I don't understand this attitude that the only way a person can make up their mind about an issue is waiting for the justice system to prosecute it and bring it to trial. There is plenty of information out there, plenty of detailed accusations in the investigation by the State of CA. Yes, there might be a trial that adjudicates some kind of punishment or compensation (or maybe not, they could settle), but that doesn't stop you from reading and having an opinion.
This is a question I've been grappling with, and haven't really resolved yet. Particularly with a new expansion coming up, this seems like a moment where the fans can really make an impact and help support the cause of a just and equitable workplace for Blizzard employees.
I do not understand why this comment is at negative rating, they're concerned that Hearthstone may suddenly die over this controversy (although unlikely) and are worried that will effect the ability of outof.cards to stay online.
Who downvoted that?
Edit: Seeing my own comment here get a negative rating... just trolls being trolls I guess...
At this point you have to start asking those still loyal where the line is.
I found the line with the lawsuit and Blizzard's public reaction to it which was very disappointing that they denied it all when the lawsuit perfectly described the culture at Blizz still.
It's just quite amusing to see how they have to deal with the same Cancel culture actions that they have been applying to some players in the past.
The most recent I recall, is how they canceled Zalae from all HS championships without of any official court hearings or investigations. And now people cancel them (and Blizz even have to cancel themselves) just due to unproven accusations.
Of course, there is no smoke without fire. But I would rather wait for the official results of the investigation before judging.
Probably the best free skin that has been offered in a while (not counting the 1000 win, rewards track, or 200 levels skins). Plus I cracked 2 legendaries off of the free packs. Worth the slog!
Sigh... sites like these just frustrate the hell out of me 😓 the game doesn't load anymore and the offer page is just a black screen. I understand this is a big event, but they should have added some error handling to tell users there's problems loading some things, or at the very least "You have no offers available" would suffice.
Kinda disappointing. I agree that they could've given forewarning about the stream so that those invested in it would know not to make plans. Not the end of the world, but still, it's poor communication.
For what it's worth, I really dislike the streams and the "banter" that goes on with them (ditto with the announce videos) so would prefer a card dump.
What I'd really like to see is only like 20% of the cards before launch day, so that we can be surprised by all the new cards day 1.
Interesting card, seems interesting alongside tradeable cards and Auctioneer Jaxon. But im still not sure why you would play Final Showdown though. It seems like you probably want to use it for some kind of combo or OTK, but the only real OTK that DH has is Il'gynoth OTK. Not sure if that deck wants Final Showdown.
That being said, mana cheat is extremely powerful and often breaks the game... eventually. So even if it's not that good this expansion, just be careful because cards like these can become very powerfull/meta out of seemingly nowhere. (We havent seen all the DH cards yet. So maybe it gets some support. I hope it does.)
Demonslayer Kurtrus should have at least come with taunt or rush. If you are about to die, he is unplayable making the final reward even worse the longer he stays in your hand.
The point isn't that things are going weird because of an indeed much more serious matter.
The point is that they're being extremely unprofessional by literally not saying anything. It takes 1 minute to write a short message warning everyone about the cancellation, then 5 minutes to have it be greenlit by whoever must approve it, then another minute to upload it. I couldn't care less about the stream in and of itself, it's just about communicating decently.
I was not expecting them to go through with the live stream. The people presenting would be filleted by the chat to the point where the comment section would be one long list of "this comment has been removed". It'd be nice if we got a card dump instead so we could at least see the new cards. If not, I guess we'll find out on August 3.
the BG skins come tommorow, so should be pre pacth then with the cards ingame viewable but not craftable yet.
I agree with you that the sexual assault is way more serious, but this is a strange hill to die on. We can both be upset at Blizzard for the workplace envrionment, and for ghosting us. I know I am.
It's totally fine that they cancel the stream to show support to their fellow employees. What is not cool is giving the community false hope and cancelling the reveal at the last minute. The community is already on the edge after the recent events. Also, it sucks that there's no communication at all.
I'm hoping they just upload the cards to the online database for us to see. That would be fine for me but still, No communication = totally not cool.
in their defense, we have no clue what is going on behind the scenes at this point. There's a good chance they genuinely had no idea whether the stream was going to be greenlit or not. Let's not jump to conclusions and blame it on people who are subject to extremely chaotic circumstances and might be relying on higher-ups to continue operations.
I'm gonna assume they'll just reveal dump the rest at some point in the near future. I doubt they'll just delay it for no reason when there's very little chance of doing livestreams any time soon.
I support the focus on the lawsuit and terrible things that happened but was one simple statement "We're cancelling card reveals on our side until further notice" too much to ask? The fact that they cancelled the stream 30 minutes prior to it, same as they did with their twitter and instagram card reveals, is just pissing me off. Why act like its our fault? Just make a statement or something, nobody will flame you for that.
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
I don't understand this attitude that the only way a person can make up their mind about an issue is waiting for the justice system to prosecute it and bring it to trial. There is plenty of information out there, plenty of detailed accusations in the investigation by the State of CA. Yes, there might be a trial that adjudicates some kind of punishment or compensation (or maybe not, they could settle), but that doesn't stop you from reading and having an opinion.
Should Blizzard fans boycott Hearthstone?
This is a question I've been grappling with, and haven't really resolved yet. Particularly with a new expansion coming up, this seems like a moment where the fans can really make an impact and help support the cause of a just and equitable workplace for Blizzard employees.
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
I do not understand why this comment is at negative rating, they're concerned that Hearthstone may suddenly die over this controversy (although unlikely) and are worried that will effect the ability of outof.cards to stay online.
Who downvoted that?
Edit: Seeing my own comment here get a negative rating... just trolls being trolls I guess...
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
At this point you have to start asking those still loyal where the line is.
I found the line with the lawsuit and Blizzard's public reaction to it which was very disappointing that they denied it all when the lawsuit perfectly described the culture at Blizz still.
When is too much?
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
It's just quite amusing to see how they have to deal with the same Cancel culture actions that they have been applying to some players in the past.
The most recent I recall, is how they canceled Zalae from all HS championships without of any official court hearings or investigations. And now people cancel them (and Blizz even have to cancel themselves) just due to unproven accusations.
Of course, there is no smoke without fire. But I would rather wait for the official results of the investigation before judging.
Reminder: Time is Running Out to Finish the Fire Festival Legendary Quests for Druid of the Flame Malfurion
Probably the best free skin that has been offered in a while (not counting the 1000 win, rewards track, or 200 levels skins). Plus I cracked 2 legendaries off of the free packs. Worth the slog!
DreamHack Beyond Begins, 3 Hearthstone Tournaments Plus Free Forged in the Barrens Packs Available
Sigh... sites like these just frustrate the hell out of me 😓 the game doesn't load anymore and the offer page is just a black screen. I understand this is a big event, but they should have added some error handling to tell users there's problems loading some things, or at the very least "You have no offers available" would suffice.
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
Kinda disappointing. I agree that they could've given forewarning about the stream so that those invested in it would know not to make plans. Not the end of the world, but still, it's poor communication.
For what it's worth, I really dislike the streams and the "banter" that goes on with them (ditto with the announce videos) so would prefer a card dump.
What I'd really like to see is only like 20% of the cards before launch day, so that we can be surprised by all the new cards day 1.
New Demon Hunter Spell - Final Showdown
Interesting card, seems interesting alongside tradeable cards and Auctioneer Jaxon. But im still not sure why you would play Final Showdown though. It seems like you probably want to use it for some kind of combo or OTK, but the only real OTK that DH has is Il'gynoth OTK. Not sure if that deck wants Final Showdown.
That being said, mana cheat is extremely powerful and often breaks the game... eventually. So even if it's not that good this expansion, just be careful because cards like these can become very powerfull/meta out of seemingly nowhere. (We havent seen all the DH cards yet. So maybe it gets some support. I hope it does.)
DreamHack Beyond Begins, 3 Hearthstone Tournaments Plus Free Forged in the Barrens Packs Available
I only receive this error: "Hmm, something went wrong, but we're not really sure what it was."
And the dialogue with the goblin:
- I don't have any more packs today
- Will you have more packs tomorrow?
- I'm waiting from a shipment from Gadgetzan, so let's hope so!
Sorcerer's Gambit
My suggestion for trying to turn a disappointing reward into a reward worthy of a hard-to-complete Legendary Questline:
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
I hope Runeterra and Magic bring in the same revenue to this site that Hearthstone did.
New Demon Hunter Card Revealed for United in Stormwind by Thijs - Final Showdown
How does he know the Dev team and "good people" at Blizz weren't the ones committing the sexual harassment?
New Demon Hunter Spell - Final Showdown
Demonslayer Kurtrus should have at least come with taunt or rush. If you are about to die, he is unplayable making the final reward even worse the longer he stays in your hand.
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
The point isn't that things are going weird because of an indeed much more serious matter.
The point is that they're being extremely unprofessional by literally not saying anything. It takes 1 minute to write a short message warning everyone about the cancellation, then 5 minutes to have it be greenlit by whoever must approve it, then another minute to upload it. I couldn't care less about the stream in and of itself, it's just about communicating decently.
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
the BG skins come tommorow, so should be pre pacth then with the cards ingame viewable but not craftable yet.
The Worst Champions (Burst Meta)
Seems fun, Ibex for sure is a very strong card, totally under-rated
Final Showdown
I surrender, I have no idea how to fix this...
New Demon Hunter Card Revealed for United in Stormwind by Thijs - Final Showdown
I surrender, I have no idea how to fix this...
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
I agree with you that the sexual assault is way more serious, but this is a strange hill to die on. We can both be upset at Blizzard for the workplace envrionment, and for ghosting us. I know I am.
New Rogue Card Revealed for United in Stormwind by SnowKiss - Sketchy Information
The player will go dormant!
No, seriously I don't know.
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
It's totally fine that they cancel the stream to show support to their fellow employees. What is not cool is giving the community false hope and cancelling the reveal at the last minute. The community is already on the edge after the recent events. Also, it sucks that there's no communication at all.
I'm hoping they just upload the cards to the online database for us to see. That would be fine for me but still, No communication = totally not cool.
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
in their defense, we have no clue what is going on behind the scenes at this point. There's a good chance they genuinely had no idea whether the stream was going to be greenlit or not. Let's not jump to conclusions and blame it on people who are subject to extremely chaotic circumstances and might be relying on higher-ups to continue operations.
I'm gonna assume they'll just reveal dump the rest at some point in the near future. I doubt they'll just delay it for no reason when there's very little chance of doing livestreams any time soon.
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
So they could have canceld this FIVE days ago and not 30 minutes before start.
Blizzard Has Removed the United in Stormwind Final Live Stream From the Official Hearthstone Site
I support the focus on the lawsuit and terrible things that happened but was one simple statement "We're cancelling card reveals on our side until further notice" too much to ask? The fact that they cancelled the stream 30 minutes prior to it, same as they did with their twitter and instagram card reveals, is just pissing me off. Why act like its our fault? Just make a statement or something, nobody will flame you for that.