Shugo Complaining About New Expansion
https://mobalytics.gg/blog/lor-heart-of-the-huntress-thoughts/
Frankly, and I've said this multiple times we won't really know the true impact of the 3 Champs till Eternal ladder opens up
But yes as it stands in standard they numerically inferior in every way to what's good
Namely beater decks and aggro decks
Saying poro king is x good without braum is like saying Evelyn is x good without Siren song it just doesn't work or feel as strong
Similar things can be said about abush/ transform and its general reliance on pokey stick to flip ping based transform creatures or gnar
Bird lady might be the only champion we can definitely say is pretty meh and I will 100% agree with that
But thankfully the more cards that get printed thr better she gets absolutely she's a grower not a shower
But absolutely if you want to make the argument that decks with strong theme ingredients and build around conditions are generally bad right now in standard absolutely
Lurk is down to a negative winrate in standard...lurk the original Unga bunga is not Unga or bunga enough...for standard the format it's supposed to be good in
I dont like lurk I'm just saying somethings definately wrong there
Cuz if lurk can't get it up what chance does ambush have?
So yeah there is a problem with LOR and what works and what doesn't
And it isn't the champ design that's for sure
Keep in mind my big 10 brain solution for fixing midrange frostbite in standard was hmmmm what if I add more burst and put some big overwhelm wolves into it
And you know what it worked cuz or course it did. Part of it is the turbo ash ans leblanc tho so that is case where the Champs get to do some carrying in a non beater capacity which is nice
But 99% of the time I see people play ambush they don't turbo nadalee or try to preserve nar and if you arent doing that it says a lot about your faith in the current balance of power between champions and just hand vommit board state
I think this was a big problem that happened with gwent the minute gold cards or champions feel less important than say spamming pings till you play 3 6/6 bots
Or grinding stats till you have an exodia body and just playing a massive low curve 2/1 spam or anything else that's good right now
When that becomes more important than the Champs you're playing and the new Champs designed by Riot that's when the game stops functioning as intended
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https://mobalytics.gg/blog/lor-heart-of-the-huntress-thoughts/
Frankly, and I've said this multiple times we won't really know the true impact of the 3 Champs till Eternal ladder opens up
But yes as it stands in standard they numerically inferior in every way to what's good
Namely beater decks and aggro decks
Saying poro king is x good without braum is like saying Evelyn is x good without Siren song it just doesn't work or feel as strong
Similar things can be said about abush/ transform and its general reliance on pokey stick to flip ping based transform creatures or gnar
Bird lady might be the only champion we can definitely say is pretty meh and I will 100% agree with that
But thankfully the more cards that get printed thr better she gets absolutely she's a grower not a shower
But absolutely if you want to make the argument that decks with strong theme ingredients and build around conditions are generally bad right now in standard absolutely
Lurk is down to a negative winrate in standard...lurk the original Unga bunga is not Unga or bunga enough...for standard the format it's supposed to be good in
I dont like lurk I'm just saying somethings definately wrong there
Cuz if lurk can't get it up what chance does ambush have?
So yeah there is a problem with LOR and what works and what doesn't
And it isn't the champ design that's for sure
Keep in mind my big 10 brain solution for fixing midrange frostbite in standard was hmmmm what if I add more burst and put some big overwhelm wolves into it
And you know what it worked cuz or course it did. Part of it is the turbo ash ans leblanc tho so that is case where the Champs get to do some carrying in a non beater capacity which is nice
But 99% of the time I see people play ambush they don't turbo nadalee or try to preserve nar and if you arent doing that it says a lot about your faith in the current balance of power between champions and just hand vommit board state
I think this was a big problem that happened with gwent the minute gold cards or champions feel less important than say spamming pings till you play 3 6/6 bots
Or grinding stats till you have an exodia body and just playing a massive low curve 2/1 spam or anything else that's good right now
When that becomes more important than the Champs you're playing and the new Champs designed by Riot that's when the game stops functioning as intended
When this happens, your only likely recourse will be to pack it in. If you can, try to have the reserves for a year of no income.
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Additionally the idea that Akshan is a well designed champ definately might have been the case at one point
But he very quickly became a beat stick for swinging glave in the same way Samara became an accelerator for bot spam
It's a pretty classic case of the most effective way to win at LOR is to not actually care about your Champs at all to simple use them as a means to an end unless they themselves can exodia and then that's okay keep those dudes alive
We see decks that are heavily reliant on their Champs like lurk and frostbite and deep generally underperform across all formats because it simple turns out that the 34 other cards in your deck matter more than your champions
What happened to master yi, or Lee Sin these primary champ build around win conditions that generally "should" be getting better as the game progresses and develops but are in fact getting infinitely worse
I dont know about you guys but I want to get dragon kicked in the face or void sliced or whatever. At least I know the game is working as intended
The worst part is I generally don't know how to fix this. They could make pro king roll with a random key word and sometimes he gets spell shield?
They could make tiger girl create javelin on level instead of strike?
These things would be good but they wouldn't solve the fundamental problem of...spam 2/1s, exodia, or develop some other non champ related wincon generally being better than your primary champ wincon and as long as that's the case I don't know how the new Champ releases don't continue to be less impactful than they should be
Oh man 0/17 xolani
That card was sooooo big!
Sooooo big
How did you make such a big card!
Wow that 0/14 poro was so big
How'd you make such a big poro?
Yeah so once again fb lockdown is a solid black sheep pick right now
Cuz 90% of the decks in standard just want to swing their big dick
And they can't if it's all shriveled up
Are you guys literally trying to prove my point lol?!
Thank you I guess
I'll take a free harsh winds into ash level up on your renekton and scissors girl
They were sooooo big what happened?
Now they all shriveled up
Like your tiny peneisis...do you understand the metaphor?
Are you getting this?
All joking aside I'm not saying frostbite lockdown is a "good deck"
It's an amazing deck into every dick swinging beater list
It's a God fucking awful deck into every Jinx aggro list
But thats the game we play isn't it?
They call it a meta for a reason you can counter one thing you can't counter both
Pick your poison
Yep the best deck in standard is literally 0 champion 1 drop spam
Woooooooo
Fun
Siren song nerf when?