pain or forbidden words right? You play this card, you draw forbidden words, they draw leeroy.. 

    Yep perfect anti aggro tool. 

     

  • New Neutral Minion - Tentacled Menace

    I'll try one in my wild Shudderwock deck to take advantage of faster decks, and potentially disrupt combo decks. However, I don't see this as a strong turn 5 play against aggro.

  • New Neutral Minion - Tentacled Menace

    Meme card. Yes it has some anti-aggro potential but too highroll-y. You need a lot of luck for this to work.

  • New Neutral Minion - Tentacled Menace

    Guess we're not gonna spend a lot of dust on neutral epics

  • New Neutral Minion - Depth Charge

    it's just not as good as Doomsayer.

    The main thing is that Doomsayer is more useful later on, when you play him after a boardclear to set up an empty board for the next turn. This however only deals 5 damage, which some decks can still play into.

    Not to mention this is much hard to just play as is later on against aggro decks, because dealing 5 damage is usually easier for them.

    It does have some use in Mage though, as an extra Doomsayer for a Freeze combo.

  • New Neutral Minion - Tentacled Menace

    Could be of some use in a Big minions deck, specially if your opponent is aggro...