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Hello,

hope you are keeping well and safe!

(apologies in advance posting here, but clearly Custom section and no thread available for Custom - Other. thank you for your understanding!)

I would like to recommend a new card game that plays very much like a RPG, and thus a good adaptation for Board Games.

Imagine all those RPG that you love; the excitement with real-time combat, and the strategic reward in making the right choice at the right time!

Of having the different classes and capitalising on their strengths in battle?

The anticipation of all happening simultaneously while you have nanoseconds to decide and make the next move…

But what if you had a card game that could emulate this unique experience?

“LoF: Card Tales” aims to do just that.

I am currently working on the game with very limited available publicly, but ready to demo the game if anyone would like to try. Please note I'm not looking to monetise this, just trying to bring a new Game to the fore!

Reach out on the threadOr message me directly with your interest and we can setup a Demo.

Here's how I genuinely see the game; happy to take critics once you try it out!

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Some of the issues addressed, making ‘LoF: Card Tales’ a unique TCG, are:

- No mana screw / mana flood

- Truly countless strategies, with no genuine power creep, as each Hero (3 per game) have their inherent strengths and weaknesses – irrespective of what cards you play

- Realistic opportunity to play all cards of your deck (all you assembled to use), minimising chance of not ever getting to see the best cards

- Game turns happen simultaneously, without the drawback of cards not impacting gameplay. Also, a game cannot drag endlessly as there are limited turns to test your wits.

- Rather than Card Quantity, there is a focus on Card Quality so that all players can be on par at a start of a Game and enjoy putting their Heroes to the test

See you on the battlefield!

I'm warning you it is a salt thread so before you make your guard, i wanted to pre-warn you.



I am a bit salty, yes, but also i really think Atrocity is unhealthy for the game, I will explain why;

When the preview started for the first time, it was here with She Who Wanders. Control it until you find Atrocity then Atrocity to the face.

After that, There is They Who Endure decks which you may be know as Elise/Kalista. Same thing with more bodies. Control the game until you make a fat They Who Endure and find Atrocity. Then Atrocity to the face.

And then, we got our first expansion and Bilgewater. Then, there was those Nautilus decks. Control until you upgrade Nautilus, find it, then Atrocity to the face.

After that, we got another expansion and Targon. Then a new keyword Spellshield, -let's make atrocity harder to counter-. Find a big body which doesn't matter in which region, Aurelion Sol etc. Find them, then Atrocity to the face.

And now, Same strategy in different colors, Nasus thing-y. Make Nasus fat, find Atrocity and Atrocity to the face.


Don't get me wrong, I am not at losing but lose to same strategy with different colors bothers me so much. It will be same with new expansions. There will be always fat bodies, and Atrocity over and over again. I mean, it can't be nerfed, values are fair enough. I mean, mana cost for what it does but it is just boring for that much time. Same strategy over and over again. Something must be done before standard rotation happens because it won't be in near future.

I have just described it above but i want to repeat. It is fucking 5th time in different timelines of the game that a single card makes same archetype strategy/playstyle valid.

I don't know that people is ok or not with this but same shit different smell isn't really fun to play or play against for my tastes.

Loving this Tavern Brawl. I finally get to enjoy Tess Greymane and Bazaar Burglary again. Let the fireworks commence!

A new Common Shurima Unit, Soothsayer, has been revealed!

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I've just randomly come up with an idea for a league or a series of tournaments for Wild players who would enjoy theorycrafting decks.

So the format would be similar to what Brawl Blocks were, so forcing decks to be built from cards from set expansions. There would be a few expansions, with voting at the end of each cycle on which expansion to add to the pool, up to six or seven; or vote for an expansion to be rotated with another. Then every two months, it's reset to four expansions. The last two weeks before the reset would be playoffs. Also, Core 2021 would be an omnipresent set to give each class more tools that are interchangable and cover some stuff that expansions cannot.

It's still a loose idea, but I think it would be a great idea overall to showcase the community's creativity.

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Competition Theme: 'Tis But A Scratch

It's time to weather the storm! Show us some cards that really know how to take a beating.

• You must create a card which uses the Frenzy keyword
  • It doesn't have to have Frenzy itself, it just needs to feature the Keyword in its card text

ChickyChick is finally taking us on our long overdue tour of the Barrens. Hey, what's that mechanic over there?

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Apr 26 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, May 1 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, May 1 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, May 2 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, May 2 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, May 3 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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I want to start by saying I don't mind Demon Hunter at the moment. Its power is fine now that Twin Slice and Blade Dance are gone, so I don't harbour any of the hate I had for the class that I did throughout the Year of the Phoenix.

Nevertheless, I still keep wondering why the class needs to exist, especially from an archetype/mechanics viewpoint. I had hoped that within a year it would be given something that makes it feel truly distinct, but as it stands everything it does is just a slight twist on what other classes could do if they were given the tools, if they don't already do basically the same thing. Let's break down DH's archetypes and mechanics to see what I mean:

Hero attacks

Even at the time DH appeared, multiple classes had direct synergy for the hero attacking: warrior had Hack the System, Armored Goon and Galakrond, while druid had Secure the Deck and Gonk, the Raptor had only just rotated out.

It wasn't long before rogue and warrior were given a hefty weapon package in Scholomance, and in DMF shaman joined in with their Enhancement cards. Come Barrens, and rogue has massive weapons that look and feel a lot like DH's attack buffs.

Even without all the fancy stuff, rogue's hero power has been silently begging for cards that synergise with your hero attacking since 2014. Blizzard just never made the cards. It's not a class identity thing either, because most of DH's weapon attack synergy cards would look perfectly sensible in rogue.

Big demons

Warlock...

OK, so you could argue that warlock's class identity prohibits it from getting the burst damage that many of DH's big demons do. Fine, but they don't really need to be demons. You could make exactly the same cards with the beast tribe instead and hand them to hunter. Or maybe make them mechs, or elementals, or dragons etc. Its not difficult to find another appropriate class for the effect if you just switch out the tribe.

Token decks

Surprisingly not druid, because druid's token decks always use mass board buffs and minions buffs are one of the few things DH can't do.

However, what other class has token decks but (almost) no board buffs? Hunter! We can ignore the fact Unseal the Vault buffs the whole board because you usually only press that button once so it's really just 1 big bit of burst damage. What we can't ignore is that Swarm of Locusts is literally just a slightly bigger Command the Illidari, or that they shared token synergy cards in Scholomance.

Tempo deathrattles

The Barrens deathrattle cards could easily have been given to rogue or hunter, and no one would have been shocked. We would all have just gone "Ooh, deathrattle rogue/hunter has a new look."

Lifesteal burst/OTK

OK, so here I admit the other classes with lots of lifesteal would be very weird with Il'gynoth, since all of paladin, priest and warlock are awful at burst damage (at least in Standard). That said, Il'gynoth really just makes an OTK deck, and to be honest it doesn't matter much that the lifesteal keyword is involved. It still follows the process of: stay alive; draw the deck; play ~5 cards and win.

Basically what I'm saying here is that we didn't need DH for another OTK archetype to exist. It could have just been re-branded to fit the theme of another class and the world would turn much the same.

Soul fragments

Warlock... (I don't even need to add anything this time.)

Outcast

Finally, something truly unique to DH! It has one teeny tiny problem though, and is the main reason big demon DH never took off and bonkers cards like Coilfang Warlord are never played: outcast strongly disincentivises playing anything expensive. The end result that outcast isn't a DH mechanic so much as it is an aggro DH mechanic. The trouble is, when the strongest staple cards have outcast (as they would be because the very point of outcast cards is that they are powerful when the condition is met), all DH decks are going to want to use them, rendering entire supported archetypes worthless.

Outcast would be so much better as a mechanic used infrequently to support aggro decks without being central to the class. At that point it could easily be slipped into one of the other classes as their flavour for a year or so. So rather ironically, I think the one thing that truly does set DH apart would be better off as something that didn't.

Concluding remarks

Sadly, the most I can say to justify DH's existence at this point is that at least it meant the other classes could be pushed in other directions. They often went in roughly the same direction anyway, but I suppose that's not DH's fault.

I'm not optimistic about the class' ability to diversify this year while it is still dominated by the staples and design choices from the Year of the Phoenix, but maybe next year the rotation will herald a new era in which HS has 10 meaningfully different classes. 

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So, this is absolutely nothing, but I just hit legend for the first time (playing about 7 years, never particularly seriously until the last few months) and have been almost entirely F2P the entire time (I bought the most recent tavern pass and Kharazan back in the day.)

So, I ground my way from D5 to L16480 using a slightly aggro secret Paladin. I feel kinda scummy about it, but Paladin and Mage are my mains, and this seemed like the right meta to make the push.

Anyhow, that's all. I'm just happy for the win (and slightly buzzed on a couple of celebratory IPAs)

I am trying to figure out why APM Mage is not getting nerfed but the Tiller otk decks got nerfed in only a week. Can anyone share their thoughts on what key differences make APM Mage fine for the meta as opposed to Tiller decks, or of any other similarities?

Here are the similarities I see so far:

Both can combo as early as turn 4 but go off consistently by about turn 7

Both are countered by certain hunter secrets

Both are countered by certain mage secrets

Both are countered by hyper aggro decks

Both deal about 60 damage maximum

Dirty rat effect needs to be duplicated or the deck can still combo due to redundancy in combo pieces

Both are delayed by Loatheb