8 mana is a lot. A huge part of why Spiteful Summoner was good was that it came out mid-game, while this comes out late-game. I still think it's pretty good, but I don't think it's going to be meta defining. Probly best in Druid.
Its a very powerful effect. If secrets are worth playing then this guy will easily empower them. Its just a matter of how easy it is to get this down alongside several secrets. Even 1 isn't the worst though, and if you get 2 or 3 then you've made an insane play. Not sure if this is good enough to be played as a turn 8 move alongside a bunch of secrets though. I think it needs to be more natural than that.
I definitely agree with the speculation. We've also already seen fadeleaf in the game through Xaril, Poisoned Mind and his Fadeleaf Toxin which soft-confirms the Stealth card imo.
We'll have the guide updated as soon as we can get proper confirmations. I hope people see this comment in the meantime!
The effect is innovative but I'm struggling to understand how and when you'd play it, although I chalk this up to the fact that it presents such a novel way to play Secret/Token Pally. I can already feel the mind-melt of remembering which Soldier was which secret and what the optimal removal order should be.
I mean it could be strong. It tutors for an important card so there is that. If it does see play, with the current selection of spells it is most likely to be in Druid....and I will hate it I'm sure if that happens.
I wonder if the caster will know which Secret is attached to which 3/3? If so, it can make it easier to get the secret back you want and maybe delay another one...
Obviously, this really depends on the quality of the secret pool, but it also depends on how many secrets Paladin can get into play at once. If there were a Mysterious Challenger or Subject 9 in the meta, we'd be talking, but we don't really have anything, even Desperate Measures is rotating out, so you'll be relying on drawing them the old-fashioned way. Paladin has traditionally hated playing secrets without a way to tutor them, since drawing a 1-cost no-impact spell is usually awful, so I don't think the deck is going to work.
I mean I like the card, and I can see it being played. Its a pretty solid effect considering that its such a small requirement. I'm sure there are a few classes that lack any key 4 mana cards that could just slip this in. Even if they do have a few this card isn't one you will usually be in that big a hurry to get down since its purely a value tool. You can likely hold off till you've drawn those 4 mana cards you need to run.
New Neutral Minion - Primordial Protector
8 mana is a lot. A huge part of why Spiteful Summoner was good was that it came out mid-game, while this comes out late-game. I still think it's pretty good, but I don't think it's going to be meta defining. Probly best in Druid.
New Paladin Minion - Cannonmaster Smythe
Its a very powerful effect. If secrets are worth playing then this guy will easily empower them. Its just a matter of how easy it is to get this down alongside several secrets. Even 1 isn't the worst though, and if you get 2 or 3 then you've made an insane play. Not sure if this is good enough to be played as a turn 8 move alongside a bunch of secrets though. I think it needs to be more natural than that.
How Forged in the Barrens' Kazakus, Golem Shaper's Custom Golems Work
I definitely agree with the speculation. We've also already seen fadeleaf in the game through Xaril, Poisoned Mind and his Fadeleaf Toxin which soft-confirms the Stealth card imo.
We'll have the guide updated as soon as we can get proper confirmations. I hope people see this comment in the meantime!
Kripparrian Reveals a New Forged in the Barrens Paladin Legendary - Cannonmaster Smythe
more a question of "when" I think, and the answer is Day 1 of the new expa
How Forged in the Barrens' Kazakus, Golem Shaper's Custom Golems Work
Maybe frenzy refresh (x) mana? Ingame wildvine potions apparently restore health and mana over time so I'm seeing health or mana being linked to it
New Paladin Minion - Cannonmaster Smythe
The effect is innovative but I'm struggling to understand how and when you'd play it, although I chalk this up to the fact that it presents such a novel way to play Secret/Token Pally. I can already feel the mind-melt of remembering which Soldier was which secret and what the optimal removal order should be.
Kripparrian Reveals a New Forged in the Barrens Paladin Legendary - Cannonmaster Smythe
holy smokes. it's Christmas season all over again. hope we get some good secrets in the set
Primordial Protector
very strong card
New Neutral Minion - Kazakus, Golem Shaper
do we know what is a golem?
New Paladin Minion - Cannonmaster Smythe
will the secret disclosed or they remain "secret" ?
New Paladin Minion - Cannonmaster Smythe
Wow what a unexpected effect. Turning secrets into minions that turn back. Not sure how good it will be but I love the effect.
New Neutral Minion - Primordial Protector
I mean it could be strong. It tutors for an important card so there is that. If it does see play, with the current selection of spells it is most likely to be in Druid....and I will hate it I'm sure if that happens.
Kripparrian Reveals a New Forged in the Barrens Paladin Legendary - Cannonmaster Smythe
will the secret disclosed or they remain "secret" ?
Kripparrian Reveals a New Forged in the Barrens Paladin Legendary - Cannonmaster Smythe
Not sure how good will be, but will be incredbly annoying to clear though
Kripparrian Reveals a New Forged in the Barrens Paladin Legendary - Cannonmaster Smythe
I wonder if the caster will know which Secret is attached to which 3/3? If so, it can make it easier to get the secret back you want and maybe delay another one...
Kripparrian Reveals a New Forged in the Barrens Paladin Legendary - Cannonmaster Smythe
Obviously, this really depends on the quality of the secret pool, but it also depends on how many secrets Paladin can get into play at once. If there were a Mysterious Challenger or Subject 9 in the meta, we'd be talking, but we don't really have anything, even Desperate Measures is rotating out, so you'll be relying on drawing them the old-fashioned way. Paladin has traditionally hated playing secrets without a way to tutor them, since drawing a 1-cost no-impact spell is usually awful, so I don't think the deck is going to work.
New Paladin Minion - Cannonmaster Smythe
So secret pally is a thing?
New Paladin Minion - Cannonmaster Smythe
Now this is a card that i will love to play a lot even if its not that good .Love the effect love the art .
How Forged in the Barrens' Kazakus, Golem Shaper's Custom Golems Work
This idea fits with the item in wow, but from a balance and design pov I'm not sure on it
How Forged in the Barrens' Kazakus, Golem Shaper's Custom Golems Work
I would guess they are more of a magical type such as Arcane Golem rather than an Earth Elemental.
New Neutral Minion - Kazakus, Golem Shaper
I mean I like the card, and I can see it being played. Its a pretty solid effect considering that its such a small requirement. I'm sure there are a few classes that lack any key 4 mana cards that could just slip this in. Even if they do have a few this card isn't one you will usually be in that big a hurry to get down since its purely a value tool. You can likely hold off till you've drawn those 4 mana cards you need to run.
Kripparrian Reveals a New Forged in the Barrens Paladin Legendary - Cannonmaster Smythe
This card hurts my brain a little bit. Will be interesting to see how/if it can be abused.
New Neutral Minion - Kazakus, Golem Shaper
It's not gonna be in every deck, but a lot of decks will make room for this.
New Paladin Minion - Cannonmaster Smythe
If secret paladin will get back, this one will carry it. Nice mechanic.
New Paladin Minion - Cannonmaster Smythe
With the return of one of the best Paladin secrets - Avenge, Secret Paladin might actually become a thing. This card increases the potential by a lot.