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A new Common Shurima Unit, Soothsayer, has been revealed!

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A new Rare Shurima Spell, Scrying Sands, has been revealed!

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A new Rare Shurima Spell, Chronoshift, has been revealed!

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A new Champion Shurima Unit, Zilean, has been revealed!

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I've just randomly come up with an idea for a league or a series of tournaments for Wild players who would enjoy theorycrafting decks.

So the format would be similar to what Brawl Blocks were, so forcing decks to be built from cards from set expansions. There would be a few expansions, with voting at the end of each cycle on which expansion to add to the pool, up to six or seven; or vote for an expansion to be rotated with another. Then every two months, it's reset to four expansions. The last two weeks before the reset would be playoffs. Also, Core 2021 would be an omnipresent set to give each class more tools that are interchangable and cover some stuff that expansions cannot.

It's still a loose idea, but I think it would be a great idea overall to showcase the community's creativity.

A new Epic Shurima Unit, The Clock Hand, has been revealed!

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A new Common Shurima Spell, Time in a Bottle, has been revealed!

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A new Rare Shurima Spell, Imagined Possibilities, has been revealed!

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A new Rare Shurima Unit, Preservationist, has been revealed!

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Competition Theme: 'Tis But A Scratch

It's time to weather the storm! Show us some cards that really know how to take a beating.

• You must create a card which uses the Frenzy keyword
  • It doesn't have to have Frenzy itself, it just needs to feature the Keyword in its card text

ChickyChick is finally taking us on our long overdue tour of the Barrens. Hey, what's that mechanic over there?

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Apr 26 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, May 1 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, May 1 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, May 2 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, May 2 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, May 3 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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I want to start by saying I don't mind Demon Hunter at the moment. Its power is fine now that Twin Slice and Blade Dance are gone, so I don't harbour any of the hate I had for the class that I did throughout the Year of the Phoenix.

Nevertheless, I still keep wondering why the class needs to exist, especially from an archetype/mechanics viewpoint. I had hoped that within a year it would be given something that makes it feel truly distinct, but as it stands everything it does is just a slight twist on what other classes could do if they were given the tools, if they don't already do basically the same thing. Let's break down DH's archetypes and mechanics to see what I mean:

Hero attacks

Even at the time DH appeared, multiple classes had direct synergy for the hero attacking: warrior had Hack the System, Armored Goon and Galakrond, while druid had Secure the Deck and Gonk, the Raptor had only just rotated out.

It wasn't long before rogue and warrior were given a hefty weapon package in Scholomance, and in DMF shaman joined in with their Enhancement cards. Come Barrens, and rogue has massive weapons that look and feel a lot like DH's attack buffs.

Even without all the fancy stuff, rogue's hero power has been silently begging for cards that synergise with your hero attacking since 2014. Blizzard just never made the cards. It's not a class identity thing either, because most of DH's weapon attack synergy cards would look perfectly sensible in rogue.

Big demons

Warlock...

OK, so you could argue that warlock's class identity prohibits it from getting the burst damage that many of DH's big demons do. Fine, but they don't really need to be demons. You could make exactly the same cards with the beast tribe instead and hand them to hunter. Or maybe make them mechs, or elementals, or dragons etc. Its not difficult to find another appropriate class for the effect if you just switch out the tribe.

Token decks

Surprisingly not druid, because druid's token decks always use mass board buffs and minions buffs are one of the few things DH can't do.

However, what other class has token decks but (almost) no board buffs? Hunter! We can ignore the fact Unseal the Vault buffs the whole board because you usually only press that button once so it's really just 1 big bit of burst damage. What we can't ignore is that Swarm of Locusts is literally just a slightly bigger Command the Illidari, or that they shared token synergy cards in Scholomance.

Tempo deathrattles

The Barrens deathrattle cards could easily have been given to rogue or hunter, and no one would have been shocked. We would all have just gone "Ooh, deathrattle rogue/hunter has a new look."

Lifesteal burst/OTK

OK, so here I admit the other classes with lots of lifesteal would be very weird with Il'gynoth, since all of paladin, priest and warlock are awful at burst damage (at least in Standard). That said, Il'gynoth really just makes an OTK deck, and to be honest it doesn't matter much that the lifesteal keyword is involved. It still follows the process of: stay alive; draw the deck; play ~5 cards and win.

Basically what I'm saying here is that we didn't need DH for another OTK archetype to exist. It could have just been re-branded to fit the theme of another class and the world would turn much the same.

Soul fragments

Warlock... (I don't even need to add anything this time.)

Outcast

Finally, something truly unique to DH! It has one teeny tiny problem though, and is the main reason big demon DH never took off and bonkers cards like Coilfang Warlord are never played: outcast strongly disincentivises playing anything expensive. The end result that outcast isn't a DH mechanic so much as it is an aggro DH mechanic. The trouble is, when the strongest staple cards have outcast (as they would be because the very point of outcast cards is that they are powerful when the condition is met), all DH decks are going to want to use them, rendering entire supported archetypes worthless.

Outcast would be so much better as a mechanic used infrequently to support aggro decks without being central to the class. At that point it could easily be slipped into one of the other classes as their flavour for a year or so. So rather ironically, I think the one thing that truly does set DH apart would be better off as something that didn't.

Concluding remarks

Sadly, the most I can say to justify DH's existence at this point is that at least it meant the other classes could be pushed in other directions. They often went in roughly the same direction anyway, but I suppose that's not DH's fault.

I'm not optimistic about the class' ability to diversify this year while it is still dominated by the staples and design choices from the Year of the Phoenix, but maybe next year the rotation will herald a new era in which HS has 10 meaningfully different classes. 

A new Common Targon Unit, Chip, has been revealed!

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A new Common Shurima Unit, Clockwork Curator, has been revealed!

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So, this is absolutely nothing, but I just hit legend for the first time (playing about 7 years, never particularly seriously until the last few months) and have been almost entirely F2P the entire time (I bought the most recent tavern pass and Kharazan back in the day.)

So, I ground my way from D5 to L16480 using a slightly aggro secret Paladin. I feel kinda scummy about it, but Paladin and Mage are my mains, and this seemed like the right meta to make the push.

Anyhow, that's all. I'm just happy for the win (and slightly buzzed on a couple of celebratory IPAs)

I am trying to figure out why APM Mage is not getting nerfed but the Tiller otk decks got nerfed in only a week. Can anyone share their thoughts on what key differences make APM Mage fine for the meta as opposed to Tiller decks, or of any other similarities?

Here are the similarities I see so far:

Both can combo as early as turn 4 but go off consistently by about turn 7

Both are countered by certain hunter secrets

Both are countered by certain mage secrets

Both are countered by hyper aggro decks

Both deal about 60 damage maximum

Dirty rat effect needs to be duplicated or the deck can still combo due to redundancy in combo pieces

Both are delayed by Loatheb

So there is a lot of weaving going on in Priest lately with the Veilweaver-bloodweaver-Rally combo that generates tons of spells and discounts them.
It sure can be pretty fun to generate spells and sling those cards with multiple weavers on the board but I see the same "misplay" again and again.

Do you guys agree that playing a Renew with a single veilweaver only to generate a random card is a misplay? You essentially trade a card, you consciously put in your deck for a random one. Seems like a bad deal to me.

There are obviously exceptions:

- Multiple veilweavers
- Desperation for a clear
- Lots of spare mana with a light hand

But i've seen way to many priests throw away their renews for the sake of a random card.

Does anyone know how does Vectus' Whelps work with Aegwynn's Deathrattle effect? Do those Whelps then make other minions you draw inherit the Whelp's powers, like any enchantments it gets (ex. Lifesteal or Rush)?

Clefthoof the card you summon four times with Nagrand Slam usually doesn't have card text. They're plain 3/5 that only attack immediately because of the text on the spell, not because of any card text on the Clefthoofs. However, I just discovered that when you gain control of an opponent's Clefthoof by using Silas Darkmoon it gains Rush as card text. And yes, you can also immediately attack with it, tho I didn't because I misplayed and missed lethal as this interaction came as a total surprise to me.

Haven't tested it, but I'm assuming this works with Initiation, Mind Control, and similar cards too.

Thought I let you all know in case you ever feel the need to steal your opponent's Clefthoof.

Symptomatic of LOR's mini set release schedule, is a general lack of long term viability.

For example Shurima needs something like two more mini sets before its actually interesting beyond the archetypes that are quite well known at this point. (Renekton overwhelm, Nassus slay, Azir swarm, landmark Thalyiah)

Nobody really cares about Sivir with her feeling a bit like a worse Zoe, it doesn't help that reputation in Shurima isn't a thing yet.

Soooo to pass the time I've been playing genshin impact. It's pretty fun but it's designed to absolutely destroy your wallet on a massive scale...don't say I didn't warn you

I don't know about the others, but this "problem" is on my mobile. So, when you added "go to the first page" button, then all this stuff moved to the right and now it's not convenient to press the button of the last page. That's how it looks:

Being on the last page this panel is also slightly behind the screen:

This is a bit of a lame topic, but I made a bunch of cards based around adages from where I live. Appart from commenting my cards, I would really love it if you shared cards based around adages from your home country/region, so that we can learn a bit from each other's cultures and expand our worldview a little bit :)

I picked three adages in Spanish and two in Catalan, since both of this languages are spoken in my home region.

Aunque la mona se vista de seda, mona se queda.

A qui es burla, el dimoni li furga.

Al que madruga, Dios le ayuda.

Li diu el mort al degollat: qui t'ha fer eixe forat?

En abril, aguas mil.

I hope you enjoyed this small selection of cards and the explanations of their flavor. As I said early, I'm looking forward to see similar cards from adages in other languages :)

From https://www.pcgamer.com/legends-of-runeterra-has-quietly-become-the-best-multiplayer-card-game/ :

League of Legends spin-off Legends of Runeterra was already a great card game when I first reviewed it last year. It borrows enough from Magic: The Gathering to be familiar, while also innovating with fantastic ideas like mana that can be banked for later turns and powerful Champion cards with unique abilities that also level up as a reward for playing to a specific strategy. But, hoo boy, has it changed a lot in the year since—and all for the better. It's gotten fantastic new game modes, hundreds of new cards with unique abilities, and a progression system that still is ridiculously generous. I just want to shout it from the rooftops: Legends of Runeterra is the best multiplayer card game. Flat out. 

This week I rerolled the "deal x dmg to minions in BG" to get  "finish top4 in bg". I rerolled that into "spend 500 mana". Now I rerolled another quest (5 wins BG, Duels, TB) and got "deal x dmg to minions in BG" AGAIN!

I can't play BG. All my clients (mobile, Windows VM) are so slow that the rope is halfway done, when I enter Bob's Tavern. 

I know that some people play only BG and they are happy about that. That should not be changed. But if they don't play ranked then they can reroll this into sth. which isn't ranked quest. But as non BG-player you can't avoid BG quests! Why are BG rerolls not rerolled into non-BG-quests?

Like it says in the title, this is my crossover creation, bringing Legends of Runeterra's champions, Landmarks, and other cards to Hearthstone. Some will be rather literal translations, but many will be reinterpretations of what was originally presented. I've only just started today (4/20/2021), so bear with me :) Eventually it is my hope to make a "Runeterra x Hearthstone" expansion as well, moving Hearthstone characters to Runeterra.

A big thanks to Demonxz95 for his Legendaries of Runeterra Weekly Card Design Competition theme, which directly inspired me to expand the project beyond just my one Lissandra card. I started by writing down my general idea here, on this sticky note:

Champion placement is mostly gameplay-related, with the rest down to personal preference (like placing the three Freljord "sisters" in Shaman, or all three Ascended in Paladin). I chose to implement the Dual-class cards to make things more interesting, but I kept the original Scholomance combinations out of simplicity.

The Champions

I don't have the non-Legendaries created yet - let alone all the Legendaries in general - so I'm just gonna list what I have here for now and clean it up as I continue.

Landmarks

Landmarks have become a major part of Legends of Runeterra, so I felt I should at least try to implement them. Hearthcards has the unique "Locations" feature, so I figured why not utilize that? Landmark is a keyword, so I can mess with it via Taliyah and other cards. Hopefully this description makes sense:

Essentially, when you play a Landmark, it counts from 1 to 2 to 3 before it goes away, triggering each effect at the appropriate time. 1 is a Battlecry, 2 is at the start of your next turn, and 3 is at the start of the turn after that. For example, here's my sole Landmark so far, the Vaults of Helia:

(It's supposed to be a Warlock/DH card, but DH is not implemented for Locations so I had to make do.)

As the Vaults of Helia card progresses, it shuffles more and more Soul Fragments into your deck. Pretty straight-forward...at least I hope so.

Closing

This is what I've got so far; thank you for giving it a look-over, and a double-thank you if you decide to leave a comment. Feedback is always appreciated, and keeps me motivated to continue!

So I am currently completing all Lab of Legends quests and it´s a lot of fun.

However, there is one thing that annoys me a little. At the start, you choose the first buff which usually will be an epic one because obviously they give the biggest value in the majority of games. Since they don´t occur as often, you have no choice but to perma spam forfeit and start again, until you get the buff you want. 

Now I am wondering why Rito isn´t just letting people choose the first buff, because you end of rerolling 100x anyway, for what you need. That would save a lot of time and makes more sense, in my opinion. 

What do you think?