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Submitted 4 years, 10 months ago by

I know only one copy of a specific champion can be on the board at once but what happens if, for example, I buff a jinx and it vanishes?

Will it keep my buffs and reappear in my hand? or get shuffled into my deck (by playing jinx's get excited) with buffs?

Or will it simply revert to it's default state?

  • Dopam1ne's Avatar
    95 25 Posts Joined 10/20/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    I know only one copy of a specific champion can be on the board at once but what happens if, for example, I buff a jinx and it vanishes?

    Will it keep my buffs and reappear in my hand? or get shuffled into my deck (by playing jinx's get excited) with buffs?

    Or will it simply revert to it's default state?

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  • Almaniarra's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 1000 1509 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    by vanish what you mean? there is no way to obliterate a champion in the game.

    If buffed jinx is destroyed or recalled back to your hand, your other jinx's in your deck will be without buffs, at default stats if you are asking this.

    Card to hand and Card to deck mechanics are same with Hearthstone in this game. There will be no buffs if they are shuffled to your deck or recalled back to your hand.

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  • Dopam1ne's Avatar
    95 25 Posts Joined 10/20/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From Almaniarra

     

    Card to hand and Card to deck mechanics are same with Hearthstone in this game. There will be no buffs if they are shuffled to your deck or recalled back to your hand.

    This was the answer I was looking for.

    my bad, when I say vanish I mean swapped out for the other jinx card

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  • Bystekhilcar's Avatar
    270 335 Posts Joined 09/02/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    To be fair, it's not 100% intuitive; there are some interactions with buffs and bounces that don't make a lot of sense. As an example: if you've played a Poro-Snax with a Lonely Poro in hand, it'll get buffed to 2/2. When played, the newly generated Poro also receives the +1/+1 despite not existing before the buff was played. And yet when Lonely Poro is returned to hand it reverts to a 1/1, losing the buffs that even generated cards receive. It's consistent with previous mechanics, but in no way intuitive.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From Bystekhilcar

    To be fair, it's not 100% intuitive; there are some interactions with buffs and bounces that don't make a lot of sense. As an example: if you've played a Poro-Snax with a Lonely Poro in hand, it'll get buffed to 2/2. When played, the newly generated Poro also receives the +1/+1 despite not existing before the buff was played. And yet when Lonely Poro is returned to hand it reverts to a 1/1, losing the buffs that even generated cards receive. It's consistent with previous mechanics, but in no way intuitive.

    That's weird I would assume the Poro Snax is an aura effect like Warmother's Call if any poro is on board it gets +X/+X (X being the number of Poro Snax played).

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  • FortyDust's Avatar
    Pumpkin 1205 1912 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From Dopam1ne

    I know only one copy of a specific champion can be on the board at once

    This is actually not true. There are several ways to get duplicate Champions on the board at the same time.

    They do not act like legendary cards in Magic.

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  • BlueSpark's Avatar
    180 193 Posts Joined 01/27/2020
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From FortyDust

    This is actually not true. There are several ways to get duplicate Champions on the board at the same time.

    So you're only forbidden from playing duplicates from your hand (as they turn into signature spells), but you can create copies of ones that are already on the field?

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  • OldManSanns's Avatar
    Azir 1040 924 Posts Joined 08/05/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From BlueSpark
    Quote From FortyDust

    This is actually not true. There are several ways to get duplicate Champions on the board at the same time.

    So you're only forbidden from playing duplicates from your hand (as they turn into signature spells), but you can create copies of ones that are already on the field?

    Correct.

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  • Bystekhilcar's Avatar
    270 335 Posts Joined 09/02/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From DoubleSummon
    Quote From Bystekhilcar

    To be fair, it's not 100% intuitive; there are some interactions with buffs and bounces that don't make a lot of sense. As an example: if you've played a Poro-Snax with a Lonely Poro in hand, it'll get buffed to 2/2. When played, the newly generated Poro also receives the +1/+1 despite not existing before the buff was played. And yet when Lonely Poro is returned to hand it reverts to a 1/1, losing the buffs that even generated cards receive. It's consistent with previous mechanics, but in no way intuitive.

    That's weird I would assume the Poro Snax is an aura effect like Warmother's Call if any poro is on board it gets +X/+X (X being the number of Poro Snax played).

    Yeah, that's exactly how I'd have assumed it would work too. I know from experience, however, that it does not. Just one of those interactions you have to learn to accept I suppose... it's been years and I'm still not 100% happy that you can't use Silence to remove Polymorph in HS ¬.¬.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From BlueSpark
    Quote From FortyDust

    This is actually not true. There are several ways to get duplicate Champions on the board at the same time.

    So you're only forbidden from playing duplicates from your hand (as they turn into signature spells), but you can create copies of ones that are already on the field?

    Do note that some cards specifically state they copy followers though.

    The ways I know to get many champions on board are Thresh, Dawn and Dusk, Warmother's Call, The Harrowing, Detain, Kinkou Wayfinder(Summoning Teemo),Kalista, Mist's Call.

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  • Almaniarra's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 1000 1509 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From DoubleSummon
    Quote From BlueSpark
    Quote From FortyDust

    This is actually not true. There are several ways to get duplicate Champions on the board at the same time.

    So you're only forbidden from playing duplicates from your hand (as they turn into signature spells), but you can create copies of ones that are already on the field?

    Do note that some cards specifically state they copy followers though.

    The ways I know to get many champions on board are Thresh, Dawn and Dusk, Warmother's Call, The Harrowing, Detain, Kinkou Wayfinder(Summoning Teemo),Kalista, Mist's Call.

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  • BlueSpark's Avatar
    180 193 Posts Joined 01/27/2020
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From Bystekhilcar

    Poro-Snax

    [...]

    It's consistent with previous mechanics, but in no way intuitive.

    I agree that it's very unintuitive. Also, I'd argue that it's mostly consistent with other buff effects, but the capitalized "ANYWHERE" in the description could easily be interpreted as a keyword which makes the buff persistent.

    Edit: Thanks on the additional pointers on multi-champion summoning. So, more accurately, it can be achieved by summoning the extra champion(s) from anywhere but your hand (because you duplicate champion cards in hand get auto-converted).

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