Competition Theme: One Last Turn

Proper planning leads to perfect placements - make sure your card has all the set-up it needs!

• You must create a card that has an effect based on something you did the previous turn
  • Think of cards like Krag'wa, the Frog or Scorch if you're struggling to see where to take this one!

FooBars is one step ahead of you all, so you'd better make some cards that require planning a turn ahead to win!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Sep 5 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Sep 10 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Sep 10 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Sep 11 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Sep 11 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Sep 12 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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Quote From MrRhapsody

I'm at the worst mental state of my life, my creativity is gone, my passion is gone, my will is gone, and they won't come back any time soon, the whole deal of this custom expansion making for me was about the self improvement that came with it, like making cards, logos, lore, etc, but if the only thing I feel like doing now is go to work and spend the rest of the day looking at the roof waiting for the end of it, then I don't  think there's a point to keep working on it, nothing I do feels fun or meningful anymore

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but my situation is critical and I must have full dedication to the treatment so I don't make something stupid.

I don't know the best words when it comes to this kind of situation, despite having lived it myself. When you reach that point where nothing seems to mean anything anymore and the most "productive" thing you can manage is just...surviving to the next day. I'm still trying to recover, even a full decade after I collapsed in a heap of darkness and loneliness. But I'm working on it, and that matters. Admit you need help, and seek it out: as far as I'm concerned there is no alternative waiting in the wings, so it's absolutely essential that you keep striving to make the only life you get a better one. For as long as it takes. Live, and fight your sorrow. We'll be here when you're ready to return; take all the time you need.

As for your project, I don't think I'm in a position to take it from you. I'm not making much progress on my own endeavors, including some IRL stuff: I don't want to get into the details, but I'm on the cusp of a pretty important life-changing decision and that needs my attention. I would be honored to work on it for you, but I can't give the expansion its due diligence right now :(

The flavor of the expansion is pretty cool, though, I must say. "Radioactive" could be a fun Keyword to experiment with.

One thing you can say about awakening is that it successfully shook up the play patterns and deck building requirements to such an extent I basically didn't know how to play or recognize LOR anymore.

And while I stand by the statement that some of the new additions are pretty strong as a dedicated control player, as in play and respond not just jam put card advantage till you win.

I didnt know what to do and I felt the new set was to blame, so let me share my findings on what works great if you don't want to play Ionia or Shurima, cuz I really don't:

1. 3 minimorphs feel pretty much required, Lee Sin, machine gun Aussie, Viego, all backed by 4 mana denys, so guess what burst removal can't be denied so run 3.

2. 1 mana equipment removal, I feel like silence and surpess and quietus are low key necessary as a 3 of no mater what.

3. Now you get to build the rest of your deck including pings, vengences/concerted strikes, draw, cycling creatures etc.

4. Synergy and turbo level pkg

5. Play slow play smart, generally speaking meta decks are just insane at tempo and infinite value, and turboing and just all sorts of crazy **** but once you recognize the new patters you're good here's a few examples

- snap kill monkey!

- only remove equipment that is providing additional value to the opponent appropriately judging this action takes a lot of games

- gently devalue open attack spam, this is huge for how I play control where you incentive a linear play style in the opponent that luls them into a false security that they are winning 3 dmg here or there, meanwhile they are essentially doing nothing while you for example burst level Lux or double darkness, or set up overwhelm swings etc.

- finally big take away in a 6 deny meta don't play ramp, don't play deep, these were strong picks last meta I really would not recommend right now, but lurk seems good.

So yeah back to big winstreaks in Plat one week after the expansion, my brews are doing well, but a lot of my old decks are unplayable now Awakening was a huge shift but overall a fun one, so good job Riot maybe hahaha.

Honestly, equipment cards need to go on the stack period full stop. 

It essentially 100% fixes the control into equipment matchup which is currently impossible.

Fisher girl goes down on 2, her equipment goes on the stack, you vile feast, her equipment now goes into hand.

On curve creature, equivalent on curve answer.

You play treasure of the sands on akshan, you respond with mystic he is not equipped yet so 1 mana burst only provides 1 life, so you can potentially ping again.

This is 100% the most likely fix for the mechanic to increase interactivity for re-active players without demanding everyone play Ionia.

So yes stackable equipment at slow speed but not counterable, this is how it should have been designed at the onset in a game about passing turn priority.

Its like if Undirs buffs literally just didn't show up on the stack, and were the equivalent of burst, he'd be the best champion in the game 

So Riot beyond the normal range of balance fixes this patch demands please make equipment intractable by treating it like a slow speed uncounterable spell.

https://youtu.be/QcoRqLCSXhA

Says it in the first sentence, new Champs bad (aka) the fun and central mechanic of your game.

New cards however are so strong they now cary entire archetypes, aka broken.

Majin Bae may not be as vocal as me about why this is problematic but even a blind man can see the light, even if he doesn't recognize where it comming from.

Aka why this is ******* awful for the game.

So this should really surprise no one but the highest winrate card post expansion isn't a champion like bard or Annie.

Its a 1 mana follower.

Simon wind is a 2 mana cycle on paper this balanced.

Zoe cycles at 2 mana right? 

Wrong she cycles at 4 because dog costs 2

So monkey is a better Zoe.

This is really bad, like really really bad.

Like we've seen cards like shadow assassin break the format and she costs 3 freaking mana.

Because when card advantage costs too little tempo, like say 1 mana, then 2 mana at burst over and over you essentially negate tempo loss with Dragonling and can just bounce and stun everything else.

Idk it's a head scratcher it's like if the 1 mana cycle in bilgewater could go infinite by design.

Like its not a question of if nerfed to 2 mana plus 2 mana to put under par with Zoe (buffed to a 2/1 to compensate) but when.

But like I just dont get it Riot like ask any card game player hey should we print an Infinite cycle at 1 mana at the equivalent of a common card, you would say plz God God plz God no.

You would say 2 mana plus 2 mana with the spell proc is fair plz maths oh God I'm having an aneurysm. So to sum up Riot less stupids more card counting plz go ask a blackjack player.

So similar to world waker when it first came out ladder is basically a complete mess.

Not sure if internal testing basically doesn't exist at Riot anymore.

But its getting a little tiring having to wait 3 months for a new set to get balanced just so I can climb to diamond.

Things like concurrent timelines, the infinite amount of Ionia running around, equipment decks everywhere, basically makes the game unplayable.

So here we go wake me up for the next major game fixing patch and I'll see you guys in diamond.

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Hello guys !

After a long time, I came back to MTG Arena (again) and even though I couldn't had time to write and staying around in the site because of my irl stuff, I was following here everyday for news and such.

Yesterday, I downloaded MTG:Arena again and wanted to check Outofcards' MTG:Arena Side and i was surprised when i saw the last thread which is 1 month's ago and comments surprised me more because the nearest is almost 2 years old and it is new expansion time for the game.

So I wondered it is about the site's support or the game itself. Is it the game that has the rough times or did just outofcards stop supporting it ?

Can someone light a candle for me ? :)

Why all the feels bad to play aggainst cards are from this region?

So I was playing against a Mage and they were playing Suspicious Alchemist + Smothering Starfish. Interestingly, I did not get the choice of picking a card, although Suspicious Alchemist's effect is supposedly a battlecry entirely.

Do you have any idea why Starfish should nullify the effect of Alchemist? Is it some kind of aura? Usually Battlecries should not be silenced when they affect cards or game interactions that are not board-based...

Forge is very good, again scaling without a great number of adequate answers is scary.

And much like attach you get your buffed piece of equipment back.

I feel bad for darkness you had 1 month again in the spotlight buddy oh well.

Grandma bunny was my first craft because memes, and truthfully her kit is kinda bad but she's kinda good. So feels like a runeterra champ minus the inflexible deck building restriction.

My first deck is a simple yordal tribal build with her and it seems good but not broken compared to how many forge and equipment decks well see day 1 and in the meta overall.

I just lost a game versus a priest, where I had stolen Xyrella, the Devout via Theotar, the Mad Duke. I had played Abyssal Wave earlier, and played Lady Darkvein which I triggered with a Defile, killing everything on the board, including the Shadow Manifestation.

Later, when my opponent had a big board, I played Xyrella and it only triggered the Shadowborn deathrattle, and left out the 2 Shadow Manifestation which should have cast 2 x Abyssal Wave and cleared the board and probably have won me the game, since it would have been my 7th and 8th curse that game.

Is it me reading that hero card wrong? It says every friendly minion this game, but perhaps the manifestations are counted as part of Lady Darkvein?

anyways, just a bit salty...

/chrisroed

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Let me start by saying I enjoy combos: it's super fun to assemble your pieces, fend off the enemy, then administer the coup de grace. I also think that combo disruption is important for the game.

I think Mutanus the Devourer is a perfect and well-balanced combo disruptor: he can only hit minions (he can do nothing about a Purified Shard already in hand, a game-winning Bloodlust, or any hero card you care to mention), he is expensive, and he chooses a random target. Using Mutanus to stop an enemy combo requires a lot of luck, a lot of mana, and some decent hand-reading. And perhaps best of all, he was part of a mini-set, making him easier to collect than most other legendaries.

I hate Theotar, the Mad Duke. He is inexpensive, allows you to choose a target, can steal ANY card (not just minions), and worst of all, he allows your enemy to use your win condition against you. 

I'll include my super salty story below here as a spoiler for anyone who cares to read it. Otherwise, feel free to respond to the opinions above. Agree? Disagree? Let's chat, friends.

Competition Theme: Cast On, Cast Off

It seems like an awful lot of effort to play all these cards. If only they could help out somehow...

• You must create a card which can play other cards
  • There's plenty of ways to go about this - at random (Servant of Yogg-Saron) or very specific (Lady in White); from hand (Felwalker), from deck (Nightshade Bud) or from the past (Tess Greymane). Maybe you'll find another different way!

Sothis is looking for some cards to be cast this week - so why not get the cards to do the casting?

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Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Aug 29 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Sep 3 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Sep 3 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Sep 4 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Sep 4 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Sep 5 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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Typically in these new sets I go card by card and try to weigh in on what's competitive for existing archetypes.

But the genius of Awakening is now every region gets to play like Hearthstone warrior if it wants to, or Flesh and Blood a more recent card game released that seems to cough cough provide a little inspiration.

Honestly all 3 new Champs Master Ip, Forge Master, and Weapon Master all look exceptionally viable.

So let's weigh in on portal girl, I think she is strong if you have enough viable ways to slow down the game. So it'll be up to you if you want Freijord, Shadow or Ionia.

5 drop scythe dude looks like the worst of the bunch only because we are playing a game where 5 drops come down as 6/6's with quick attack, and endless keywords that machine gun your board. He looks like thresh which is hard to play these days.

Overall Awakening is positioned to hard shuffle the tier list because non of the released cards belong in existing archetypes and thats a good thing we don't want another bard situation.

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