Hello guys, if you are interested with new cards but bored to play same types that has been found in first days here is some weird decks you might be interested in.

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A shuffle deck. Shuffle more Khahiri the Returneds, Time Bombs or Chirean Sumpworkers by the state of the game. Iterative Improvement is also good with Mechanized Mimic in some situations.

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Another Sumpworks Posse deck. I didn't like the Heimerdinger version so I did a version of mine with the cards I like to play.

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I will add some more decks when i find some interesting stuff with other heroes as well but firstly I need to acquire them and waiting to complete regional rewards for that. Check this thread later for more decks.

And feel free to make any changes with your collection and your thoughts, these decks are placeholders for some ideas, not refined versions of the decks and won't be last versions probably. They are here for just inspiration.

Thanks in advance for checking this up. I hope you like and enjoy.

Edit: I've added 3 new decks to the list.

I've had 2 recent encounters with Secret Passage that I do not think are working as intended.

1) Playing Rogue, I discovered Deck of Lunacy from a Wand Thief and played it, then later drew a 2-cost Blessing of Authority. After playing Secret Passage, I re-drew the Blessing and it cost 5. Cards you discount with Efficient Octo-bot keep their discounts after being shuffled around, but this one did not.

2) My opponent (a Rogue) discovered Evocation, played it, then played Secret Passage. The unused "temporary" Mage spells were returned to his hand at the end of the turn, and never went away until cast. He played one of them the following turn, and another the turn after.

Thoughts?

Hi all, I was wondering if anybody here know, do we need to craft Elite Tauren Chieftain and Gelbin Mekkatorque in order to get that Diamond Ragnaros. I checked multiple times, and although I'm missing only Ysera and Edwin, the counter shows 32/36. I also have 3 golden legendaries, I guess they are counted in. 

Also, I assume this has something to do with the intro of the Legacy set, I guess people who completed their Classic collection before got their Ragnaros without problem. So I'm mainly asking if someone recently crafted legendaries to get Ragnaros and had the same issue.

Edit: I also counted legendaries with Classic tag, there are 33 of them. ETC, Gelbin and Old Murk Eye have promo tag, but I my assumption was that they are also required, since I have the murloc and the numbers fit.

MF / Irelia feels very strong. Very very strong. I’m playing straight Shurima and it’s the only deck I fear. I’ve lost to other decks. But I’m not even sure what to do against her. Kill her sure they are able to deal so much damage so quick I just don’t have time. 
What is everyone else experience so far?

I wanted to request a feature for filtering battle ground minions- instead of "Add a filter" and then choosing a tribe, maybe there should be an option to filter several tribes at once, maybe by excluding 2 to three tribes.

I can recommend using the WoW Secrets Discord channel. They provide a shared sheet with all the known info so far. All 4 puzzles have been found, so far only Warrior has been solved.

Edit: the links are in Celestalon's tweet

Anybody complete the Yoink achievement?  How do you get the Rogue hero power?  I have never been offered that choice

Hey everyone, just curious if this is isolated to me or common for everyone.

Playing on mobile, when I opened the shop post-patch the currency changed, pre-patch it was my local currency (tied to my google play account), now it is showing USD (I play on NA). Anyone else experiencing the same issue?

I'm guessing it got broken by the latest update? Anyone else experiencing this?

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Murlocs in Battlegrounds are just a bit too weak to be enjoyable, right now.

I think an easy way to buff them would be to simply remove the Murloc Tidecaller from the pool of minions. It would make all murloc generation and discovery effects a little bit stronger, and it would help Fungalmancer Flurgle quite a lot.

Any thoughts?

Competition Theme: Rune Scape

Demon Hunters are preparing their Sigils, but it's time for other classes to get in on the action!

• You must create a spell which does something only at the start of your next turn
  • Just like the Sigils, your spell shouldn't have any other effect but one that happens at the start of your next turn
• Your spell cannot be a Demon Hunter card
  • We've seen what Demon Hunters are doing with this effect - let's get creative!
• Your spell cannot be a Secret
  • Cards like Competitive Spirit kind of work like this, but we want straight up spells for this competition

FenrirWulf continues the trend of delving into the Barrens for this week's theme. Are you prepared to get creative?

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• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, May 3 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, May 8 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
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• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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Akama - and more to the point Akama Prime (AP) - is a card that I have wanted to find interesting for the last year, but it has always been underwhelming. I'm hoping that by writing all my thoughts down I can begin to understand why, and then better understand card design too.

As a 3 mana 3/4 stealth, the first body is a solid card by all accounts, and certainly in the same league as the first bodies of the other prime cards. If anything it is better than most of the primes' first bodies because stealth denies the opponent the ability to remove the minion before it accomplishes something, and isn't situational like rush or spell damage.

The problem arises with the prime version of Akama. All the prime cards were designed to be bonkers strong, and something you couldn't print as a normal minion. Where the other prime cards achieve this with a hefty block of text detailing a fancy effect, Akama takes a more succinct and elegant approach by simply switching out 'stealth' for 'permanently stealthed', which we know from adventures can be very powerful. I have no doubt that if AP was a collectible card, it would indeed be bonkers strong.

So where's the problem? I think it is that the odds of drawing Akama twice by turn 6 are tiny, even in rogue. Statistics tell us you need to be ~75% of the way through your deck on average to draw AP, by which point you're probably long past turn 6. If you're against aggro or playing aggro yourself, the game is probably over before you see AP, so it is only worth evaluating against slow decks, and therein lies the issue: most slow decks have a way to deal with a 5 health stealthed minion.

Even when they cannot remove it immediately, AP still takes a whole turn before it can attack and show off the permanence of its stealth, and it probably has to attack at least twice before people it becomes interesting, making AP really, really slow. Compare that to the other primes, all of whom have much faster effects except Reliquary Prime, but at least that has a set of stats and abilities that make it more likely to achieve something significant right away.

The end result is that AP is in practice only marginally better than a 6 mana 6/5 stealth, a stat-line that can conveniently be compared to two cards that have been around in the Classic set since 2014: Stranglethorn Tiger and Ravenholdt Assassin. I think the tiger did see a tiny bit of play in druid at one point, but that's about all these two ever did in constructed. So AP sitting between them makes it seem like AP is actually just a bad card on its own. I'd say he's weaker than MSoG's attempt at this sort of effect (Lotus Assassin), and you can run 2 of those without any worries about shuffling them first.

Am I contradicting myself? First I say I think AP is a bonkers card, then a bad one? Again, timing is everything. If you could play AP on turn 6 and have him be part of a wider plan to pressure the opponent, then he's great. But if you have him on turn 14, when your opponent has stabilised or you are playing a deck that doesn't put on much pressure, then he doesn't do very much.

The (flawed) logic behind the design

It's quite easy to see how AP was made the way he was. Not only does it look cool and powerful at first glance (the community rated Akama quite highly), but we've seen first hand how powerful permanent stealth can be in adventures.

It's also notable that the prime mechanics (deathrattle and shuffle) are both things rogue had synergies for, and it stands to reason that rogue would have an easier time abusing primes than other classes. Stowaway in particular seems to alleviate the slow draw of AP. The trouble with the Stowaway solution is that you still need to have drawn both Akama and a Stowaway, and you have to be playing a fairly slow deck to justify him when you don't see Akama.

The fix

Fixing AP is simple: give him more health. I'd lean towards 7 to put him just out of range of modern Flamestrike +1 spell damage (which is so common and cheap in mage today that it's pretty much always going to be there). That way it makes 1 more class have to work to remove him, but makes almost no difference to classes that couldn't kill him to begin with, or who have un-targeted hard removal. It also gives him the opportunity to trade into a taunt minion without being reduced to piddly health that can be removed by small AoE.

The design lessons

We already know a card's power depends strongly on when it is drawn and played. This is doubly true for uncollectible cards that are shuffled into your deck. So the lesson is to ensure such a card is a good late game card at bare minimum. It doesn't matter how good it is as an early-to-mid game card if it's almost never going to be drawn then.

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A new Common Shurima Unit, Profiteer, has been revealed!

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A new Common Ionia Unit, Dancing Droplet, has been revealed!

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