Seems like someone in team5's mercs devs just loves his iteration of dopplegangsters that the nerf is pathetic. What exactly is this particular fight that's so valuable that a proper rebalancing cannot be done? You're still required to run specific mercs just so they dont kick your arse on the way to the boss. Funnily, even the boss fight is nothing in comparison with this bs.
I agree, this small change doesn't solve the fundamental problems with this encounter:
Their duplication ability is too fast for most teams. At the abolute best, you'll be able to take one out of the six Dopplegangsters.
In the second and subsequent rounds, their damage output is overwhelming -- 36 x 6 = 216 points of damage, assigned in discrete chunks, ensuring at least 2 of your team members will die.
Until the designers fix either of these problems, this whole encounter will remain the most danagerous one in the game.
Indeed. Dopplegangster is more dangerous than actual Heroic bossfights and it's not interesting to playthrough and it can ruin lengthy runs. Blizz acknowledges that it made a design mistake by making this change but . . . doesn't fix anything. It's impossible to tell if this is trolling or incompetence due to internal miscommunication, though I'd guess the latter.
Sorry to necro this, but I'd like to suggest being able to edit the text of your submission. I understand not being able to edit your card, but it would be cool if you could edit the description. It's very annoying to find out you wrote a card name incorrectly 😅
For some reason the whole swim controversy never came up to me (proably because I don't use twitter/twitch)
I am quite shocked reading what happened but then... the manipulative careless douche image fits him very well since he has been very arrogant for the entire time I knew him from videos.
thanks for making me aware tho... he deserved to have his career shut down
I think that 40H won't be an issue if we go again to token decks as the go-to agro option. Yes, you'll last for a few more turns, but one can't keep clearing boards every turn, at one point you can run out of removal. At least with most of the decks.
If they ever stop giving support to dumb me-go-face and leave those kind of cards as a finisher and not a whole deck based around these cards... 40 health won't be needed anymore in Standard. Until those cards leave standard, highness Renatahl will cover our backs.
I'm totally with you and I'm saying that as an Aggro player. The 40 Health option gives midrange decks a chance to survive long enough to take back control and that's great. As long as the meta doesn't turn into a combo clown fiesta, I'm super happy with the Prince.
Before anything, this is a serious thread, not for saltiness, and our opinions may differ. If that's the case, discuss it like an adult.
IMO, this game has fallen into a trap of face decks that are hard to counter and tend to turn the meta into a rock-paper-scissors, where if you are deck A and face deck B, you lose. Direct damage has little to no counter other than extreme healing/armoring or this. Extreme healing and endless armor are quite toxic and boring to the game. Increasing health is the only possible way (apart from deleting cards from existence, which'll never happen), plus, creating decks where that 40 cards restriction is in fact a good thing (Lady Prestor I'm looking at you lol) could be a good thing for creativity.
What do I think will happen in the end with 40 health? Agro decks will change to board/token decks, like old Zoos. And more midrange deck will start flourishing. Those agro decks can be countered in a more healthy way (board clears, building your own board, taunts), and are A LOT more punishing. There is very little punish to face and direct damage, as I said before. I'm tired of wanting to try some deck and losing to some random folk who doesn't even knows how to play his deck (due to his mistakes), but wins anyways. Game is no fun when the opponent ignores you and throws you spells and hits you in the face. Sure, those players may think "this is fun". But eventually they'll get tired and leave the game. And us, the ones who have been here since a long time, are the only ones punished.
Right now we're on the hype train, everything is 40 cards right now (fuck, even saw a quest pirate warrior which has 0 sense lol), but eventually this'll get fixed. Either now, or either with the next expansion and future ones.
That's what I think. What do you guys think? I really hope this is a response for fixing dumb face decks and in the near future they stop printing support for that, so we don't need 40 decks forever in Standard. Agro decks were a lot more fun when you had to be cautious about board clears and maximizing the value of everything so that every little boy counts, or use fancy combos. That's fun and interactive. Playing a weapon and dealing 4890352 damage in turn 4? Nope, that's not. At least for me.
So I wonder how many occurrences you want to trick your opponent and choose a legendary they won't expect? Guess it depends on how valuable each legendary minion is and how much it would cost you if you ending up giving said legendary to your opponent...
You'd think so, but you may want to have a look again which expansion packs the end of season rewards are actually showing. ;) Maybe the HS team pulled the wrong lever.
That said, there aren't many Voyage cards I'd want to recraft immediately (Shield Shatter at most for the current Warrior iterations).
Like for me I'll start believing Lor is heading in a good direction again when Swim starts playing and he hasn't touched the game since sundisc the last fun shakeup.
You living in a cave buddy? Swim quite streaming after it came into light that he was an abusive douche.
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Disappointed they aren't giving out Nathria packs. Would be one way to start building hype.
Murder at Castle Nathria
How does infuse work, exactly?
Hearthstone Rolls Out Patch 23.6.1 - Power Level of Arena Drafts Adjusted, Battlegrounds Armor & Minion Updates, Duels Unlocks, Various Hotfixes
Seems like someone in team5's mercs devs just loves his iteration of dopplegangsters that the nerf is pathetic. What exactly is this particular fight that's so valuable that a proper rebalancing cannot be done? You're still required to run specific mercs just so they dont kick your arse on the way to the boss. Funnily, even the boss fight is nothing in comparison with this bs.
Hearthstone Rolls Out Patch 23.6.1 - Power Level of Arena Drafts Adjusted, Battlegrounds Armor & Minion Updates, Duels Unlocks, Various Hotfixes
I agree, this small change doesn't solve the fundamental problems with this encounter:
Until the designers fix either of these problems, this whole encounter will remain the most danagerous one in the game.
Hearthstone Rolls Out Patch 23.6.1 - Power Level of Arena Drafts Adjusted, Battlegrounds Armor & Minion Updates, Duels Unlocks, Various Hotfixes
Indeed. Dopplegangster is more dangerous than actual Heroic bossfights and it's not interesting to playthrough and it can ruin lengthy runs. Blizz acknowledges that it made a design mistake by making this change but . . . doesn't fix anything. It's impossible to tell if this is trolling or incompetence due to internal miscommunication, though I'd guess the latter.
So This Patch Doesn't Do Anything?
Yeah, the whole situation was a shit show, like you said good riddance.
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Sorry to necro this, but I'd like to suggest being able to edit the text of your submission. I understand not being able to edit your card, but it would be cool if you could edit the description. It's very annoying to find out you wrote a card name incorrectly 😅
no patch notes?
thanks did just that yesterday
So This Patch Doesn't Do Anything?
I got to admit I have lived in a cave too.
For some reason the whole swim controversy never came up to me (proably because I don't use twitter/twitch)
I am quite shocked reading what happened but then... the manipulative careless douche image fits him very well since he has been very arrogant for the entire time I knew him from videos.
thanks for making me aware tho... he deserved to have his career shut down
IMO 40 Health is the best that happened
I think that 40H won't be an issue if we go again to token decks as the go-to agro option. Yes, you'll last for a few more turns, but one can't keep clearing boards every turn, at one point you can run out of removal. At least with most of the decks.
If they ever stop giving support to dumb me-go-face and leave those kind of cards as a finisher and not a whole deck based around these cards... 40 health won't be needed anymore in Standard. Until those cards leave standard, highness Renatahl will cover our backs.
Marvel Snap's Patch 2.0 is Live - Card Nerfs, Buffs, New Locations, & More!
It becomes clear why HS went into certain directions while brode was working on it.
Marvel Snap's Patch 2.0 is Live - Card Nerfs, Buffs, New Locations, & More!
I know it's a common typo, but this is what I thought when I read this:
"Oooh, what a cute dino! You're a strong dino; yes, you are! Who's the best dino? Who's the best dino?..."
;-)
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IMO 40 Health is the best that happened
I'm totally with you and I'm saying that as an Aggro player. The 40 Health option gives midrange decks a chance to survive long enough to take back control and that's great. As long as the meta doesn't turn into a combo clown fiesta, I'm super happy with the Prince.
IMO 40 Health is the best that happened
Before anything, this is a serious thread, not for saltiness, and our opinions may differ. If that's the case, discuss it like an adult.
IMO, this game has fallen into a trap of face decks that are hard to counter and tend to turn the meta into a rock-paper-scissors, where if you are deck A and face deck B, you lose. Direct damage has little to no counter other than extreme healing/armoring or this. Extreme healing and endless armor are quite toxic and boring to the game. Increasing health is the only possible way (apart from deleting cards from existence, which'll never happen), plus, creating decks where that 40 cards restriction is in fact a good thing (Lady Prestor I'm looking at you lol) could be a good thing for creativity.
What do I think will happen in the end with 40 health? Agro decks will change to board/token decks, like old Zoos. And more midrange deck will start flourishing. Those agro decks can be countered in a more healthy way (board clears, building your own board, taunts), and are A LOT more punishing. There is very little punish to face and direct damage, as I said before. I'm tired of wanting to try some deck and losing to some random folk who doesn't even knows how to play his deck (due to his mistakes), but wins anyways. Game is no fun when the opponent ignores you and throws you spells and hits you in the face. Sure, those players may think "this is fun". But eventually they'll get tired and leave the game. And us, the ones who have been here since a long time, are the only ones punished.
Right now we're on the hype train, everything is 40 cards right now (fuck, even saw a quest pirate warrior which has 0 sense lol), but eventually this'll get fixed. Either now, or either with the next expansion and future ones.
That's what I think. What do you guys think? I really hope this is a response for fixing dumb face decks and in the near future they stop printing support for that, so we don't need 40 decks forever in Standard. Agro decks were a lot more fun when you had to be cautious about board clears and maximizing the value of everything so that every little boy counts, or use fancy combos. That's fun and interactive. Playing a weapon and dealing 4890352 damage in turn 4? Nope, that's not. At least for me.
What is the best unit to have two of on the board?
Which ally gives you the most value when you have two of them in play? Follower or champion?
New Warrior Minion - Decimator Olgra
Your handbuff Warrior better be good.
New Priest Minion - Suspicious Usher
So I wonder how many occurrences you want to trick your opponent and choose a legendary they won't expect? Guess it depends on how valuable each legendary minion is and how much it would cost you if you ending up giving said legendary to your opponent...
New Warrior Minion - Decimator Olgra
FOUND HER! Not a bad effect but I do hope we get more damaging effects like Whirlwind coz relying on the location alone will be too slow
New Shaman Minion - Baroness Vashj
The Flavor text for Baroness Vashj is on point 🤣🤣
Marvel Snap's Patch 2.0 is Live - Card Nerfs, Buffs, New Locations, & More!
LMAO Ben.
no patch notes?
You can always view them in the games official website :
https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/game-updates/patch-3-10-0-notes/
no patch notes?
why out of cards didnt post the patch notes for runeterra? is the staff that does it sick or something?
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You'd think so, but you may want to have a look again which expansion packs the end of season rewards are actually showing. ;) Maybe the HS team pulled the wrong lever.
That said, there aren't many Voyage cards I'd want to recraft immediately (Shield Shatter at most for the current Warrior iterations).
So This Patch Doesn't Do Anything?
You living in a cave buddy? Swim quite streaming after it came into light that he was an abusive douche.