A new Common Shadow Isles Spell, Despair, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]1205[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about E…
A new Common Shadow Isles Spell, Despair, has been revealed!
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A new Champion Shadow Isles Unit, Viego, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]1201[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Em…
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Do we know when the expansion will be launched / reveal will start?
Do we know when the expansion will be launched / reveal will start?
With the new expansion I started to focus on EKKO builds.This is my most conistent and enjoyable list so far:https://outof.cards/legends-of-runeterra/decks/14362-ekkozilean-steampunk-blaster Which E…
With the new expansion I started to focus on EKKO builds.
This is my most conistent and enjoyable list so far:
https://outof.cards/legends-of-runeterra/decks/14362-ekkozilean-steampunk-blaster
Which EKKO builds are "hot" right now?
Which ones worked for you?
I find it "hard" to play with EKKO. The concept works and is strong but besides some "high roll fun" most of my Ws really needed to be earned
and were clutch as f****.
BBG is also a committed "EKKO player" now but struggles a lot to find the right balance.
Like "is it KAHIRI or RUIN RUNNER?", "is it SIVIR?", "DROPBOARDER or not?", "ITERATIVE IMPROVEMENT or just a nice 3drop?"
The META is still yound and so far no one has really find that one recipe "to rule them all"?
What do you guys play?
Competition Theme: Tools Of The Trade We're looking for professional cards this week, so get smithing!You must create a 0-Attack weapon with a passive effectWe're obviously …
We're looking for professional cards this week, so get smithing!
FenrirWulf is looking to celebrate the new expansion announcement in this week's competition, so let's get crafty!
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A new Rare Shadow Isles Unit, Camavoran Dragon, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]1200[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more a…
A new Rare Shadow Isles Unit, Camavoran Dragon, has been revealed!
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A new Common Shadow Isles Unit, Crawling Viperwyrm, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]1199[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn mo…
A new Common Shadow Isles Unit, Crawling Viperwyrm, has been revealed!
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A new Common Demacia Unit, Ruined Dragonguard, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]1198[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more ab…
A new Common Demacia Unit, Ruined Dragonguard, has been revealed!
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A new Rare Demacia Unit, Kadregrin the Ruined, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]1197[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more ab…
A new Rare Demacia Unit, Kadregrin the Ruined, has been revealed!
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A new Rare Bilgewater Unit, Ruined Rex, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]1196[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Emp…
A new Rare Bilgewater Unit, Ruined Rex, has been revealed!
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A new Rare Freljord Unit, Rimefang Denmother, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]1194[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more abo…
A new Rare Freljord Unit, Rimefang Denmother, has been revealed!
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A new Epic Shurima Unit, Thrumming Swarm, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]1193[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about E…
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Has anyone else run into an issue where they cannot access the gauntlet? In my UI it is all faded out, and when I click on it it says I have to play more challenges and quests.
Has anyone else run into an issue where they cannot access the gauntlet? In my UI it is all faded out, and when I click on it it says I have to play more challenges and quests.
https://lor.mobalytics.gg/stats/archetypes 1. Deep has a 56 percent winrate suggesting in the right hands it will work just as well as turbo thralls, this is great the deck used to be unplay…
https://lor.mobalytics.gg/stats/archetypes
1. Deep has a 56 percent winrate suggesting in the right hands it will work just as well as turbo thralls, this is great the deck used to be unplayable
2. Discard aggro at a 55 percent winrate suggesting the nerf to rumage didn't really hurt it
3. Shurima overwhelm needs a deck list update, but is still hitting 57 percent
4. Thresh Nasus obviously, only got hit on it's aggro lines of play 55 percent
5. Leblanc Sivir , very scary now thanks to the new treasure seeker 58 percent
Honestly, these winrates would be top tier in any other meta and things are so balanced
We're just splitting hairs at this point...
https://lor.mobalytics.gg/stats/regions Straight from the region statistics. The 3 top decks are turbo thralls, LeBlanc sivir, and pirate aggro. So typically when we see decks with high winrates l…
https://lor.mobalytics.gg/stats/regions
Straight from the region statistics.
The 3 top decks are turbo thralls, LeBlanc sivir, and pirate aggro.
So typically when we see decks with high winrates like these but relatively low play rates.
The meta is very healthy.
While these decks might statistically be doing well right now, people aren't really playing them in any number to be concerned of.
It also means nobody has attempted to counter these decks yet, meaning what we are really seeing is early climbers blitzing ladder before people can adjust
Other good news signs, Azir Irelia is down to a 50/50 winrate which sounds right given its supposed to be a "combo" deck.
Honestly, still feeling very optimistic about things overall.
I don't remember hearing this anywhere so I'm curious if anyone knows. When you use the tradeable effect does the card draw a random card and then shuffle into your deck, or is it placed on the…
I don't remember hearing this anywhere so I'm curious if anyone knows. When you use the tradeable effect does the card draw a random card and then shuffle into your deck, or is it placed on the bottom of the deck? It doesn't really specify on the HS website either, just saying "Cards with the Tradeable keyword can be played like normal, or traded with a random card in your deck for the low price of 1 Mana.". Thought that maybe it literally trades places with a card in your deck at random instead of shuffling, which if so could be interesting with Lorekeeper Polkelt in the game... But likely not since I think the game doesn't predetermine deck order and just picks a card at random to be the card you draw (unless you've played Polkelt).
So has anyone seen a Twitter post, or some other clarification out there from a dev? Since it doesn't specify that it goes to the bottom of the deck I'm going to assume it shuffles in, as the HS team's attitude on text the last 2-3 years has shifted to not always clarifying unless the effect does something different than expected.
It’s riot I don’t know why I expected anything different. I need a different job with less down time and hopefully less people trying to kill me. Or at least consequences for people tryin…
It’s riot I don’t know why I expected anything different. I need a different job with less down time and hopefully less people trying to kill me. Or at least consequences for people trying to kill me so I can stop playing mobile games.
Echo seems about right. Kill wave one. Revived them with rally. Killed wave two. Revived them with rally. Didn’t have a response for wave three. Denial and Nopify have just gained a metric fuckton of value. I was looking forward to being able to play a bunch of different decks. Looks like I’ll need SI or Ionia in one of my slots.
A new Common Neutral Minion, Spice Bread Baker, has been revealed! [cardimg rating]13506[/cardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Un…
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A new Common Neutral Minion, Spice Bread Baker, has been revealed! Discuss
A new Common Neutral Minion, Spice Bread Baker, has been revealed!
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Finding out the next pre-order hero skin will be Lady Katrana Prestor (aka Onyxia) for mage ended up being the straw that broke the camel's back, making me write a pretty salty comment about being an…
Finding out the next pre-order hero skin will be Lady Katrana Prestor (aka Onyxia) for mage ended up being the straw that broke the camel's back, making me write a pretty salty comment about being annoyed it wasn't a rogue hero. Now, I'm the first to admit it is barely even a first world problem that the jpeg Blizz puts in a bundle isn't the one I wanted, and I wouldn't normally publicise my saltiness, so why did I care enough to do so this time?
There are a whole bunch of contributing factors that on their own wouldn't even be worth mentioning, but they nevertheless summed to one salty rogue main, so let's set them all out to see what really happened here.
* Note when I use the word 'devs' I don't mean the whole HS team, but only whoever has influence on the cosmetics.
Let's start quantitative, since that's always the easiest to argue. As it stands, the number of unique characters each class has representing them as hero portraits is:
In a game where all classes play an equal role, generally get an equal number of cards, and over time get a more or less equal amount of time in the spotlight, having that much variation between classes in anything is pretty weird. We can dismiss DH's low count by it only having been here for a year, but hunter and rogue having so few compared to several classes is tough to explain.
Certainly it's not a problem with limited class fantasy. For rogue especially, you've got rogues filling the role of thugs, thieves, crime lords, spies, assassins, ninjas, pirates and more. Certainly there's scope for overlap in that, but there's also a lot more variation in themes and flavour than, say, a mage who chooses to use a different spell school, or a paladin who… let's face it, there's not much variation within paladin since it's a niche combination of priest and warrior to begin with.
It is somewhat amusing then, that rogues are represented by Valeera (a female elf who's a lawful good spy, ex-gladiator and messenger between the Horde and Alliance) and Maiev (a female elf and lawful good warden/jailer (yep, she's technically not even a rogue)). Not exactly ticking many of the rogue profession boxes there. Love it or loathe it, the Cap'n Valeera skin is all we really have to start representing the less lawful side of the class whose name actively specifies they are outside of the law.
To be honest, getting Mathias Shaw wouldn't help tick many boxes either. We'd get a lawful good male human spy, so that's a hooray for gender and race diversity but doesn't add much new elsewhere. Someone like Gallywix or Lilian Voss would be better, but the ship already seems to have sailed for them.
All this makes it especially frustrating the rogue only has 2 heroes. Where possible I like to set my hero and card back to fit the themes of a deck, but the range of options in rogue is sorely lacking for that.
A more emotional aspect is simply that we are expecting a rogue hero, so when something else arrives instead it is disappointing. Partly we expect a rogue hero just out of the foolish belief that the numbers above can't go too uneven, surely?
The main reason to expect it, however, is that about a year ago the devs said they had the next rogue hero lined up and that it would be "legendary". So they actually told us one was coming! Granted, they said it probably wouldn't arrive as soon as we wanted it - which certainly wasn't a lie - but it being more than a whole year later is well beyond what anyone read into it. I first just assumed it wouldn't be in Scholomance.
The whole anticipation thing was amplified by there being so many good opportunities for rogue heroes lately:
How could you not expect one when there's always a good option? Any one of these not being the rogue alternative is fine. But all of them being something else at a time when the devs are well aware rogue has fallen behind is a bit of a joke and starts to look intentional.
So yes, it is the most minor thing that has no real impact when I'm actually playing the game. But I think my very last sentence contains the real heart of the problem: even if it is very unlikely Blizzard actually planned to screw rogue over with this, the fact it is beginning to look intentional is a real problem for players who have been waiting for a non-Valeera rogue hero for 4 years. It's eroding trust in the devs in a way that is just so silly and avoidable. And despite what it first looks like, it's not the frustrated rogue players who are being silly here because they actually have got the short end of the stick. No, it's the devs who could have simply commissioned a different bit of art at any time in those 4 years. No one would have been the slightest bit upset if Lady Prestor was Mathias Shaw instead, or if we never got Horseman Uther or Firefang Rexxar, so why keep avoiding rogue heroes?
The extension to this is that if we get a trio of Scabbs portraits in the Rewards Track, it won't really remedy the problem because it will look a lot like every class was going to get a trio of mercenary portraits this year anyway. You don't placate someone who's annoyed they have less than everyone else by giving everyone a treat.
So yeah, it is all a super minor psychological issue, but also so easily avoided that I'm still wagging a grumpy finger at Blizz and blaming them for needlessly creating it in the first place.
A new Legendary Warlock Spell, The Demon Seed, has been revealed! [cardimg rating]13196[/cardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Uni…
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A new Legendary Mage Spell, Sorcerer's Gambit, has been revealed! [cardimg rating]13194[/cardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more abou…
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A new Common Neutral Minion, Rustrot Viper, has been revealed! [cardimg rating]13193[/cardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about United…
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A new Rare Warlock Weapon, Runed Mithril Rod, has been revealed! [cardimg rating]13192[/cardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Unit…
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A new Rare Hunter Spell, Ramming Mount, has been revealed! [cardimg rating]13190[/cardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about United in …
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