Legends of Runeterra

My goal is to build a Twisted Fate/Ezreal deck that relies on Riptide Rex to charge most of the procs.

Here goes the core cards i don't want to change:

Thoughts?

I am brand new to the game, less than 2 weeks played, but I did some looking around and decided on Sea Monsters as my first real deck. It took some serious learning and experimentation with the list before I got it to a point that I feel comfortable with. Since I'm so new and my collection is lacking, I incorporated the must-haves and other things that I happened to already have, along with copious amounts of removal, and wound up with a bit of a frankenstein monster of a deck. But it has been working, so I thought I would share and see if anyone else around here is playing this deck and if they have any pointers.

I haven't been browsing the subreddit much lately; apparently this was discovered a few days ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/gtwb00/psa_you_can_use_html_codes_for_formatting_deck/

https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/gu4315/all_the_46_sprites_you_can_add_in_your_deck_title/

Just be careful--apparently there are a few invalid combinations that will cause your client to repeatedly crash until you reinstall.

So the pros have weighed in, let's see what predictions I got wrong.

Tier 1 - Deep, Sejuani, Heimer

So deep was obviously a contender for best deck when things slowed down after the patch, we see a Frej list tier 1 as predicted, and 1 thing I got wrong.

If you'd ask me if Heimer was tier 1 I would have laughed, and been like tier 3 at best

So we'll put the score at 2/3 pretty good, but not perfect calls.

Frej also shows up in tiers 2 and 3 frequently

Dem bannerman has seen a huge drop in play rate, but there is a new version that runs Fiora with spells to help provide an alternate win con.

It's also dropped badger bear, no duh.

The deck is still good it's just different, and harder to play overall.

Karma lists are down to tier 2 that's the other big change, along with burn.

It's worth noting that things are so balanced right now that there is only a 5 percent win rate difference between the best lists and the worst.

So you should honestly just play what you want, if you want to be hardcore play frej if you don't then play whatever you want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxZvtsfe_CI

I found out just now that using [Hearthstone Card (Stand United) Not Found] on two units which have been targeted by opponent's Challenger attackers completely negates the Challenger effect. I mean I guess it is intended, but still I don't really find it fair that just by swapping two units' places you can basically disengage them from combat or even use them to block any other attacker. The card already disrupts your plans by swapping them (and giving them barrier), why should it even have this further interaction? I might also just be a bit salty over losing to an opponent who used this trick 3 times in a row, but still...

I really like the monkey idol. It goes with the idea I had some time ago to add a bit more personal flavor into Freljord. One of the Freljord cards mentions making an enemy into a fine totem. So I was thinking of having a few totem like cards for Freljord that acts like the monkey idol. They can't attack or block but take damage every turn but provide some kind of area of effect buff for you or your unites.

Like Totem of Spirit: As long as this totem is in play your Nexus can't be targeted by spells or abilities. Totem of Might: As long as this totem is in play your unites have Overwhelm. Totem of Endurance. As long as this totem is in play your Nexus has Tough.

Stuff like that and since they take up a unite slot and can't attack or block it's probably best to limit your deck to having only one totem. The one that best fits what your deck is trying to do.

Yesterday I was playing a game and had three Leviathans on board and won. So I didn't think to much into it until today when I was messing around with the deck and saw something odd. The deck only has two Leviathans and no way to get a third. So how exactly did I pull into a third Leviathan? O_o

Need - I was thinking about how hard it is for Crimson Decks to set up due to there being close to 0 1 drop units for Crimson Decks, the only viable options are unscarred reaver and plucky poro, neither of which belong to noxus, with the latest update all noxus 1 drops are left with 1hp I believe. That leaves Crimson decks in a weird position where any viable option sacrifices late game value, mainly due to Noxus running with very very little hand replacement or card draw, trifarian assessor, and crimson curator being the only way noxus has to refill their hand... That being said I feel that the Crimson Cult could use a 1 drop, useful to the cause.

Crimson Flagellant  

1 cost - regeneration 

Red Lashing (play skill)

play - deal 2 (1) damage to me and 1 to a unit (not nexus)

1dmg               3hp   (2hp)
                              

Balancing - I feel like this is a good trade off, it doesn’t replace the value of blade’s edge, but it creates a value of its own instead, one that doesn’t threaten balance, but does allow crimson decks to start building an early game without requiring crimson disciple to be in your starting hand, it’s also decently counter-able, as a play skill it gives the victim time to respond, similar to black powder bomb (I really hate that black powder bomb isn’t instant, but balance is important) it isn’t impossible to defend against. Note that the skill says and, not then, so this separates the value of the skill into 2 connected instances, if the skill is denied it stops 2(1) damage to the Flagellant, which could be positive, or negative depending on your circumstances, on the other hand there are ways to meditate value on the victims side, any positive hp boosts will nullify the effects.

Synergy - This card synergies very well with crimson decks especially as it was intended, since it is a crimson card it can be created by the crimson curator, however, I do recognize that a 1/3 with regen isn’t especially useful in this game, which is why I wanted to push the 1 damage to A UNIT, not an enemy unit, so it can be used to reactivate crimson curator for a different card. However this card does have positive synergy with other cards and decks aswell, it works kind of like a worse 1 cost noxious fervor, but it guarantees value so long as the Flagellant survives till the end of the round, that being said, this card synergies well with Vlad, bc it starts his level up requirement with at least 1 surviving unit, it synergies with Swain, bc it starts his level up too with 3 damage, It also can be used to activate other cards that require units be pre damaged, like Aurok, Flock, and Guillotine, I don’t think this works with gp very well tho, similar to black powder bomb it risks killing a unit rather than damage, but for freljord it would be able to activate scar cards, reaver and warmother would be if it a great deal from a low cost unit that could activate their requirements, an early game activated reaver would be a great help to freljord scar decks that frankly don’t see much play.

Wrap up - In conclusion, this card would be a viable 1 cost starting card for noxus decks like Vlad and Swain, especially crimson decks that desperately lack early game options. The card has value with some planning necessary, and offers an activatee and an activator for the crimson cult and alike. It also fills out some level up requirements, And gives late game value, something that is rather lacking in many 1 drop units, pretty much any poro that aren’t in poro decks, Any 1 cost unit with 1 health or below 3 damage. BUT most of all CRIMSON FLAGELLANT fills a void in noxus, the need for early game starters with more than a 1 time use (Ahem, legion sabatour, Ahem), and it finally gives Crimson decks a starting card that isn’t just crimson disciple again.

thanks!

If you got to masters by using some meta net deck that someone else made did you actually achieve anything? Be honest. Can you honestly refer to yourself as a Master player?

The times they are a changing boys.

Assumptions made by streamers and pro players prior to the release of the patch have been proven false.

The sooner you accept this, the better you will do on ranked ladder.

So which regions were the big winners.

Tier 1 - Frejord

 Yup from meme to dream, slow rolling is how the game is played now and this region is the best at that style of play

It turns out that early game pressure doesn't exist to keep this faction in check anymore

You can pair it with Noxious, or Shadow or Ionia or Bilge

It honestly doesn't really matter, you can even go pure allegiance

Expect to see an obnoxious amount of Sejuani over the next month

Tier 2 - Bilgewater

This faction is just a card advantage control machine and in a meta where healing doesn't matter this is very very strong

You can run any champions that generate additional value but TF is the best at this.

What else is there to say plunder effects are very good right now

Tier 3 - Shadow Isles

Healing's decreased importance see's Shadow drop down a bit but the sheer flexibility of the faction means it's still very strong.

Run keg control, run ephemerals for fun, probably not spiders anymore, but sea monsters and they who endure are fine.

Tier 4 - Ionia

Stun effects, will of ionia, counter spells these things are naturally good in a slower meta

But we can't pretend that this faction wasn't nerfed decently hard

Ironically, enlightened decks with Fejord are okay now, again no early game pressure

Stun decks with mr samurai were designed to deal with aggro and midrange and they don't exist anymore

Tier 5 - P And Z

The burn nerfs hit harder than anyone else predicted and Temo is not a good sub for rearguard

He is too R And G and he doesn't interact well with transfusion

Ezreal is fine, but P and Z struggles to deal with huge creatures, 3 thermos will only get you so far

Heim has similar issues where his turrets don't deal with overwhelm

Tier 6 - Noxious

The aggro noxious identity isn't really a thing now, but the Vlad list is so strong that it almost makes up for it

Swain is a little worse by proxy, in a game where you can't bring the nexus health down to 0 by turn 6

Tier 7 - Demacia

Oh how the mighty have fallen bannerman are nowhere to be seen, or missfortunes scouts, or Fiora thanks to the stand alone nerf

That really just leaves Lux, who again 4 damage removal  is less valuable when every list has unlimited card advantage and huge dudes

I look forward to all of the angry trolls in the comments and the silent confirmation that this list is accurate in the next two weeks.

every card game has an arena game type that people with good skills and want to get all cards witchout spending thousands of dollars can play to grind there way up there. in most of these games you can get the currency that you spent on the arena run and start profiting is after about 65% of the run being won. in legends of runeterra you only get back the currency that you spent after fully winning the expedition!!!! and you dont get a sinhle extra green essense you litterly end up with 2000. and if you finiah with 6 oit of 7 wins you only get 1000 essense wich means you lose half of it. that it self ia extremly greedy since it will be hard to grind the expedition. but we can argue that it is much easier to get a perfect run in runeterra than other card games. but then you have a LIMITED AMOUNT OF EXPEDITIONS PER WEEK. that is the most greedy and bullshitty thing i have ever seen in a cardgame. seriously riot proved it self more greedy that blizzard with that cheap move. they blocked all our ways of grinding up the full collection of cards and is forcing us to either grind for many weeks or to pay alot of money to get the cards. honestly this is a game breaking experiense for me and i dont think i will take this game seriously anymore since it is such a money trap. 

thanks for reading my rant and excuse my poor english please

I wanted to know if this was happening to anyone else. I have had a couple games where the game had decided that I don’t want to defend, at key moments where defense is a necessity. It’s led to several losses, even in ranked. It’s not that the game times out. It just skips my defense step entirely. Again, I just wanted to know if this is happening to anyone else and if they are looking into it.

Is there anything similar to HSReplay for Runeterra? Tks

I'm not a fan at all of stealing, I hated it in hearthstone. But it is already in game so I have to accept it. BUT what is a huge problem that we don't know what card was stolen. I just lost a game cause guy stole 2 will of ionias and put karma then radiant in my hand. But if u can see what cards where stolen u can play around. But like that it's just sucks and feels very unfair. So I suggest that change. And also the interface should show us which spells where made by Karma so u can know, that it's your opponent s original deny or will, or its a spell made by Karma.

Interface has to improve, pilfered goods MUST CHANGE!

Question is in the title: have you purchased a cosmetic, and/or do you plan to buy one? Are there any particular cosmetics you want to see in the game? I'm just curious if anyone has bothered; I have yet to see something new in my Runeterra games.

I want to buy a board or two, but I haven't done it yet. Looking up the music on YouTube has led me to believe I will eventually buy the Iceborn Peak board, and possibly the Slaughter Docks board as well. As for everything else:

• I don't see the value in the guardians, but if they ever hand one out I'll take a Silverwing, thank you.
• My favorite card backs currently are the ones you earn (namely Freljord, Bilgewater, and Demacia).
• I don't need new emotes because I'm fine with just the Hello-Braum and the GG-Shen.

My hope/dream is that eventually we'll see a cool Leona vs Diana board when Mt. Targon comes out, and then I'll just use that one forever. I would also insta-buy a Lissandra board, but that would probably overlap too much with Iceborn Peak.

I have some ideas for what rule sets Riot could implement for Gauntlets and Labs, let me know what you think of them!

1. A max of 3 Regions

2. A max of 6 unique champions (so you could have up to 18 total champions in a deck)

3. At the start of each round, players who had the attack token last round and didn't use it create a Fleeting Relentless Pursuit in hand 

4. 25 Nexus Health 

5. Players start with 1 Spell Mana and a 0/1 in play

6. The Power and Health of all units is swapped

7. The cost of units can be payed for with up to 1 Spell Mana. 

These were just some off the top of my head, but I think they help show how amazing Labs and Gauntlets could be for Runeterra! 

There has always been pros and cons of live card balancing in games when compared to the hands off approach of mtg.

For one, you can unintentionally ruin what has made you game fun by listening to your fans, Gwent being a great example with it's gold update.

Similarly, with it's limited card pool and emphasis on champions,  Legends of Runterra has to be cautious not to make too many archetypes unplayable.

So what changes did we see and what are the meta implications...

1. Stand alone no longer works with Zed, this list want never top tier so why did Riot want to kill this champion

2. Elise is worse because she can't flood the board with brood swarm - again not on the tier list so this nerf doesn't make sense

3. Legion rearguard was an aggro card not a burn card per say, so now Darius and Katarina are worse

4. Badger bear was showing up in control decks, but they nerfed the damage not the toughness, so they made it worse at aggro but still good in control

5. Unyielding spirit still exists so Fiora is fine, even though she was the nerf target

6. Boomcrew nerf was needed and well implemented

7. Grizzles ranger got double nerfed and is now unplayable

Unintended meta consequences

control variants are the only archetypes worth playing mid range and aggro are dead

So no bannerman, no noxious anything that isn't swain

Region diversity will appear healthy, but deck archetypes will all be very slow

Fun for some, absolutely awful for the majority of players 2/3

Do something about Unyielding Spirit already! That card is BS and people are finding even more BS ways to use it.

I would like better Sound cues's for when my Time is about to Run Out it's fairly easy to think about whom i use witch spell tu use on or who i use to defend and lose sight of the timer

I was literally hovering over the final spell to win the match when the internet went out for about 5 minutes. Give me my win now!